Greddy Turbo Installed - Details Inside!!!!
01-21-2005, 10:15 PM
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I am eventually going to tune for 9.5 psi. From looking at the numbers Jeff was pulling, the injectors will definately handle the load. Hopefuly I can get 300 at the wheels at 9.5psi and a killer tune.
With the greddy kit, keep in mind that I am getting about 7psi.. the map on the emanage is pre-tuned for 5psi. So there is room for improvement in the base tune. Also, if I work the ignition in advance a little bit that can help too. I really do think with the right tune, this Greddy kit can handle 300rwhp safely.... then again, it's always ALL in the tune.
With the greddy kit, keep in mind that I am getting about 7psi.. the map on the emanage is pre-tuned for 5psi. So there is room for improvement in the base tune. Also, if I work the ignition in advance a little bit that can help too. I really do think with the right tune, this Greddy kit can handle 300rwhp safely.... then again, it's always ALL in the tune.
01-21-2005, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by philodox
I am eventually going to tune for 9.5 psi. From looking at the numbers Jeff was pulling, the injectors will definately handle the load. Hopefuly I can get 300 at the wheels at 9.5psi and a killer tune.
With the greddy kit, keep in mind that I am getting about 7psi.. the map on the emanage is pre-tuned for 5psi. So there is room for improvement in the base tune. Also, if I work the ignition in advance a little bit that can help too. I really do think with the right tune, this Greddy kit can handle 300rwhp safely.... then again, it's always ALL in the tune.
With the greddy kit, keep in mind that I am getting about 7psi.. the map on the emanage is pre-tuned for 5psi. So there is room for improvement in the base tune. Also, if I work the ignition in advance a little bit that can help too. I really do think with the right tune, this Greddy kit can handle 300rwhp safely.... then again, it's always ALL in the tune.
01-21-2005, 10:43 PM
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Jon,
if you're getting 7psi and the eManage is set for 5, how are you getting 7? Sorry if this sounds totally off. ..
Am I totally wrong by thinking the eManage does not control psi and only controls A/F? What determines the psi you achieve, the wastegate? What do you adjust to get more psi?
Yes, ima turbonewb.
if you're getting 7psi and the eManage is set for 5, how are you getting 7? Sorry if this sounds totally off. ..
Am I totally wrong by thinking the eManage does not control psi and only controls A/F? What determines the psi you achieve, the wastegate? What do you adjust to get more psi?
Yes, ima turbonewb.
01-21-2005, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-Nut
Jon,
if you're getting 7psi and the eManage is set for 5, how are you getting 7? Sorry if this sounds totally off. ..
Am I totally wrong by thinking the eManage does not control psi and only controls A/F? What determines the psi you achieve, the wastegate? What do you adjust to get more psi?
Yes, ima turbonewb.
if you're getting 7psi and the eManage is set for 5, how are you getting 7? Sorry if this sounds totally off. ..
Am I totally wrong by thinking the eManage does not control psi and only controls A/F? What determines the psi you achieve, the wastegate? What do you adjust to get more psi?
Yes, ima turbonewb.
Boost controller my friend
It allows you to raise your boost levels even though the wastegate is preset for a certain boost pressure.
01-21-2005, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by philodox
Jon's Car: 240.4 rwhp.
Torque is a big fat ???????? because their dyno wouldn't read it properly.
sorry for no torque numbers guys, call Altered Atmosphere and bitch at them for not being able how to get a proper RPM reading from a rotary engine Now your thoughts?
Now your thoughts?
01-21-2005, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
If you have the engine running perfectly in tune the rotary will make about 7 BHP for every pound of air/min. A piston engine will make 10. No tears boys I learned this the very hard way.
01-21-2005, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
No DSC. No limp mode.
I ran the CanScan as we dyno'ed and there was nothing odd about the ignition timing or throttle.
We did NOT pull the rear wheel sensors.
The myth about dynoing the the RX-8 is busted.
There are only three ways the RX-8 could do anything like a limp mode:
1) Pull throttle
2) Pull ignition timing
3) Add a LOT of fuel (though, really, that wouldn't do much but make the car run like crap)
After 16 consecutive dyno runs - the last 11 without turning off the ignition at any point - nothing like the above ever happened.
I ran the CanScan as we dyno'ed and there was nothing odd about the ignition timing or throttle.
We did NOT pull the rear wheel sensors.
The myth about dynoing the the RX-8 is busted.
There are only three ways the RX-8 could do anything like a limp mode:
1) Pull throttle
2) Pull ignition timing
3) Add a LOT of fuel (though, really, that wouldn't do much but make the car run like crap)
After 16 consecutive dyno runs - the last 11 without turning off the ignition at any point - nothing like the above ever happened.
01-21-2005, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by philodox
I am eventually going to tune for 9.5 psi. From looking at the numbers Jeff was pulling, the injectors will definately handle the load. Hopefuly I can get 300 at the wheels at 9.5psi and a killer tune.
With the greddy kit, keep in mind that I am getting about 7psi.. the map on the emanage is pre-tuned for 5psi. So there is room for improvement in the base tune. Also, if I<a onMouseOver="window.status='' ; return true;" onMouseOut="window.status='';" oncontextmenu="window.status=''; return true;" onclick="location.href='http://www.enhancemysearch.com/admin/results.php?q=work&id=4';return false;" href="" TITLE="More Info..."> work </a>the ignition in advance a little bit that can help too. I really do think with the right tune, this Greddy kit can handle 300rwhp safely.... then again, it's always ALL in the tune.
