|
I got almost the same message. Except mine says that they haven't tested it on the auto yet...
Thanks for your interest in GReddy Products. We are currently in the process of finishing the turbo kit for the six speed manual RX-8. We are aiming to make it available by February of 2005 and we will notify its release on our website www.greddy.com. The kit will put out around 300 horsepower to the flywheel and will have a base boost of about 7 PSI. The kit will include a T618Z turbo, Emanage, and all the piping and hardware needed to install the turbo kit. We have not tested the product on the automatic application yet and cannot say if it will be compatible at this moment. Please keep in touch with your favorite Authorized GReddy Dealer for updates. -- GReddy Performance Products, Inc. 9 Vanderbilt Irvine, CA 92618 www.greddy.com |
hmm 300hp to the flywheel... wonder how much this kit will cost...im thinking like 5500-6000 g's...
|
OMG~~ the RE kit~~that looks so nice.
my is on the week should get it this week or next. love them |
if and when this kit comes out...where would you have to go to get it installed? The kit does look nice. Hopefully its reliable and then it might generate some more attention for the 8...seeing how some people are turned away by the "absense" of power.
|
Please remmeber that in order to use the Turbo you have to have a modified ECU.
This kit comes with it but..................... Canzoomer and others have said they have gotten 40 HP from the CZ ECU. Stock 238 HP + 40 HP from ECU = 278HP So the Turbo only gets you 22HP ? I would think the Turbo gives you around 30 without the ECU. So what are we paying for? A good ECU and mediocre Turbo or a great Turbo and mediocre ECU? Or is it : Stock RWHP = 180 + 10 RWHP from intake ( remember the reason why we get this gain from an intake is because we have modified the ECU so that it can use the intake to it's max potential) + 40 RWHP from ECU + 70HP from Turbo It seems like alot of hype and marketing now. I'd like to find out what the real story is. I would like to find out if we can buy the kit without the Emanage and use the Wolf 3D or CZ unit or someother manufacturers ECU. What exactly does the Turbo give us? Can they prove it? |
Originally Posted by Razz1
Please remmeber that in order to use the Turbo you have to have a modified ECU.
This kit comes with it but..................... Canzoomer and others have said they have gotten 40 HP from the CZ ECU. Stock 238 HP + 40 HP from ECU = 278HP So the Turbo only gets you 22HP ? I would think the Turbo gives you around 30 without the ECU. So what are we paying for? A good ECU and mediocre Turbo or a great Turbo and mediocre ECU? 40hp from a NA tune is VERY agressive. You need to run a very lean AFR and alot of advance to get that much out of it, and it's mostly top end gains, with little tq down low. The greddy kit delivers 60hp, and I'll bet its a much safer gain (given there's no hidden anti-boost tricks up the renesis's sleeve). If you had the balls to tune the greddy kit as agressive as a stage 2 CZ, you'd see higher numbers with much more risk. Also the turbo delivers more mid range torque and holds the gains to redline resulting in a quicker car both on a road course and at the strip. so...the answer is we're paying for a good turbo and a mediocre (in the name of safety) tune. greddy doesn't usually go balls to the wall when it comes to their bolt on kits, but they are a great place to pop your FI cherry. |
Originally Posted by davefzr
Life is good huh.... :)
Geez.. Your doing what we only dream about.. I think we are in the wrong profession..... haha.. First the Pettit car and now Greddy.. Is there no end to this.. I hope not for the sake of the readers of RX Tuner :) Do you plan on reporting your findings anytime soon on both of these cars? Awesome.. Don't worry, I'll be reporting on actual DRIVING of the Pettit, GReddy, AND the Protech turbo'd RX-8 in one issue of RX Tuner as a FI Extravaganza. I'll be working on all the manufacturers to get the cars into one central location at the same time for controlled testing. There are other kits that could be thrown into the scrum, if they're ready for testing within the next 1-2 months. |
Originally Posted by Razz1
Please remmeber that in order to use the Turbo you have to have a modified ECU.
This kit comes with it but..................... Canzoomer and others have said they have gotten 40 HP from the CZ ECU. Stock 238 HP + 40 HP from ECU = 278HP So the Turbo only gets you 22HP ? I would think the Turbo gives you around 30 without the ECU. So what are we paying for? A good ECU and mediocre Turbo or a great Turbo and mediocre ECU? Or is it : Stock RWHP = 180 + 10 RWHP from intake ( remember the reason why we get this gain from an intake is because we have modified the ECU so that it can use the intake to it's max potential) + 40 RWHP from ECU + 70HP from Turbo It seems like alot of hype and marketing now. I'd like to find out what the real story is. I would like to find out if we can buy the kit without the Emanage and use the Wolf 3D or CZ unit or someother manufacturers ECU. What exactly does the Turbo give us? Can they prove it? |
Originally Posted by BOOSTD 7
I'll be in So Cal mid-December, and have a date to drive the US turbo'd car.
|
Originally Posted by shawrf1
Ryan: Hope my car is up and running, too... I'll be home in December, so count me in on the fun!
|
Originally Posted by BOOSTD 7
Where is home for you?
|
Originally Posted by shawrf1
Santa Ana, CA... 10 minutes from GReddy. Check your PM.
|
Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX
hmm 300hp to the flywheel... wonder how much this kit will cost...im thinking like 5500-6000 g's...
