We've came up with a really good idea, now that we know we can't beat the greddy pricing, and we never really intended too because quality, and performance should appeal to everyone! Well I was thinking of a small re-design to fit that signature quote "Go big or go home!". Now it's nothing against any of the Greddy / Nitrous or any other owners, but you guys have RX-8s mainly for the sports appeal, correct? I'm more then positive that you guys didn't say hey you know we need another grocery getter in the stable (especially one that doesen't get the greatest gas mileage). So here's what I propose to you guys.

I've personally been working with a couple of close friends and pulling a few strings here and there so I can introduce a re-designed kit that will make the money more then justifiable and feasible (even when compared to other kits).

- 321SS Manifold and Collector
- GT Series Turbo (GT35/40R, GT35R)
- 3'' Downpipe
- 44-46mm Wastegate
- 750-1000cc Injectors
- Front Mount Intercooler
- Tial/HKS/Greddy BOV (Your choice)
- Aluminum Intercooler Piping
- In-Tank Fuel Pump (Walbro 255)
- Standalone EMS w/ MAP Conversion (no more MAF)
Such as AEM EMS (yes the application is unavailable at the moment but not for long.) With all this there's no reason we can't see 350WHP on the standard kit and possibilities of 500WHP in the future

Now this kit will have everything that you guys could possibly want, it's going to have a dual ball bearing turbo, awesome engine management, and great power gains. However this isn't going to be something you can haggle down to pennies at local race shops because On-line store A sells it for 5$ cheaper. We expect the price range to fall at 7,500-8,000$ for the complete kit.

How far away is something like this? It's not far at all, I've got a car coming in ASAP so we can get started on this and hopefully have something to give to you guys by this fall.

I'd like to throw this point in the thread before people start throwing the pricing around. 350z Single Turbo Kits w/o Exhaust manifolds are 5500$, that's with a standard T4 turbo, and piggy back EMS. (Turbonetics, and APS)

 

That sounds like a ton of fun. I like your current setup but I'm still kind of feeling out the FI market. If I ever end up with money like that, this seems to be something to consider. I think there will be more than a few people willing to reach that 500 WHP zone :D . God that would be a terrifyingly fast car :p

 

Thanks for the kind words, but the way I see it is that if your going to have a more expensive kit, might as well throw in everything and make it as good as it can get.

 

Drool.... Gt35r, now that's a turbo

 

Honestly this sounds like THE kit to get. Everything is the best that you can hope for. Sounds much better than an offering at $7500 where it is optional for a ball bearing turbo, etc. You are definitely going to reach a group that wants the best & willing to pay for it. Even on the Nissans you can get a twin turbo Greddy kit (w IC) for a street price of under $6K, & the Turbonetics single turbo kit for under $5K. This is like the APS or Power Enterprise setup. Best of the Best, but you pay for it. Don;t know if there is a market for it. Maybe get a raise of hands. Who's up for this ?

 

i'd deff. wait to see the dyno numbers first..and some first hand accounts. it's still pricey.. no matter how good it is.

 

That's more then understandable . Thanks for the input.

 

That's a drool-worthy setup. If this can be made reliable and streetable . . . damn.

Peace
policy

 

i am assuming that is a stainless steel manifold. has this already been made and tested. reason i am asking is that on 95-99 turbo eclipses, it was actually much much better to port out the stock cast iron manifold than to buy a stainless one, as due to the high heat, the stainless manifold would crack.

im not doubting the quality or engineering that is going into your kit, just raising a concern that you may run into

as to the aem ems, i was speaking to a guy over in aem's tech center about the possibility of them coming out with a standalone for the 8, and they said that probably not in the near future. what i was told is that the universal ems would be more than enough to manage the renesis, but it may have to be hooked up in a piggy back fashion as a lot of the cars functions such as cruise, ac, would not generally be supported by the universal.

please keep us posted as to further progress

thanks

 

Double drool :D

 

doesnt a bigger turbo blow more psi, therefore need lower compression? I mean if this kit hits 10-20 more hp than your current one, I dont think it would be worth the extra $. But I am not a knowledgeable as you guys, so If you can get it in the 350whp range people will buy this kit in a jiffy.

 

It sounds great... in theory... now get to work!

 

no its about CFM not PSI

 

Also, can this engine handle that kind of hp. Chuck Huang over at Rotary Extreme, a very reputable company with long experience with rotaries stated to a poster here that 325-350 whp is about the limit for this engine without major strenthening.

 

he said X amount of HP eventually . he didnt say some other things didnt have to be done beyond the initial kit to get there.

i think this kit for this much power will need bigger primary injectors as well, we shall see...

 

RX8 + SSR turbo + install costs + tuning costs = M3

This math doesn't work for me, but I'm sure there's people who will pony up $10k for an RX8 turbo.

 

i'll take ten of them!..i was thinking abouyt quadruple charginf the motor..hahaha

 

You're lucky you don't have a 350z lol.

 

Yeah, life is tough as a 350z owner ... a whole $3800 for a STILLEN Supercharger giving over 300 at the wheels.

 

M3=3800lbs
rx8=3000lbs

350whp in an rx8 will blow the m3's doors off and then some.

do the math (power to weight ratio)


3000(rx8)/350(whp)=8.5:1
3800(m3)/280(whp)=13.5:1

need I say more?

 

Are you actually thinking of take full advantage of the complete setup? I think 350whp would be great and would love to see it happen. That´s without any other engine modifications or strenghtening. But if we are looking at using this systems FULL capacity, you would end up with a heck of a lot more money to spend on the engine.

 

I like the idea. I am tired of hearing that the RX8 is a great car, super in handling but no power. If SSR is capable of delivering 350 whp I will definitely go for it.

 

Give us a all in one kit, get it right the FIRST time and give us PROVEN RESULTS and RELIABILTY.. and keep it under $10K and you got a gold mine.

 

500 whp!! Even 350 whp...someone pinch me

 

ouchhhh 8k? thats 1/3 of what i paid for my car... and if its not even out and beginning production... theres noooooooo way to tell how long this is going to last/car reliability.....