With the greddy kit, keep in mind that I am getting about 7psi.. the map on the emanage is pre-tuned for 5psi. So there is room for improvement in the base tune. Also, if I<a onMouseOver="window.status='' ; return true;" onMouseOut="window.status='';" oncontextmenu="window.status=''; return true;" onclick="location.href='http://www.enhancemysearch.com/admin/results.php?q=work&id=4';return false;" href="" TITLE="More Info..."> work </a>the ignition in advance a little bit that can help too. I really do think with the right tune, this Greddy kit can handle 300rwhp safely.... then again, it's always ALL in the tune.
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01-21-2005, 11:11 PM
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...and now I feel dirty...dirty...why Mazda, why???
Who am I kidding...I'm having huge amounts of fun in my 8 either way...Philodox, keep up the great work!
Who am I kidding...I'm having huge amounts of fun in my 8 either way...Philodox, keep up the great work!
01-21-2005, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
...and now I feel dirty...dirty...why Mazda, why???
Who am I kidding...I'm having huge amounts of fun in my 8 either way...Philodox, keep up the great work!
Who am I kidding...I'm having huge amounts of fun in my 8 either way...Philodox, keep up the great work!
01-21-2005, 11:14 PM
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No way. He's gained around 8whp per PSI so far. 10-15 isn't going to happen.
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01-21-2005, 11:21 PM
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FYI -- Eric (@ CitySpeed) is fresh out of Greddy kits. Looks like the positive results from our friend Philodox has created a "run" on them. They're expecting a new shipment in a few weeks or so, but their current ebay auction will be for one from the next shipment.
01-21-2005, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason
With a proper tune he will. I tune cars all the time and that is the norm.
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Do I think he could get more power out of his tune? Sure. 10whp per PSI sounds reasonable. 15whp per PSI? Not on a stock Greddy turbo setup with pump gas.
01-21-2005, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMamma
FYI -- Eric (@ CitySpeed) is fresh out of Greddy kits. Looks like the positive results from our friend Philodox has created a "run" on them. They're expecting a new shipment in a few weeks or so, but their current ebay auction will be for one from the next shipment.
01-22-2005, 12:00 AM
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Any particular reason why other cars that use say 9-10psi sometimes double their HP output? I was reading on how a Scion tC put out almost 300whp on 10psi when these tC's run stock 120-130whp. (granted the tC uses a tried and true age old reliable Camry engine :o)
Is the Renesis topped out or is mainly due to its "newness" and lack of work on them?
Do you think 9-10psi will garner say 300+ whp? (still far less than double)
Is the Renesis topped out or is mainly due to its "newness" and lack of work on them?
Do you think 9-10psi will garner say 300+ whp? (still far less than double)
01-22-2005, 12:16 AM
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AGAIN, you can't predict HP by boost. The efficency will be different at another point on the map. And the density ratio will be different. In a turbo you can run into turbine efficency problems also. Where are you on the map now?
Where the hell are you Fred, got a girl over there or something?
Where the hell are you Fred, got a girl over there or something?
01-22-2005, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RX-Nut
Any particular reason why other cars that use say 9-10psi sometimes double their HP output? I was reading on how a Scion tC put out almost 300whp on 10psi when these tC's run stock 120-130whp. (granted the tC uses a tried and true age old reliable Camry engine :o)
Is the Renesis topped out or is mainly due to its "newness" and lack of work on them?
Do you think 9-10psi will garner say 300+ whp? (still far less than double)
Is the Renesis topped out or is mainly due to its "newness" and lack of work on them?
Do you think 9-10psi will garner say 300+ whp? (still far less than double)
You didn't say on pump gas, so I think it could definately be done on racing gas.
01-22-2005, 12:25 AM
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I understand that boost does not necessarily equate to HP..
I was trying to ask if you believe if there is a some max HP that the Renesis can provide. It seems easier for others engine to double their HP output with a turbo addon whereas the Renesis looks like its struggling to get more than half. In other words I guess the possible potential of the Renesis..
Now I dont even know if its struggling to meet less than half its normal HP, but it seems that way.
What are 350z owners getting by slapping on similar bolt ons? Other cars? Are they seeing 40-60hp gains, or are they seeing 100+ gains? I guess, again since I'm a turbonewb, what are average gains by bolt on turbos?
I was trying to ask if you believe if there is a some max HP that the Renesis can provide. It seems easier for others engine to double their HP output with a turbo addon whereas the Renesis looks like its struggling to get more than half. In other words I guess the possible potential of the Renesis..
Now I dont even know if its struggling to meet less than half its normal HP, but it seems that way.
What are 350z owners getting by slapping on similar bolt ons? Other cars? Are they seeing 40-60hp gains, or are they seeing 100+ gains? I guess, again since I'm a turbonewb, what are average gains by bolt on turbos?
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01-22-2005, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RX-Nut
I understand that boost does not necessarily equate to HP..
I was trying to ask if you believe if there is a some max HP that the Renesis can provide. It seems easier for others engine to double their HP output with a turbo addon whereas the Renesis looks like its struggling to get more than half. In other words I guess the possible potential of the Renesis..
Now I dont even know if its struggling to meet less than half its normal HP, but it seems that way.
What are 350z owners getting by slapping on similar bolt ons? Other cars? Are they seeing 40-60hp gains, or are they seeing 100+ gains? I guess, again since I'm a turbonewb, what are average gains by bolt on turbos?
I was trying to ask if you believe if there is a some max HP that the Renesis can provide. It seems easier for others engine to double their HP output with a turbo addon whereas the Renesis looks like its struggling to get more than half. In other words I guess the possible potential of the Renesis..
Now I dont even know if its struggling to meet less than half its normal HP, but it seems that way.
What are 350z owners getting by slapping on similar bolt ons? Other cars? Are they seeing 40-60hp gains, or are they seeing 100+ gains? I guess, again since I'm a turbonewb, what are average gains by bolt on turbos?
