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JimmyBlack 07-18-2016 09:58 PM

I did a preliminary test and there's barely any change from previous turbo. I want to get the boost pressure profile to match a bit more closely with previous results before I post a comparison. It's been pretty hectic, but this is definitely still on the to-do list.

Brettus 07-22-2016 11:53 AM

Out with the old , in with the new :

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...74686bfd1e.jpg

Approximations For reference:

For every 1mm of compressor inducer diameter - 100rpm slower spool
For each step in turbine AR (0.63 to 0.82) - 250rpm slower spoll
Single scroll vs twin scroll - 500rpm slower spool
My manifold twinscroll vs single - approx. 300rpm

Jedi54 07-22-2016 12:48 PM

Brettus always has all the fun toys.

yomomspimp06 07-22-2016 01:05 PM

which wheels are those?

Brettus 07-22-2016 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by yomomspimp06 (Post 4772786)
which wheels are those?

Bottom is the GT3582 wheel that came with the turbo . Top is a GTX3576 copy that I bought off ebay .
My frankenturbo will now have Garrett housings , Kinugawa turbine, Onehunglo bearings and Mambatek compressor.

Brettus 07-22-2016 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 4772769)
Brettus always has all the fun toys.

If only ......... I have a handbrake that prevents such things.

JimmyBlack 07-22-2016 06:06 PM

GTX yo! Looking forward to seeing whether this changes performance much.

Brettus 07-22-2016 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by JimmyBlack (Post 4772841)
GTX yo! Looking forward to seeing whether this changes performance much.

me too ...fingers crossed !

Brettus 07-24-2016 11:58 PM

So we are up and running again .
The good news :
*more power right through the rev range (due to going back to 1.01AR ) . Losing traction again in 2nd now.
*Pulled 460g/s .....highest i've ever seen !
*exhaust actually sounds better .... lost most of that pulsing it had when the 2nd stage kicked in.

The bad :
spoolup is freakin identical !!!! FFS WTF !!!!!Borrowing Jimmy's parrot here ...............


Before anyone says it's due to the larger AR turbine housing . Spool was the same as this with old wheel and 1.01 as well .
I'm thinking it's a housing clearance issue . This wheel had much larger clearances than the other one .

9krpmrx8 07-25-2016 12:02 AM

Link doesn't work.

Brettus 07-25-2016 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4773080)
Link doesn't work.

fixed ...i'm sure you've seen it already though....

Brettus 07-25-2016 02:55 PM

Clearance is around 0.8mm which seems like too much to me . The old wheel was 0.45mm which seems normal.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...a3e4d148f7.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...15bfbe1c41.jpg

Brettus 07-26-2016 12:21 AM

accidentally deleted turbine backpressure data .... Bugger !

yomomspimp06 07-26-2016 02:16 AM

looking good

TomD_Cincy 07-26-2016 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4773244)
Clearance is around 0.8mm which seems like too much to me . The old wheel was 0.45mm which seems normal.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...a3e4d148f7.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...15bfbe1c41.jpg


So I have zero experience with turbos but I do work in aerospace and most of the compressor aero guys I work with would sell their souls to get clearances .35 mm tighter. Granted that's on engines for commercial aircraft. But unless it needs the more open clearance to keep the wheel from rubbing the housing, seems like some performance is being left on the table.

Brettus 07-26-2016 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by TomD_Cincy (Post 4773469)
So I have zero experience with turbos but I do work in aerospace and most of the compressor aero guys I work with would sell their souls to get clearances .35 mm tighter. Granted that's on engines for commercial aircraft. But unless it needs the more open clearance to keep the wheel from rubbing the housing, seems like some performance is being left on the table.

Agree 100% . I actually emailed the suppliers and they told me they allow extra clearance on non standard covers to be on the safe side. So I wont be doing it that way again !

sinkas 07-26-2016 09:04 PM

Yeh that seems like a lot of clearance for a compressor

Brettus 07-26-2016 09:41 PM

Gunna try this turbo next . Should see huge improvements !

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...4b668ce964.jpg

yomomspimp06 07-26-2016 10:53 PM

^ looks like it moves some air lol

Brettus 07-26-2016 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by yomomspimp06 (Post 4773505)
^ looks like it moves some air lol

I'm excited about having no bearing losses !:hahano:

slash128 07-26-2016 10:59 PM

Go Brettus Go!!!

Brettus 07-27-2016 04:34 PM

After upgrading the injectors to blue/uncapped yellow/uncapped yellow and switching to E50 , I have now run out of fuel again at 460g/s .


Happily this is about the limit of the turbo and the modified maf setup as well so probably wont be taking it any higher than this.

Williard 07-27-2016 04:53 PM

Zoom Zoom, No boom! WOO!


Travis

yomomspimp06 07-27-2016 08:08 PM

throw up a VD so I can look on in amazement

Brettus 07-27-2016 10:11 PM

Running out of places to do a 3rd gear log ..... here is one in 2nd . Doesn't seem that wonderful ....but I've never seen such a good result in 2nd before.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...aed8d16da3.jpg


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