Esmeril Turbo Kit Review & Pics
04-10-2008, 01:53 PM
#402
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Well, I should have said "take a dive" as opposed to "fall flat".
Isn't the Esmeril capable of moving enough air to support the kind of torque you mention until at least 8,000?
From what Vlad says(since he is using the same turbo), when the APVs open up the turbo has no problem keeping up.
Isn't the Esmeril capable of moving enough air to support the kind of torque you mention until at least 8,000?
From what Vlad says(since he is using the same turbo), when the APVs open up the turbo has no problem keeping up.
I have already tried 11 PSI into fuel cut off at 9250 (as It is set on mine) but with this turbo you definitely need bigger injectors. Anything over 10-11 PSI at above 8K pushes ALL SIX (Stock) injectors into above 80% duty cycle (staying at mid to high 10 AF) I could get more headroom running leaner (like 11.5) but it is close to 90 ambient temperature in my world, and another rebuild is not something I am particularly looking for in the near future.
Static, what's your ignition curve looks like? Can you post a pic of your Int-X ignition screens? How much advance do you run at 6K and 4 psi, versus 6K and 10psi?
04-10-2008, 03:08 PM
#405
First of all; This is not a prediction!!!!! 
The design goals are as follow:
"300+whp (350@crank) @ 8-9psi out of the box, 340whp (400hp@crank) by raising boost to 12-13psi and tunning without adding or changing any components. 400+whp(470@crank)@16-17psi by adding our upgraded Turbo housing and making the necesarry ignition upgrades"
Straight from our site.
This assumes a decent tune, average temps, average humidity and the ability to do a full run on the dyno without the APV closing in or the stock ECU closing the throttle.
From this everyone can get an idea of where Static's car should be
Good luck!!!!
Chris
The design goals are as follow:
"300+whp (350@crank) @ 8-9psi out of the box, 340whp (400hp@crank) by raising boost to 12-13psi and tunning without adding or changing any components. 400+whp(470@crank)@16-17psi by adding our upgraded Turbo housing and making the necesarry ignition upgrades"
Straight from our site.
This assumes a decent tune, average temps, average humidity and the ability to do a full run on the dyno without the APV closing in or the stock ECU closing the throttle.
From this everyone can get an idea of where Static's car should be
Good luck!!!!
Chris
04-10-2008, 03:37 PM
#409
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I ran 286.2 hp @ 7250, and 227.7 tq @ 5500, before the ignition crapped out on me.
AFRs per the shop were 10.2, boost was 9 psi.
As rich as it was today the ignition started crapping out at 7200 and fell completely on its face(audible backfire) by 7700 .
AFRs per the shop were 10.2, boost was 9 psi.
As rich as it was today the ignition started crapping out at 7200 and fell completely on its face(audible backfire) by 7700 .
04-10-2008, 03:43 PM
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congrats!
with those numbers if you can pull all the way to redline you should be in the 330ish whp range... get some ignition parts in there
will be interesting to see what further tuning can accomplish, as well
with those numbers if you can pull all the way to redline you should be in the 330ish whp range... get some ignition parts in there
will be interesting to see what further tuning can accomplish, as well
04-10-2008, 03:46 PM
#413
I suspect that at the same 9psi, with 11.2-11.5afr across the board and regapped sparkplugs you should be hitting the low to mid 300whp which is the out of the box design whp range.. You might get a bigger increase from the tunning and the fact that you will be able to rev it out higher up in the range. 227tq is good for 320-330whp on our cars if the ignition doesn't give up so it might be even higher when you tune the car some more.
Call me if you need me to describe the regapping technique(if you haven't done it)
Chris
04-10-2008, 04:22 PM
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I'm going to dyno in 2-3 weeks with the MSD LS2 coils, all trailing plugs and a tune of 11.0... Stay tuned
Yup, already had them to put in, just wanted a nice baseline
Yup, already had them to put in, just wanted a nice baseline
04-10-2008, 05:29 PM
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im sure with those new coils n tuned at 11.0 youll be more then pleased with what your gonna see next .
04-10-2008, 07:50 PM
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Agreed! You could hear the misfires starting at just around 7200 RPM & then once he hit 7900-8000 it just dropped flat on it's face. I think the farthest up the RPM range it made was just about 8050. Once he gets the tune straight & gets those coils in I think he'll be good for 320whp!
04-10-2008, 08:05 PM
#418
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Hmm, what I don't understand is why he is failing to rev through with more than 10:1 AF (while under 10PSI).
I can do a pull all the way on the stock coils, and at 10 and up. Any lower than 10:1, and it boggs down, but what is the point running that rich?
Static, are your plugs with factory gaps?
I can do a pull all the way on the stock coils, and at 10 and up. Any lower than 10:1, and it boggs down, but what is the point running that rich?
Static, are your plugs with factory gaps?
04-11-2008, 08:16 AM
#421
Hmm, what I don't understand is why he is failing to rev through with more than 10:1 AF (while under 10PSI).
I can do a pull all the way on the stock coils, and at 10 and up. Any lower than 10:1, and it boggs down, but what is the point running that rich?
Static, are your plugs with factory gaps?
I can do a pull all the way on the stock coils, and at 10 and up. Any lower than 10:1, and it boggs down, but what is the point running that rich?
Static, are your plugs with factory gaps?
Chris
04-11-2008, 09:28 AM
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It was the shop's call to start it there. The more I have been thinking about it, the more I come to notice something. On the dyno my temps got up to 230. I have my INTX enrichment set super high as temps go up, as I would rather have it misfire from being super double whammy rich than detonate. We only had one medium sized fan pointing on the car when it was on the dyno, it wasn't really blowing too hard either. I wonder if I had another on the oil cooler or a bigger fan in general if it would have stayed cooler and thus leaner. Next time for sure.
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04-11-2008, 09:46 AM
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