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Old 04-15-2005, 06:45 PM
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Well i got my O2 sensor ... the car was running great no bog smooth transactions and very smooth ..... The only problem we did not install the catch can ..... and i had oil shoting out of the BOV and went every where ....... SO i dont know i will install the catch can tommarow and let you know ....... I called JIM from the place that pilo had his install done and he said ..... My AEM wideband was accurate .... idle at 15-16 cruise 13-15 and at WOT 11-13 sooooo just letting you all know

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Old 04-15-2005, 06:51 PM
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Do you need a catch can to have a BOV, I have never seen that before.
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The crankcase ventilation system relies on engine vacuum to keep things under control. When using boost it upsets the ventilation system so a catch can needs to be used to remedy the above-mentioned situation.

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Old 04-15-2005, 10:27 PM
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I have the Greddy map

I got the new RX8 map from benny over at Greddy. It needs you to update the Greddy Support Tool software as well. He sent everything to me, but when I try to downlod it here, the two updates for the Greddy Support tool are too large & the updated map is not recognized. When he sent it to my hotmail (& I would assume Yahoo too) address it would not let me download it or forward it as Hotmail thinks it is a virus. I had him send it too me at an alternate address. Shoot me a PM if you need me to send it to you (has to be an email account where you can disable the anti-virus) or depending on if anybody is intereted I can burn a CD & send it to you. Probably better than having us all harass Benny sending it over the web & half the time we can't even extract it.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Here is my last MAP again, for those that want an intellectual excersise - it is the same as the current Greddy MAP, only with ignition timing (the turbo kit is not wired for this, so they deleted it), no "VTEC" because I don't use the open-loop fooler module and shift-surge fueling suppression (I don't know why they deleted this - it works).
I know they sell the ignition and injector harnesses for the EManage. How big a deal would it be to hook those up to the unit that comes with the kit?
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Fanman i have PM YOU

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Old 04-16-2005, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ScudRunner
I know they sell the ignition and injector harnesses for the EManage. How big a deal would it be to hook those up to the unit that comes with the kit?
Well, the injector harness is already part of the kit. Only the ignition harness is not.
It would be fairly easy since the kit comes with a harness adapter.

You can download the Support Tool update here:

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/downloads...e%20update.zip

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Old 04-16-2005, 11:23 AM
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I am putting on my high flow cat... i had straight pipe no cat , to try to help with the smoking ... when i start the car up its smokes alot for about 30seconds .... when i am driving it doesnt smoke much at all wheh i come to a stop it smokes a little ... is that normal ????? last night the BOV sprayed oil all over the engine and there was alot in the piping ...so i think some of the smoke is from the oil burning up ..... i put the catchcan on so i am having no problems with the oil this far .... also my car the CEL goes off .... then it will come on and some times blink i cant find the post of why it does that can someone please tell me i forgot .... thanks


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The smoking on cold start-up is normal. It is a type of "choke" setting along with the raised idle speed. That's why the air injector pump runs for 30 seconds after start-up; to burn the extrat fuel AND to help heat up the cat quickly.

If you have removed your cat, you'll get a persistent CEL because the PCM is telling you the cat is not functioning.

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Jeff, should I stay on top of these new maps you have, under the notion that they will also work well with my upcoming nitrous boost increases? Remember, all I really need to do is control the ignition curve. Fine-tuning the factory maps is just an option as the car is already pretty quick with the N.

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CRH .... I have the CEL sometimes sometimes its gone and sometimes it blinks ..... Why does it do everything ???? v
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Shane, I hate to come into the advice-giving game on your car so late so p.m. me a list of mods you have and I'll tell you what I know about them. If you have already been over this with MM/Abrams, whatever he told you is as good or probably better than what I would have to offer. I would still like to help, if you think I may be able to, but I don't want to just tell you what you have already been offered from others. There are two or three people who help me with my stuff and if you have already talked to them you have already talked to the proper Maniacs, Gods, and whatever.

Talk to you then,
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Jeff, should I stay on top of these new maps you have, under the notion that they will also work well with my upcoming nitrous boost increases? Remember, all I really need to do is control the ignition curve. Fine-tuning the factory maps is just an option as the car is already pretty quick with the N.

