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slash128 02-10-2016 11:44 PM

You should call the new one....

Muffy the Backpressure Slayer...

In case it didn't reach down unda here's the reference:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buff..._Slayer_(film)

Nice work :)

Brettus 02-11-2016 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by slash128 (Post 4744371)
You should call the new one....

Muffy the Backpressure Slayer...

Nice work :)

:rollingla


Was wondering how long it would be before some picked up on that .

Brettus 02-11-2016 02:46 PM

Went for a drive last night via all the underpasses in town ...hehe
Loving the sound !

Williard 02-11-2016 02:48 PM

Well,

Now all you have to do is make a replica of your manifold, a more in depth description/picture etc of the sleeve mod, and ship it all to me. :)

Travis

Brettus 02-11-2016 10:31 PM

That's not going to happen ...... unless of course you pay me ................

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...AF&FORM=VRDGAR

Brettus 02-12-2016 02:57 PM

Dyno is booked .................. E50 or pump gas ?

slash128 02-12-2016 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4744722)
Dyno is booked .................. E50 or pump gas ?

I say go for what you are tuned for now. If you change you'll likely need to spend some time dialing it in. I have found it's not just scale the injectors and go but there is a bit to be gained playing with leaner AFR and timing...

logalinipoo 02-12-2016 07:26 PM

Both 2 dyno days

slash128 02-12-2016 11:28 PM

Bee tee dubs love the hashtags!

#Allhailtherenesis
#Longlivetherenesis

Williard 02-12-2016 11:43 PM

:squint:

Originally Posted by slash128 (Post 4744773)
Bee tee dubs love the hashtags!

#Allhailtherenesis
#Longlivetherenesis

:scratchhe: huh

yomomspimp06 02-13-2016 01:36 AM

^ Bee tee dubs= By the Way

He's referring to Brett's sig

Brettus 02-13-2016 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by slash128 (Post 4744734)
I say go for what you are tuned for now. If you change you'll likely need to spend some time dialing it in. I have found it's not just scale the injectors and go but there is a bit to be gained playing with leaner AFR and timing...

It's 3 weeks away so have plenty of time to dial in an E50 tune . I was just thinking about what is relevant to the forum . Perhaps stick to pump gas for now then look into E50 dyno another time.

slash128 02-13-2016 05:59 PM

Sounds like a plan... Doing both will give you a good comparison :)

Once I get my clutch sorted I plan on another dyno on E50...

Brettus 02-13-2016 10:02 PM

New muffler vs 1st attempt . Getting rid of the tight rad. has paid dividends :
New:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...41657d4d51.jpg


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...4b124aeebf.jpg

9krpmrx8 02-13-2016 10:11 PM

Nice man, it looks very functional.

AAaF 02-15-2016 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4744838)
It's 3 weeks away so have plenty of time to dial in an E50 tune . I was just thinking about what is relevant to the forum . Perhaps stick to pump gas for now then look into E50 dyno another time.

For the forum, I agree. Fantastic sharing, Brett!

Brettus 02-18-2016 03:18 PM

Finally brought it up to 16psi (on E15)
Torque hovering at 300lb/ft
Rear scroll backpressure is up to 27.5psi @ 8000rpm


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...7206b27bd2.jpg

slash128 02-18-2016 04:19 PM

Looking real good!!! Can't wait to see official dyno :)

Fickert 02-18-2016 05:36 PM

I have been hovering this thread for a while and I am so excited to see the results of this! It looks so promising!

Brettus 02-19-2016 02:05 AM

Swapped the pressure guage over to front scroll today .................



Original exhaust @12.5psi

.................Front scroll ..........rear scroll..........
3000..................5........................4.. ...........
4000.................11.......................9... ............
5000.................14......................13... ...........
6000.................18......................17... ..........
7000.................24......................22... ..........
8000.................30......................27... ................

New exhaust @16psi

3000.................4.........................4
4000.................11.......................9
5000.................16......................15
6000.................19......................18.5
7000.................24......................23.5
8000.................29......................27.5

Looks like the difference between scrolls is less at higher flows as i had hoped.

AAaF 02-19-2016 08:02 AM

Must say I'm surprised by how high back pressure are. I dont know why, but I had guessed it would have been lower. Kind of makes sense with quite a lot pressure when 40-60Hp is required to drive the compressor.

Brettus 02-19-2016 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by AAaF (Post 4745922)
Must say I'm surprised by how high back pressure are. I dont know why, but I had guessed it would have been lower. Kind of makes sense with quite a lot pressure when 40-60Hp is required to drive the compressor.

Yeah , it's given me more understanding of why it's so difficult to make much power on these engines . I hate to think how much there was in my old Greddy setup while pushing similar boost ..... probably over 50psi.

Corky Bell has this to say about it :


It is this writer's opinion that a good street turbo system will show the ratio of TIP to IMP t.o be approximntely 2. If a ratio of greater than 2 exists, the turbo is too small and is choking the system down and not permitting much power gain. If the ratio is less than 2, often the boost theshold will be higher than desireable for commuter Car use. This situation is offset by t.he fact that as the ratio comes down power goes up.
As my setup has a ratio of less than 2 (and good response) it would seem it's quite acceptable for a street setup.

slash128 02-19-2016 06:47 PM

Forgive my lack of knowledge here, but to clarify "TIP to IMP" = Turbo Inlet Pressure/Intake Manifold Pressure or ...?

Brettus 02-19-2016 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by slash128 (Post 4746081)
Forgive my lack of knowledge here, but to clarify "TIP to IMP" = Turbo Inlet Pressure/Intake Manifold Pressure or ...?

TIP=turbine inlet pressure
IMP= Intake manifold pressure

TIP is not just telling if turbo is right size but also if your entire system is ok .This is why I've been comparing mine against the matchbot numbers . Even though mine is not a BW turbine , I've been able to match it up with one on their chaarts and see where the other weaknesses are on my setup. Would be great if you could look at yours for comparison :)

slash128 02-19-2016 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4746083)
TIP=turbine inlet pressure
IMP= Intake manifold pressure

turbo/turbine same dif :p:

Kidding, thanks for clarifying :)


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