as for the oil pan..i imagine it is in the kit just not pictured for some odd reason. I haven't contacted greddy or mazdatrix about the kit b/c it is probable a while until i can afford to get anythign like this:(
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for real...it'd pretty cool to have a car that laughed at other people's rides
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yes but his laughed really loud with his 30psi evo 8...haha that jerk and his low 11 sec times...ahh well :p
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my car looks better than his car
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^^^^HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA indeed your car does...as a matter of fact...so does mine:D..haha great find on the link to what the ssq bov sounds like...yep muttley is a dead ringer for it. LOL
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army RX-8... hmm I wonder if that will be kosher ones the mods see it... they might edit that out. Oh well.
Charles... your thoughts about the turbo kits and mine are the same. See my comments with RG in the ptp turbo thread... :p |
would what be kosher..hope i didn't say anything wrong:(
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I followed the link provided by Army and was looking at the exhaust manifold. Is it just me, or does GReddy block off/omit the factory air pump passages?
Charles hmmm you got a point it does look like the left that out. wonder if it'll effect it negativly in any way. or was that the air inlet so it could put more air into the exhaust when you start up (like 30 sec's) so help with emmisions...or did i get confused. i think i started a thread about this a while ago |
The ports that I am looking for are only for the air pump that turns on at start-up. MazdaManiac thinks it won't hurt to block them off if the pump is removed. For those concerned with CEL's, though...
I am glad that you guys pointed out the "missing" parts. I will stop by the shop today and make sure those are included. If not, that would be another reason to be reluctant to install a turbo kit. Early on, like last year, SSR noted some problems with the factory composite intake manifold having problems holding boost. Since then, I haven't heard much on the matter. Neither have I heard much about the three-stage intake under boost. Let me ask this question; which idea has more potential to generate curiosity? An RX-8 with a turbo kit and a small amount of nitrous, or one with the same level of power achieved with just nitrous and a really good tuning job(and bolt-on mods)? Charles |
Turbo+NOS or Serious Mods+NOS???That's the question!!! :D
Witn NOS when the bottles are empty you won't have the extra horsepower...One good race and you can empty you can run out of NOS in less than 2minutes.An it is not very good for a car..Especially Rotor-Motors...Serious Damage could be made...But with very good engineers and off course money there wouldn't be any problems....I can trust you on that one ;) :cool: I have a question Though...Greddy says that in the Greddy Turbo Rx8 they have placed and Sp2 exhaust...As far as i know turbo cars need biggere diameter pipes etc...SP2 is something arround 60mm??How's that??Have they modified the exhaust or something?Cause with small diameters the guses won't flow as good as with bigger diametres??? Just asking though cause i like the greddy turbo but i am going for sp2soon and i don't want to buy a part now and in a few months sell it... |
Originally Posted by army_rx8
would what be kosher..hope i didn't say anything wrong:(
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Army, you don't want to steal my identity because there always comes the bad with the good!
I do tend to wonder how the E-Man will deal/does deal with the matter of open-loop vs. closed-loop operation of the factory ECU. How does all that work, M.M.? I'll still pursue the header idea for those not interested in a turbo set up even though my idea won't work well on a turbo install. One thing I tend to like about the GReddy kit when compared to some of the ones we have seen, so far, is the placement of the turbo. I like it out of the way and less visible. Of course, I'll keep all of you apprised of my experiences and results because I have a very hard time keeping my mouth shut. Now if we can get 400 h.p. or more........ Thanks for the kind words and support, everybody. Next stop, the Ultimate Street Car Challenge, 2005. Charles You shouldn't need any closed loop tuning, even with boost. You want to stay out of boost if you are below 70% throttle, anyway.http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/smiles/icon_shrug.gif
Originally Posted by army_rx8
my friend has the hks ssq bov and it sounds pretty funny...if he isn't at full boost and he lets off the accelerator it makes a hissing laugh sound like mutly from hanna barbara. lol.....who am i kidding...that sounds great too
Bad, but is sounds cool. I put the SSQ BOV in my RX-8 turbo system also.
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
The ports that I am looking for are only for the air pump that turns on at start-up. MazdaManiac thinks it won't hurt to block them off if the pump is removed. For those concerned with CEL's, though...
Originally Posted by army_rx8
Let me ask this question; which idea has more potential to generate curiosity? An RX-8 with a turbo kit and a small amount of nitrous, or one with the same level of power achieved with just nitrous and a really good tuning job(and bolt-on mods)?
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Let me ask this question; which idea has more potential to generate curiosity? An RX-8 with a turbo kit and a small amount of nitrous, or one with the same level of power achieved with just nitrous and a really good tuning job(and bolt-on mods)?
Charles Just my 2 cents... |
Regarding the Greddy turbo kit. Since the kit is not CARB certified does that typically mean it never will be, or is it just a matter of the engineers fine tuning it so they could eventually release a certified kit.