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No. The MAPS for turbo are going to be quite different from what you will need for nitrous.
Since you are running a wet kit, I'll assume that your A/Fs are OK.
The ignition timing MAP is based on boost, so you will never get into that range while spraying.
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Mazdamaniac, and CRH, wats my best bet for getting my boost up, CAT is back on and car runs smooth as hell, but dropped almost 3psi once i took out the Bonez Midpipe, with the midpipe on, the car was runnin shitty,choppy, and lean at high rpms, but it was a monster when u got on her, Im lookin for some good advice and i kno u guyz can help me, my previous 7.7 lbs of boost an 268rwhp, is down to 5lbs and prob like 240hp, Plain a simple i need more power, also i still have second dongle on, should i remove it and would i benefit? car also has newest map from Greddy.
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Ya know as I logged off after asking that question and went back to finishing some stuff on my car I realized how dumb of a question it was, and for the reason(s) you stated. My mere asking went contrary to my objective with this nitrous project and that is to have two well-running situations. One without nitrous and the other one with. The only difference will be the ignition curve because I am using a wet system so, yes the A/F ratios will be correct. I am pretty happy with the way the N flash has my car running and if I can use the E-Man to clean up some A/F's that would be a bonus but not mandatory. So really, I will only be using the E-Man to control ignition timing and we still don't know what the optimum will be until we get there.

Thanks for your patience during these moments of mental vapor lock, Jeff.

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Old 04-17-2005, 01:15 AM
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Does anyone have any of the kits in stock?
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Well.... I put my cat on and the car runs GREAT couldnt run any better not much backfire . BUT at WOT the car runs A/F on the AEM wideband 10-13 and then it goes right to 16-17 then back to 14-15 ..... sound good right ?? let me know thanks

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RX8FAN01..

Where did you tap for sensor for your A/F sensor? .... Your in REALLLY dangerous A/F levels.... If your installing a MID PIPE w/ the turbo kit you should be TUNING ........before driving the car hard at all. Obviously the car will feel great (translation faster) because your running more boost... but the maps are not tuned yet

Also, if your CEL is blinking.. it is a CRITICAL error....meaning get your car off the road..something is DESPERATELY WRONG!!

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Old 04-17-2005, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hybrid-RX8
Also, if your CEL is blinking.. it is a CRITICAL error....meaning get your car off the road..something is DESPERATELY WRONG!!
I was told by numerous mechanics and dealership mechanics that the blinking CEL in the RX-8 indicates that you are either destroying your catalytic converter, or are killing your emmisions. Maybe I was told wrong.
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The owner's manual should have the answer to the blinking CEL question. I'd check, but I'm in Kentucky and my car's in Florida.
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Originally Posted by philodox
I was told by numerous mechanics and dealership mechanics that the blinking CEL in the RX-8 indicates that you are either destroying your catalytic converter, or are killing your emmisions. Maybe I was told wrong.
check engine light comes on when conditions are met that can raise the emissions to 1.5 times federal test procedure.

flashing check engine light comes on anytime conditions are met that might damage the catalytic converter.

this isn't specific to mazdas or rotaries, it's generic obd2 stuff.
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Well, I order mine form Thew at Mazdaparts.com over the weekend, I can't wait to get it!
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Well. it seems i only get the blinking CEL for 15 seconds and thats under boost .... I have not drove my car hard AT ALL since the install ..... I put the A/F sensor after the cat . next to the factory one . i also still have my air pump on the car so i think im not getting 100% accurate A/F reading . My car is running great so i dont think anything is wrong but i could be wrong . seems that everyone that runs into problems the car is running a bit choppy and breaking up alot mine is doing none of that . The only thing that its does everyonce in a while when i bring it home and let it ideal for a min befor shutting it off it seems to load up and when i start it back up it smokes for about 30 Seconds i talked to JIM the guy who installed Philo's turbo kit and he says everyhting is fine . and sounds like everything is good even the A/F b.c i still ahve the air pumo on .... I dont know though im not a mechanic



HYbrid-RX-8 i put the highflow cat back on it before i was just running no cat or resanator ...

I Also spoke with benny and he told me that the A/F on my car the way it is running is fine . thats how it is supposed to be . so i dunno

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Whenever a WIDEBAND o2 is being used...... it should ALWAYS be put before the cat...... or you will get inaccurate readings.
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that could be part of my problem then ???? i also have a little problem i have a catchcan but oil seems to spray under the hood ... ??? i think philo had the same problem for a while but i can find out how he fixed it

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