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Old 04-02-2014 | 01:58 PM
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KY CAI and intercooler?

ASSUME THIS IS WITH A TURBO SETUP

I've saw several things about this but of course it was v6 and v8s. My first question is this possible on a rotary, or even a cylinder engine? Would this help and why? And how would you mount this?

Edit: Kinda figured it out just now. It is possible cause the stock intake is CAI. But still if it wasn't CAI would it make a difference?

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What would be the purpose? The reason an intercooler is used is because the intake air is heated up from the compressor housing mating with the hot side of the turbo. An intercooler simply allows the air that was heated up to come back down to ambient intake temperatures.

If you did this on a non-forced induction engine all you would be doing is increasing the volume of the intake tract causing a massive pressure drop.
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What are you asking?

A cold air intake picks up intake air from ambient, rather than the hot engine bay.

An intercooler attempts to shed heat from the intake air that is a result of turbocharger compression.

You can easily have one, both, or neither in your car. Cold air is always better, but a cold air intake tends not to have a very dramatic impact on turbocharged intake temperatures, since the heat from the turbo is significant.

Neither concept has anything to do with piston vs rotary.
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Also would the only thing you could do to the CAI is replace the plastic tubing for metal(cause the intercooler would be in the way)?
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If you mean like an AEM cold air intake for a naturally aspirated car, then no, it won't fit a turbocharged car anyway, because the turbo intake is somewhere else in the car, not at the throttle body. You still want cold air, but it won't be the same piece of hardware. It will be fabricated differently, MUCH differently.

If you mean to add an intercooler to a naturally aspirated car, it's only going to slow down the intake charge, and cause power loss, for no gain.
Old 04-02-2014 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
What would be the purpose? The reason an intercooler is used is because the intake air is heated up from the compressor housing mating with the hot side of the turbo. An intercooler simply allows the air that was heated up to come back down to ambient intake temperatures.

If you did this on a non-forced induction engine all you would be doing is increasing the volume of the intake tract causing a massive pressure drop.
i get what you are saying. but what would the benefit of both be(assume it has a turbo also)
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
If you mean like an AEM cold air intake for a naturally aspirated car, then no, it won't fit a turbocharged car anyway, because the turbo intake is somewhere else in the car, not at the throttle body. You still want cold air, but it won't be the same piece of hardware. It will be fabricated differently, MUCH differently.

If you mean to add an intercooler to a naturally aspirated car, it's only going to slow down the intake charge, and cause power loss, for no gain.
yea sorry i wasnt clear on that. i know a intercooler is just wait if your natural. so better question if you have both with a turbo does the CAI feed into the turbo, then intercooler, then engine?
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Air feeds into the turbo, then from the turbo to the intercooler, then the intercooler to the throttle body.

If the turbo kit manufacture had any level of common sense, yes, they would manufacture the intake pickup point to be in the coldest air available.
Old 04-02-2014 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Air feeds into the turbo, then from the turbo to the intercooler, then the intercooler to the throttle body.

If the turbo kit manufacture had any level of common sense, yes, they would manufacture the intake pickup point to be in the coldest air available.
thanks all questions answered
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