shaolin

I got almost the same message. Except mine says that they haven't tested it on the auto yet...

Thanks for your interest in GReddy Products. We are currently in the
process of finishing the turbo kit for the six speed manual RX-8. We are
aiming to make it available by February of 2005 and we will notify its
release on our website www.greddy.com. The kit will put out around 300
horsepower to the flywheel and will have a base boost of about 7 PSI. The
kit will include a T618Z turbo, Emanage, and all the piping and hardware
needed to install the turbo kit. We have not tested the product on the
automatic application yet and cannot say if it will be compatible at this
moment. Please keep in touch with your favorite Authorized GReddy Dealer for
updates.
--
GReddy Performance Products, Inc.
9 Vanderbilt
Irvine, CA 92618
www.greddy.com

XDEEDUBBX

hmm 300hp to the flywheel... wonder how much this kit will cost...im thinking like 5500-6000 g's...

ELITE-RX8

OMG~~ the RE kit~~that looks so nice.

my is on the week should get it this week or next.

love them

camaro194

if and when this kit comes out...where would you have to go to get it installed? The kit does look nice. Hopefully its reliable and then it might generate some more attention for the 8...seeing how some people are turned away by the "absense" of power.

Razz1

Please remmeber that in order to use the Turbo you have to have a modified ECU.

This kit comes with it but.....................

Canzoomer and others have said they have gotten 40 HP from the CZ ECU.

Stock 238 HP + 40 HP from ECU = 278HP

So the Turbo only gets you 22HP ?

I would think the Turbo gives you around 30 without the ECU.

So what are we paying for? A good ECU and mediocre Turbo or a great Turbo and mediocre ECU?

Or is it :

Stock RWHP = 180 + 10 RWHP from intake ( remember the reason why we get this gain from an intake is because we have modified the ECU so that it can use the intake to it's max potential) + 40 RWHP from ECU + 70HP from Turbo

It seems like alot of hype and marketing now. I'd like to find out what the real story is.

I would like to find out if we can buy the kit without the Emanage and use the Wolf 3D or CZ unit or someother manufacturers ECU.

What exactly does the Turbo give us? Can they prove it?

epitrochoid

not exactly...

40hp from a NA tune is VERY agressive. You need to run a very lean AFR and alot of advance to get that much out of it, and it's mostly top end gains, with little tq down low. The greddy kit delivers 60hp, and I'll bet its a much safer gain (given there's no hidden anti-boost tricks up the renesis's sleeve). If you had the ***** to tune the greddy kit as agressive as a stage 2 CZ, you'd see higher numbers with much more risk. Also the turbo delivers more mid range torque and holds the gains to redline resulting in a quicker car both on a road course and at the strip. so...the answer is we're paying for a good turbo and a mediocre (in the name of safety) tune. greddy doesn't usually go ***** to the wall when it comes to their bolt on kits, but they are a great place to pop your FI cherry.

BOOSTD 7

Haha, yea ... life is good, as long as I can find creative ways to pay my bills!

Don't worry, I'll be reporting on actual DRIVING of the Pettit, GReddy, AND the Protech turbo'd RX-8 in one issue of RX Tuner as a FI Extravaganza. I'll be working on all the manufacturers to get the cars into one central location at the same time for controlled testing.

There are other kits that could be thrown into the scrum, if they're ready for testing within the next 1-2 months.

BOOSTD 7

You do realize that the GReddy kit uses the same ECU as Canzoomer, they're both eManage. 40 rwhp from the ECU ONLY happens if you replace the exhaust with a straight-through pipe and cat-back, and even then it's a bit optimistic, ~30 rwhp is a better bet.

shawrf1

Ryan: Hope my car is up and running, too... I'll be home in December, so count me in on the fun!

BOOSTD 7

Where is home for you?

shawrf1

Santa Ana, CA... 10 minutes from GReddy. Check your PM.

BOOSTD 7

Ahh, cool ... just read it, and sent you a rambling reply

Relentless

I saw the car last week at SEMA. A Greddy rep said the kit would be about $3500 and 304hp at the flywheel, without intercooler. As Ryan said, the issue is the e-manage and the RX-8 ECU. I talked to the guys from Austin, who also had their Turbo RX-8 at SEMA, and they were having problems using the e-manage as well.

Both parties were looking at release over the next few months. We'll see...

Jeff

Japan8

The hp figures given in Japan used about 180rwhp as the base.

epitrochoid

emanage works for us with our little tricks...

i think we should make a deal with greddy, and tell them how their own stuff works for free parts

dmp

How are these companies getting away with marketing "flywheel" HP to people? Anyone believe Greddy yanked the engine, and dyno'd it w/ their system?

Wheel HP is all that matters. (note the period) Companies advertise "Flywheel" HP to make their kits sound more impressive.

"Spend $4000 your car will make 60hp more!"

"Spend $4000 and car will make THREE HUNDRED HP!"



fwiw, I've been exposed to GReddy 'customer service'...for my situation, dealing with a GReddy Miata system, their service blows.




Oh...and Swarf...the Army must be paying a LOT better than while I was in -

92-95 Germany
97-98 Cp Carroll, Korea
98-00 Ft Lewis.

Fanman

Razz1,

I think you are buying into the CZ hype a bit. I have yet to see a car on this board with CZ Stage 2 (w hi flow cat) that is making anywhere close to the 40 hp that they claim. Look at the thread where another poster got his car dynoed with the CZ stage 2 (and other stuff) on & off. The difference was about 16-17 whp tuned & only a few lb.ft. or torque. If the dyno #'s on the turbo of about 250-260 whp & 225 lb.ft. torque are correct that is a massive upgrade (about 60-70 whp & 80-90 lb.-ft. of torque) over even a tuned stock engine.

Magic8

Also the CZ is all in the high-end (6000 rpms or above.) There is absolutely no improvement in the low to mid range. I suspect a FI kit will improve the area under the curve as well as peak HP.

Peak HP is what everyone uses to brag about their car, but nothing beat Area-Under-the-Curve for drivability and true gains in power.

shaolin

Werd. USABLE power.

said7

LMAO

Why would you want to turbo a lease?

MrWigggles

Exactly...

It is the last octave of RPMs that are important. If your car has a 9000 RPM redline then typically 4500 to 9000 is what I like to call the power band. The average horsepower gain in that region is what's important not just peak power at redline.

-Mr. Wigggles

REXNdBst

I'll pay 3 to 5 thousand for a 250-260 whp & 225 lb.ft. torque increase, just the torque alone is a big jump from stock. I don't know about you guys but I'm not looking for a dyno queen on my 8

davefzr

Yeah I am with you. A 90 tq and 70 hp increase would be sweet

I would be a happy man...

Ryan said in the January issue of RXTuner that we could possibly see a FI comparison for the RX8.. So far the contenders are Pettit, GReddy and PTP.. I cant wait. That issue alone will be worth the price of subsription.. haha.. but dont get any ideas Ryan

DOMINION

This FI stuff is a big step in the "Right direction" for all Mazda RX-8 owners...

REXNdBst

I have a love-hate relationship with my dsm. It's worse than my girl, after I take care of one thing, another thing needs taken care of.