Greddy Turbo Installed - Details Inside!!!!
01-19-2005, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 93silverFD
A search on an e-manage forum turned up some information about having to call the support number that came with the kit and requesting a form to wave liability in order to get the password.
Not sure if thats true but its worth a try.
Not sure if thats true but its worth a try.
01-19-2005, 10:21 PM
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in greddy's finite wisdom, im sure the password is the same for all the kits they ship for all cars...might be time to register on some 'enemy' boards and do a little recon
01-19-2005, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by philodox
Crap. Now isn't that some crap... I wish they would have included that information along with the kit.. Oh well.. Jeff, looks like I may use your base map as a reference after all.
01-19-2005, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Hey Jon, It's omecron's birthday today, why not take him for a helo ride as a present. I'll pay the rental. :D :D :D
01-19-2005, 10:33 PM
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Hey, I was Airborn (paratrooper) and AirAssault (helicopter rapelling) in the Army. I have no problems with any kinda flying machine. If you pick me up, I'm there baby! :D
01-19-2005, 10:37 PM
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I found this little blurb out there.... maybe it will help, but I doubt it:
no, as far as I know. greddy emailed a stock map for 96-2000 19t
kit and the hooked the stock e-manage to the laptop using the
support tool and then they loaded the map. Im not sure of this but I
was told that when you connect the e-manage to the support tool and
put any random number, the e-manage zeroizes itself and then you can
do whatever to it. it basically unlocks itself. <
> Like I said, im not 100% sure cause my tuner did it but that is
what he said he did.
Found it here.. but I'm sure it has already been checked out:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...e/message/8738
We'll get it eventually...
no, as far as I know. greddy emailed a stock map for 96-2000 19t
kit and the hooked the stock e-manage to the laptop using the
support tool and then they loaded the map. Im not sure of this but I
was told that when you connect the e-manage to the support tool and
put any random number, the e-manage zeroizes itself and then you can
do whatever to it. it basically unlocks itself. <
> Like I said, im not 100% sure cause my tuner did it but that is
what he said he did.
Found it here.. but I'm sure it has already been checked out:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...e/message/8738
We'll get it eventually...
01-19-2005, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ranger4277
I found this little blurb out there.... maybe it will help, but I doubt it:
no, as far as I know. greddy emailed a stock map for 96-2000 19t
kit and the hooked the stock e-manage to the laptop using the
support tool and then they loaded the map. Im not sure of this but I
was told that when you connect the e-manage to the support tool and
put any random number, the e-manage zeroizes itself and then you can
do whatever to it. it basically unlocks itself. <
> Like I said, im not 100% sure cause my tuner did it but that is
what he said he did.
Found it here.. but I'm sure it has already been checked out:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...e/message/8738
We'll get it eventually...
no, as far as I know. greddy emailed a stock map for 96-2000 19t
kit and the hooked the stock e-manage to the laptop using the
support tool and then they loaded the map. Im not sure of this but I
was told that when you connect the e-manage to the support tool and
put any random number, the e-manage zeroizes itself and then you can
do whatever to it. it basically unlocks itself. <
> Like I said, im not 100% sure cause my tuner did it but that is
what he said he did.
Found it here.. but I'm sure it has already been checked out:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...e/message/8738
We'll get it eventually...
-Jon
01-19-2005, 11:45 PM
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That would be really great if you could tune it yourself, but if you intend to, BE SURE TO BUY A WBO2 GAUGE FIRST, and an EGT couldn't hurt either.
Congrats on the kit, hopefully you can get to Atco this spring and run 13s.
Congrats on the kit, hopefully you can get to Atco this spring and run 13s.
01-20-2005, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by philodox
Really, what unit were you in? I was in the 82nd Airborne.. to be specific, 1/505 Parachue Infantry Regiment, Scout Platoon. My MOS was 11B3VB4
Wound up becoming a Chemical Decontamination officer.
01-20-2005, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Damn it Jon, there goes your good idea 
Omicron, maybe you should move those last two posts to the lounge.
Maybe I'll let up on you in a couple of years. :D
Omicron, maybe you should move those last two posts to the lounge.
Maybe I'll let up on you in a couple of years. :D
01-20-2005, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Kooldino
That would be really great if you could tune it yourself, but if you intend to, BE SURE TO BUY A WBO2 GAUGE FIRST, and an EGT couldn't hurt either.