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I would have to agree with Petrus, the combination of TC and NO2 would be ideal....
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Gotta agree with Petrus thinking... although the porting projects look good too... :D
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Originally Posted by army_rx8
Let me ask this question; which idea has more potential to generate curiosity? An RX-8 with a turbo kit and a small amount of nitrous, or one with the same level of power achieved with just nitrous and a really good tuning job(and bolt-on mods)? Charles |
Originally Posted by Petrus
I would prefer the combination of a TC and NO2, so your first choice. Why? Because the 8 can handle more power during freeway and everyday driving and it would be nice with an extra 50-60hp during those normal conditions. For those kind of normal conditions you very rarely need more than 300hp. For those who want even more power for events and so on, thereīs the NO2 option. It gives the boost when you WANT it, and only then. Lets be honest, no one needs more than 300hp for they everyday driving. If itīs not everyday driving itīs normally some kind of racing or events. Even if someone would like to use the extra power of NO2 during tuesday on their way to work, itīs till there ready to use.
Just my 2 cents... hit the nail on the head:D |
I agree with having both nitrous and turbo available for the reasons stated above and the idea that if I am autocrossing/club racing, they don't allow nitrous so the turbo is nice to have. Drag/street racing could stand to use the jolt from the nitrous. That is why I have decided to use both systems on my own car.
On the closed-loop inquiry, I just don't have the experience with the RX-8 ECU yet but I am learning, thanks to all of you, especially Jeff. I tend to think that an RX-8 trying to enter the USCC will at least generate some curiosity from the editors of SpoComCar Mag, especially if it is turbo'd, nitrous'd, with a titanium under carriage, and other mods. I will say this much; I think the RX-8 can do well in most categories of the competition with the right mods, but that's another thread topic isn't it? With a G-Tech indicated 225 whp I am running 13.7's. At this level, each additional 50 hp is worth another whole second, plus or minus a tenth. So, at 280 whp, we should see 12.7-12.8 1/4 mile times. Another 20 h.p. could get us into the low 12's, especially with good tires. My times/h.p. were measured using the stock tires with 30K mile on them so good tires will make those numbers more realistic. Charles |
Not exactly the response I was looking for.. but a canned response none the less..
> Hey there, I heard that your kit is nearing it's > production debut and I am curious if you have any dyno > charts to go along with it. I know it's already > available at some stores for pre-sales but I didnt see > any info on your site yet. > > Thankx a lot for any information you have. > > David... > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > Thanks for your interest in GReddy Products. We are proud to inform you of the release of our turbo kit for the six speed manual RX-8. The kit will have a base boost of about 6 PSI and have a horsepower gain of about 60 horsepower. The kit will include a T618Z turbo, Emanage, front mount intercooler and all the piping and hardware needed to install the turbo kit. This kit also comes with a plug and play emanage to stock ECU wire harness so you do not need to solder and splice the stock ECU wires. Please contact your favorite Authorized GReddy Dealer for purchasing information. Thanks for choosing GReddy Products! RX-8 6speed Turbo kit part number 11540050 MSRP $4195.00 -- GReddy Performance Products, Inc. 9 Vanderbilt Irvine, CA 92618 www.greddy.com |
That's like when you ask an 8-ball to complicated of a question:
Me - "When is my boss going to die?" The Ball - "Yes" Me - "No...when?" The Ball - "No" Me - "F-you 8-ball" The Ball - "F-you back" Sorry sometimes I start typing and don't know when to stop. Aaaaanyways what about porting, a turbo and nos?? hehehe I'm actually waiting for the axial flow supercharger but it's hard trying to deny a bov.. |
contacted greddy about usdm turbo for 6spd
may be old news to some but with all the other threads speculating about the release date, price and such i decided to contact them and get the info straight from the horses mouth!
here is what they said: Thanks for your interest in GReddy Products. We are proud to inform you of the release of our turbo kit for the six speed manual RX-8. The kit will have a base boost of about 6 PSI and have a horsepower gain of about 60 horsepower. The kit will include a T618Z turbo, Emanage, front mount intercooler and all the piping and hardware needed to install the turbo kit. This kit also comes with a plug and play emanage to stock ECU wire harness so you do not need to solder and splice the stock ECU wires. Please contact your favorite Authorized GReddy Dealer for purchasing information. Thanks for choosing GReddy Products! RX-8 6speed Turbo kit part number 11540050 MSRP $4195.00 hope this ends the speculation questions on the greddy turbo kit. I also asked about adding a high flow radiator to help keep the engine cooler with the added heat from the turbo in the engine bay and this was their reply: As for the radiator, it is not really necessary to upgrade for street. If you use this vehicle for off road use or very hard driving and your water temp does rise a lot, it may be good to use a larger radiator, but for everyday driving it is not necessary. -Aaron |
...I think I just drooled all over my keyboard. :D Thanks for the info!
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That is what I call good info right to the point. Thanks man..
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