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slash128 03-22-2016 08:21 PM

Figured that's why you were getting your wife to measure it :lol:

JimmyBlack 03-22-2016 09:33 PM

The wife already gets more than the car :yelrotflm

Brettus 03-22-2016 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by JimmyBlack (Post 4751999)
I've got the standard Greddy 60mm suction pipe. My turbo inlet is 83mm, so I'm going to try squeezing an 83mm silicone pipe in there. Will finish dialling in injectors before playing with this though.

Word to the wise, don't search ebay for "80mm silicone" on your work PC. Whole different product range.

Searches for "80mm silicone" suddenly go up 50% !

It will need to be wire reinforced BTW ....

slash128 03-22-2016 11:08 PM

Oh me oh my, send dem pics to my phone GPOY... Wait, not that subject matter....

AAaF 03-23-2016 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4749238)
Pretty disappointed . It basically 'hit the wall' at 400.

"Buhuu, poor me, I only have 400WHP"

Wanker.

If I posted a selfie right now, envy would have gotten a face... :tear:

AAaF 03-23-2016 04:01 AM

Regarding inlet tube, is it a option to make it square at the tightest places, then interpolate back to circular at compressor inlet?

logalinipoo 03-23-2016 04:27 AM

I think it'd be okay as long as it's significant size and not near the maf sensor

Brettus 03-24-2016 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by AAaF (Post 4752050)
"Buhuu, poor me, I only have 400WHP"

Wanker.

If I posted a selfie right now, envy would have gotten a face... :tear:

haha ................ well I don't really have 400whp .........because there is no way I can safely run it at that level with my current intake .
With new intake ............. watch this space.

The new tube will have to go oval to fit ..... shouldn't be an issue .

Brettus 03-29-2016 04:36 PM

Tried the new tube with the turbo as is and found no difference .... Gunna have to do the bobbit thing !

slash128 03-29-2016 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4753224)
Tried the new tube with the turbo as is and found no difference .... Gunna have to do the bobbit thing !


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...d24d8dfc6.jpeg

JimmyBlack 03-29-2016 11:19 PM

That was not necessary!

(side note: definitely looks to be less than 80mm)

Brettus 03-29-2016 11:31 PM

Oh dear .... unfortunately,what has been seen cannot be unseen !


9krpmrx8 03-30-2016 12:10 AM

:lol:

slash128 03-30-2016 12:16 AM

Dammit 9k I was just about to :lol:!

JinkoMK 03-30-2016 09:20 PM

Brettus, if you didn't have to worry about the driver's side engine mount and got rid of it completely would you be able to fit a larger turbo? Or has your fabricator worked around it so well that it wouldn't make a difference?

Just like REW swaps, a mount can be made to mount the engine onto the cross member instead of the standard ones. It will be expensive though.

Brettus 03-30-2016 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by JinkoMK (Post 4753406)
Brettus, if you didn't have to worry about the driver's side engine mount and got rid of it completely would you be able to fit a larger turbo? Or has your fabricator worked around it so well that it wouldn't make a difference?

Just like REW swaps, a mount can be made to mount the engine onto the cross member instead of the standard ones. It will be expensive though.

That would certainly have made a difference .... The other big obstacle for us was the steering rod and rack . Without both of those things in the way ..... i would say yes . Even then i think an EFR size would still be a struggle though.

Brettus 05-11-2016 04:54 PM

Quick update :
Had a bit of a setback .... siamese sleeve melted and went through the turbine . :(
So rather than buy a new turbo core I found the parts (yes -Chinese knockoff) i needed on line .Got a turbo specialist to put the turbo together but he couldn't balance it on his balancer due to the design of the shaft . Was a bit dubious about doing it but went ahead anyway .
I slapped it all together fully expecting it to fall apart straight away .
It didn't ..well so far anyway .
So since getting that done I've been experimenting and finally figured out the real reason it hit the wall at 400.
Despite my "muffy the backpressure slayer" exhaust ...it's still is too restrictive .
Once it gets up to 16+ psi the backpressure is sufficient to stop the recirced wastegate from doing it's job and It starts to boost creep.
So armed with this knowledge i plan to make a few changes and head back to the dyno.

Williard 05-11-2016 06:27 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...11c8a3c626.gif

Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4760568)
Quick update :
Had a bit of a setback .... siamese sleeve melted and went through the turbine . :(
So rather than buy a new turbo core I found the parts (yes -Chinese knockoff) i needed on line .Got a turbo specialist to put the turbo together but he couldn't balance it on his balancer due to the design of the shaft . Was a bit dubious about doing it but went ahead anyway .
I slapped it all together fully expecting it to fall apart straight away .
It didn't ..well so far anyway .
So since getting that done I've been experimenting and finally figured out the real reason it hit the wall at 400.
Despite my "muffy the backpressure slayer" exhaust ...it's still is too restrictive .
Once it gets up to 16+ psi the backpressure is sufficient to stop the recirced wastegate from doing it's job and It starts to boost creep.
So armed with this knowledge i plan to make a few changes and head back to the dyno.


BigBadChris 05-11-2016 06:33 PM

RIP, little turbine. You did your best

Brettus 05-29-2016 10:08 PM

This little monkey will be going in end of week :

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...bde086b548.jpg

Brettus 06-06-2016 03:24 PM

So ......I now have a two stage exhaust system . First stage is nice an d quiet for general cruising , secondstage is when wastegate opens and things get ..........loud.
Main exhaust on left , wastegate on right.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...bfbc4c75a4.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...e066b89493.jpg

yomomspimp06 06-06-2016 07:29 PM

this, I have to hear. just a theory, but I feel as if you're still leaving a little bit of power on the table with so much piping. it is, of course, much quieter this way as opposed to a direct dump below the car. In for vids!

Brettus 06-06-2016 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by yomomspimp06 (Post 4764558)
this, I have to hear. just a theory, but I feel as if you're still leaving a little bit of power on the table with so much piping. it is, of course, much quieter this way as opposed to a direct dump below the car. In for vids!

Ever heard a race v8 engine on launch control ? Kinda sounds like that .

No power loss at all because all it has to do is be free flowing enough to prevent boost creep . I lost about 5psi in turbine backpressure doing this . Doesn't matter if all the extra pipework is there or not ...reduction in backpressure is the same.

JimmyBlack 06-06-2016 08:53 PM

Piping looks good. Adrenalin R resonator?

Assuming all gains from this improvement were in the mid-high rpms?

BigBadChris 06-06-2016 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4764564)
Ever heard a race v8 engine on launch control ? Kinda sounds like that .

No power loss at all because all it has to do is be free flowing enough to prevent boost creep . I lost about 5psi in turbine backpressure doing this . Doesn't matter if all the extra pipework is there or not ...reduction in backpressure is the same.

I think we need a sample!


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