Both parties were looking at release over the next few months. We'll see... Jeff |
The hp figures given in Japan used about 180rwhp as the base.
|
emanage works for us with our little tricks...
i think we should make a deal with greddy, and tell them how their own stuff works for free parts |
How are these companies getting away with marketing "flywheel" HP to people? Anyone believe Greddy yanked the engine, and dyno'd it w/ their system?
Wheel HP is all that matters. (note the period) Companies advertise "Flywheel" HP to make their kits sound more impressive. "Spend $4000 your car will make 60hp more!" "Spend $4000 and car will make THREE HUNDRED HP!" :) fwiw, I've been exposed to GReddy 'customer service'...for my situation, dealing with a GReddy Miata system, their service blows. :( Oh...and Swarf...the Army must be paying a LOT better than while I was in - 92-95 Germany 97-98 Cp Carroll, Korea 98-00 Ft Lewis. :) |
Originally Posted by Razz1
Please remmeber that in order to use the Turbo you have to have a modified ECU.
This kit comes with it but..................... Canzoomer and others have said they have gotten 40 HP from the CZ ECU. Stock 238 HP + 40 HP from ECU = 278HP So the Turbo only gets you 22HP ? I would think the Turbo gives you around 30 without the ECU. So what are we paying for? A good ECU and mediocre Turbo or a great Turbo and mediocre ECU? Or is it : Stock RWHP = 180 + 10 RWHP from intake ( remember the reason why we get this gain from an intake is because we have modified the ECU so that it can use the intake to it's max potential) + 40 RWHP from ECU + 70HP from Turbo It seems like alot of hype and marketing now. I'd like to find out what the real story is. I would like to find out if we can buy the kit without the Emanage and use the Wolf 3D or CZ unit or someother manufacturers ECU. What exactly does the Turbo give us? Can they prove it? I think you are buying into the CZ hype a bit. I have yet to see a car on this board with CZ Stage 2 (w hi flow cat) that is making anywhere close to the 40 hp that they claim. Look at the thread where another poster got his car dynoed with the CZ stage 2 (and other stuff) on & off. The difference was about 16-17 whp tuned & only a few lb.ft. or torque. If the dyno #'s on the turbo of about 250-260 whp & 225 lb.ft. torque are correct that is a massive upgrade (about 60-70 whp & 80-90 lb.-ft. of torque) over even a tuned stock engine. |
Also the CZ is all in the high-end (6000 rpms or above.) There is absolutely no improvement in the low to mid range. I suspect a FI kit will improve the area under the curve as well as peak HP.
Peak HP is what everyone uses to brag about their car, but nothing beat Area-Under-the-Curve for drivability and true gains in power. |
Werd. USABLE power.
|
Originally Posted by StewC625
Sound fun guys. Sorry my leasing co. won't allow it ...
LMAO Why would you want to turbo a lease? |
Originally Posted by Magic8
Also the CZ is all in the high-end (6000 rpms or above.) There is absolutely no improvement in the low to mid range. I suspect a FI kit will improve the area under the curve as well as peak HP.
Peak HP is what everyone uses to brag about their car, but nothing beat Area-Under-the-Curve for drivability and true gains in power. It is the last octave of RPMs that are important. If your car has a 9000 RPM redline then typically 4500 to 9000 is what I like to call the power band. The average horsepower gain in that region is what's important not just peak power at redline. -Mr. Wigggles |
I'll pay 3 to 5 thousand for a 250-260 whp & 225 lb.ft. torque increase, just the torque alone is a big jump from stock. I don't know about you guys but I'm not looking for a dyno queen on my 8
|
Yeah I am with you. A 90 tq and 70 hp increase would be sweet :)
I would be a happy man... Ryan said in the January issue of RXTuner that we could possibly see a FI comparison for the RX8.. So far the contenders are Pettit, GReddy and PTP.. :) I cant wait. That issue alone will be worth the price of subsription.. haha.. but dont get any ideas Ryan :) |
This FI stuff is a big step in the "Right direction" for all Mazda RX-8 owners...
|
I have a love-hate relationship with my dsm. It's worse than my girl, after I take care of one thing, another thing needs taken care of.
|
| All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:27 AM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands