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TeamRX8 01-08-2022 09:16 PM

didn’t want to pollute your turbo thread; I agree with your feeling about not choosing Pulsar/copy-cat turbos over Garrett, but it is worthy to note that according to Pulsar their turbine housings are directly interchangeable with Garrett and for someone considering a less powerful but more responsive street engine they do offer a 0.72 A/R T3 housing that I feel could serve this purpose.
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Brettus 01-08-2022 09:23 PM

Just checked out their page..... daym , they offer so many options for that turbo .....

They do look like reasonable quality and have some good reviews. I know at least one person that will use one so that will be interesting.
What I do know about them
*inferior turbine (cast iron?) housing material .G30 is cast stainless - although a downside to that is they are ridiculously heavy.
*Inferior turbine blade material

3toedSloth 01-08-2022 10:06 PM

I know there's some pictures of the turbo at the beginning of the thread, but I wanted to add one with something that might be familiar to show just how impressively compact it is for the amount of power you get.

Next to it is a standard Starbucks Grande (16oz / 473.17mL) cold cup.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...339d022239.jpg
That's the recommended .83 housing.

TeamRX8 01-08-2022 10:14 PM

well for sure a good stainless housing is better, but not really a huge deal on a street car imo.

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Brettus 01-08-2022 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by 3toedSloth (Post 4959675)
I know there's some pictures of the turbo at the beginning of the thread, but I wanted to add one with something that might be familiar to show just how impressively compact it is for the amount of power you get out of it.

That really is the crux of it .....for it's physical size.............. it really can't be beat.

Brettus 01-09-2022 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4959676)
well for sure a good stainless housing is better, but not really a huge deal on a street car imo.

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Agreed . The big thing for me would be that I wouldn't trust it to fit properly . I've had a few experiences with Chinese knockoff products ..................

Also something I've noticed with the cast stainless manifold vs the old steel ones I made ..... they really do hold the heat in much better. Everything that can be done down there to stop heat getting to the LIM and into the engine bay ...is a good thing.

TeamRX8 01-09-2022 02:18 PM

yeah ok

but regarding your EFR8370 comment on the other forum, your current 0.83 G30 turbine is the same peak turbine flow as the EFR 7670 1.05 housing
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Brettus 01-09-2022 02:21 PM

I put it at same flow as the EFR 7670 0.92 .... 23lbs/min .

TeamRX8 01-09-2022 02:24 PM

maybe my memory is off, was thinking flatline was 24 lb/min (2.5 Pr+)

also, Matchbot is not listing 70mm turbines properly

Brettus 01-09-2022 02:54 PM

It's 23ish at the pr range I'm in ..... 24 later in PR range.

TeamRX8 01-09-2022 03:12 PM

I don’t think you’re understanding me clearly, but it’s not really any big deal so ok.

Brettus 01-09-2022 03:49 PM

Correct , I didn't get the point you were originally trying to make.
I was just correcting the 7670/1.05 compatible comment.

TeamRX8 01-09-2022 05:52 PM

I have 24.0 for the 0.92 and 25.5 for the 1.05, but ok

archwisp 01-12-2022 04:08 PM

So, uhh... where do I send the money? An how much? =)

Brettus 01-12-2022 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by archwisp (Post 4959967)
So, uhh... where do I send the money? An how much? =)

Hi ,
best to PM me .
Cheers

Fickert 01-20-2022 07:15 AM

Brettus,

Kinda relevant, kinda not. You are using a backpressure sensor correct? Can you describe the parts and tubing you used for this? Just curious on what I am piecing together vs what others have used.

Brettus 01-20-2022 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Fickert (Post 4960428)
Brettus,

Kinda relevant, kinda not. You are using a backpressure sensor correct? Can you describe the parts and tubing you used for this? Just curious on what I am piecing together vs what others have used.

Check out the fourth picture down on this post : https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-maj...5/#post4959080 .Fitting is in upper right of photo.

I've used a 90 degree stainless fitting- 1/8"NPT into manifold and 1/8" flared steel tube exit. From there there is approx. 1m of steel tubing leading to a point beside the ECU . It then goes to silicone tube and I have used the VFAD plastic reservoir as a pulse dampener/ moisture barrier . From there it goes to my gauge . I don't dedicate a permanent gauge to EMAP as you really only need to look at it when you are analysing your system performance. Plus, a lot of moisture comes through the line on startup which can damage the gauge sensor.

Dodo23 05-24-2022 11:15 PM

Updates?
 
Is the other block ready yet? Any updates?

Brettus 05-25-2022 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by Dodo23 (Post 4966802)
Is the other block ready yet? Any updates?

Well ... I had a heart to heart with my engineer and managed to convince him to............ maybe one day, if he's not busy ....do the low comp rotors .

Brettus 10-15-2022 12:50 AM

Accidently turned up da bewst ... Still only 11.5ish on stock engine but damn ............ I'd forgotten how quick these things are!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...183dcdd5c9.png
2nd 2500 to 8000 ................3rd to 7500........................ zero to 11psi in 0.5 seconds in 3rd.

TeamRX8 10-15-2022 01:09 AM

nice 👍

jcbrx8 10-15-2022 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4974038)
Accidently turned up da bewst ... Still only 11.5ish on stock engine but damn ............ I'd forgotten how quick these things are! ...

100. Yezzir. :yesnod:

Fickert 10-17-2022 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4974038)
Accidently turned up da bewst ... Still only 11.5ish on stock engine but damn ............ I'd forgotten how quick these things are!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...183dcdd5c9.png
2nd 2500 to 8000 ................3rd to 7500........................ zero to 11psi in 0.5 seconds in 3rd.

2nd to 3rd was with the turbine blade carrying momentum right?

Still 2500 11+ was only ~1.5 seconds 0.0

Brettus 10-17-2022 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Fickert (Post 4974092)
2nd to 3rd was with the turbine blade carrying momentum right?

Still 2500 11+ was only ~1.5 seconds 0.0

Yeah , and remember ............... you don't typically start from 2500rpm ... I just did that because I was tuning. At any rpm over 4000 the spoolup is much quicker.

TeamRX8 10-17-2022 04:00 PM

just for old times sake :suspect:


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4935511)
It would seem now with the G30 that the 0.83 housing might be what you’d want to have with the latest turbo manifold to provide the best spool without the emap becoming too high.
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https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-maj...5/#post4935511
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