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Brettus 10-26-2015 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Harlan (Post 4698039)
It could be for several reasons. The center port could have more flow in total, or it could just be more turbulent flow, or it could have more total contact time.

I think it has more to do with contact time. A cooler sustained torch flame for example will heat metal much faster than a hotter flame which is only on the metal half the time. Even at higher flow rates the exhaust temperature isn't any hotter, it just has a bit more turbulence from the higher flow. 6ms doesn't seem like a lot of time, but that's per revolution, if you think about it like a percentage it makes a lot more sense.

Just saw this which illustrates what i was taking about erlier in the thread . Speedsource renesis dyno .

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...f74130c1b1.png

9krpmrx8 10-26-2015 04:58 PM

Good video, I watched that today.

Question, Brettus, do you have screens in your intake?

Brettus 10-26-2015 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4724949)
Good video, I watched that today.

Question, Brettus, do you have screens in your intake?

I toyed around with different setups for years . These days I run a honeycomb maf straightener . Seems to be the most reliable .

9krpmrx8 10-27-2015 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4724963)
I toyed around with different setups for years . These days I run a honeycomb maf straightener . Seems to be the most reliable .


Cool, I was just curious. I run the honeycomb as well as a screen (AEM screen) further up from it. It has been working well but recently the screen got sucked in a bit and my car ran like shit. I am planning on removing it but will need the tune adjusted when I do that so it will have to wait.

wankinit 10-27-2015 11:22 AM

Well good luck with everything Brutus, your journey has been very interesting. Im glad to see you fit a gt35 in the low mount.
My turbo guy is trying to shoehorn a gt35 in the low mount position as well, but he may change his mind. I don't think there is an easy way out for him on this one lol.

Brettus 10-27-2015 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by wankinit (Post 4725118)
Well good luck with everything Brutus, your journey has been very interesting. Im glad to see you fit a gt35 in the low mount.
My turbo guy is trying to shoehorn a gt35 in the low mount position as well, but he may change his mind. I don't think there is an easy way out for him on this one lol.

Get him to fit the To4B compressor housing and try again .

Brettus 10-27-2015 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4725097)
Cool, I was just curious. I run the honeycomb as well as a screen (AEM screen) further up from it. It has been working well but recently the screen got sucked in a bit and my car ran like shit. I am planning on removing it but will need the tune adjusted when I do that so it will have to wait.

I gave up on screens even before I fitted my first turbo for that very reason.

wankinit 10-27-2015 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4725266)
Get him to fit the To4B compressor housing and try again .

:banghead:

Brettus 10-27-2015 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by wankinit (Post 4725328)
:banghead:

Too late ?

wankinit 10-27-2015 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4725336)
Too late ?

No, I don't want to high jack your thread. I'll get into more detail when I start my build thread. But basically plan A (right on the manifold) is out the window, he's gonna discuss other options with me tomorrow. I just know this build is gonna get "ugly fast"
....... Hopefully my car will be ugly fast too. :fingersx:

Harlan 10-27-2015 07:22 PM

9K, this is what I'm running and it's been excellent.
3 5 OD MAF Housing Air Straightener for Subaru 08 Honda Toyota Lexus 89mm OD | eBay
Also not too pricey.

logalinipoo 10-27-2015 07:29 PM

I went with the treadstone one.

9krpmrx8 10-28-2015 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by Harlan (Post 4725480)
9K, this is what I'm running and it's been excellent.
3 5 OD MAF Housing Air Straightener for Subaru 08 Honda Toyota Lexus 89mm OD | eBay
Also not too pricey.


Yeah my custom CAI is made using a housing with a honeycomb from MRP. I just had them make one with the exact ID specs and length I needed.

It just blows me away how sensitive it is, no other MAF car i have owned was that sensitive to changes. But I got the new lower profile filter in and installed it today and it's fine.

logalinipoo 11-04-2015 02:18 PM

Hey brett, what boost control Solenoid are you running. The Mac 45 or 46? Are you still liking it? no problems with small increases in duty cycle making big increases in boost?

Brettus 11-04-2015 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4727161)
Hey brett, what boost control Solenoid are you running. The Mac 45 or 46? Are you still liking it? no problems with small increases in duty cycle making big increases in boost?

It's a 46 ..... It works great and I have exceptional boost control . Not really sure how much the 4 port contributes to that as it's all i've run on this setup .

To get 2 psi increase in boost i need to add 5% to duty cycle ...................

logalinipoo 11-11-2015 04:13 AM

ok another note about the boost controller. They seam like you set the hertz, duty cycle, and the pressure they start working the solenoid at. I realize some of them have a over boost cutoff that defaults to the waste gate spring if it's over boosting.

Does it have a target boost and actively try to achieve that boost?

Does it just boost to whatever level you have the solenoid set as long as it's below the over boost level?

Brettus 11-11-2015 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4728228)

Does it have a target boost and actively try to achieve that boost?

No


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4728228)

Does it just boost to whatever level you have the solenoid set as long as it's below the over boost level?

yes

Brettus 12-05-2015 04:41 PM

Small update :
Engine is finally going back together this week . The hold up was in waiting for the US supplier of the solid corner seals . I gave up on that and decided to just modify the stock Renesis corner seals . A friend in the UK tells me this has been done over there with some success .
Also planning to port the two end exhaust ports (leaving the Siamese alone) to try improve spoolup .
Hope to be back on the road by next week .

JimmyBlack 12-06-2015 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4732434)
Small update :
Engine is finally going back together this week . The hold up was in waiting for the US supplier of the solid corner seals . I gave up on that and decided to just modify the stock Renesis corner seals . A friend in the UK tells me this has been done over there with some success .
Also planning to port the two end exhaust ports (leaving the Siamese alone) to try improve spoolup .
Hope to be back on the road by next week .

How about a road trip to my hood next week? The one way trip is a perfect distance for run in before cranking it up to 400whp :naughty:

skc 12-08-2015 12:41 AM

Look forward to further updates. shame about the solid corner seals

Brettus 12-11-2015 02:08 AM

Making some progress . Just mock fitting turbo setup to engine and making a few minor improvements as I go.
Added a heat shield below the turbo and changed the water piping to try improve siphoning as it was glugging a lot.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...f6cdb33903.jpg

JimmyBlack 12-11-2015 06:51 PM

This pic really highlights the time and skill required to fit it all into such a small space while maintaining the smooth flow in the primaries and collector.

Did the turbo guys check the balance when you sent the turbo unit back? Could contribute to bad spool.

Brettus 12-12-2015 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by JimmyBlack (Post 4733615)
This pic really highlights the time and skill required to fit it all into such a small space while maintaining the smooth flow in the primaries and collector.

Did the turbo guys check the balance when you sent the turbo unit back? Could contribute to bad spool.

nope ..........

Brettus 12-17-2015 02:28 AM

She Runs !!!




https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...5114a64f0b.jpg

Earlier photo showing how close the turbo is to the engine plus my new carbon Kevlar clutch:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...9b5256ddd0.jpg

Brettus 12-17-2015 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4733492)
changed the water piping to try improve siphoning as it was glugging a lot.

This seems to have worked .... the loud glugging after engine shutdown has gone and now I just hear a swishing noise so I think the turbo water is siphoning perfectly now .


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