Congrats on the kit, hopefully you can get to Atco this spring and run 13s.
Congrats on the kit, hopefully you can get to Atco this spring and run 13s.
01-20-2005, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Kooldino
That would be really great if you could tune it yourself, but if you intend to, BE SURE TO BUY A WBO2 GAUGE FIRST, and an EGT couldn't hurt either.
For tuning purposes, an EGT gauge is pretty useless.
01-20-2005, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverarrow
So is the EGT good for anything?
Once you have tuned for maximum torque at the proper A/F, you can take an EGT reading.
That temperature will be the correct temperature for your particular motor and setup. (It has no correlation to anyone else's numbers, regardless of how high or low it is. For most rotary engines, it is not unusual to see EGTs as high as 1800°F. Even higher is possible. Don't forget, this is the temperature of the gas, not the metal.)
You can then look at that number under different conditions to determine if the engine is optimally tuned for maximum torque.
01-20-2005, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Though I agree that you should have a WBO2S (I have the LM-1 installed in my RX-8), the factory WBO2S as read through the CAN bus is adequate for tuning (this is not the same as the narrow-band O2 sensor in other cars).
I'm afraid to ask what the CAN bus is because I fear I'll hear "search, n00b".
For tuning purposes, an EGT gauge is pretty useless.
01-20-2005, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Yes.
For most rotary engines, it is not unusual to see EGTs as high as 1800°F. Even higher is possible. Don't forget, this is the temperature of the gas, not the metal.)
For most rotary engines, it is not unusual to see EGTs as high as 1800°F. Even higher is possible. Don't forget, this is the temperature of the gas, not the metal.)
01-20-2005, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kooldino
1800F? HOLY SH@#.
My MX-3 was happy at 1600°F at the torque peak.
My Miata sits around 1100°F.
At some point I'll probably probe my RX-8, but I've seen EGTs reported by the ECU via CAN in the 1500°F range, so it has probably been higher.
If EGTs really were an indicator of doom for your engine, 1275°F would be the magic number as your rotor housings melted.
01-20-2005, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by twospoons_
Assuming it is 5 letters and from what I remember the password is case sensitive.
That leaves 52^5 possibilities. Assuming that the com port locks out for 1 second after 3 tries we end up with roughly ~2 years (since we normally find the correct code after trying 50% of the possiblities) to crack the code. We better get on it!
If 1000 people buy the kit then we could do some distributed form of brute force crack.
Find a way to prevent the com port from disabling and we are on a roll..
That leaves 52^5 possibilities. Assuming that the com port locks out for 1 second after 3 tries we end up with roughly ~2 years (since we normally find the correct code after trying 50% of the possiblities) to crack the code. We better get on it!
If 1000 people buy the kit then we could do some distributed form of brute force crack.
Find a way to prevent the com port from disabling and we are on a roll..
Either we got the password or the eManage would be fried by then :D So my best bet would be open the EPROM and read the data/password from there.
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01-20-2005, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Like I said, EGTs (on their own) are useless.
My MX-3 was happy at 1600°F at the torque peak.
My Miata sits around 1100°F.
My Miata sits around 1100°F.
At some point I'll probably probe my RX-8, but I've seen EGTs reported by the ECU via CAN in the 1500°F range, so it has probably been higher.
If EGTs really were an indicator of doom for your engine, 1275°F would be the magic number as your rotor housings melted.
01-20-2005, 01:28 AM
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@ MazdaManiac - Have we met before? Did you have a black MX-3 with two blue(?) racing stripes? If so, we met at Import Wars in 03 (in PA)...and I've seen videos of your boosted MX-3.
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Originally Posted by seikx8
I'm doing a little more analysis: It take about 80 bytes per transaction to unlock the emanage communicate over a 9600 baud speed. This mean we can request 15 tries per seconds. I've have tried using my own written code and haven't experience the port shutdown from eManage yet after so many tries. So assuming no downtime with your 52^5 possiblity, it would take roughly 10.5 months to be exact Either we got the password or the eManage would be fried by then :D So my best bet would be open the EPROM and read the data/password from there.
Either we got the password or the eManage would be fried by then :D So my best bet would be open the EPROM and read the data/password from there.to hack though.