How Kane and Ray build a Ceramic, Ported, Turboed Renesis!!!!
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I now have 100 miles on the new engine - and can make some observations.
1 - 1 piece seals do have low RPM compression issues - my car is pulling more vacuum past 3000 rpms than it ever did (22inHG in cruise) - but below 1000 RPMS it is running 12-14inHG.... so you do have to up the idle.
2 - The BHR clutch is f-ing magic..... it is so light weight I need to learn to drive all over again; Ray needs to come visit me and educate me like he did Bobby in Hawaii!
3 - The ported motor is damn near impossible to keep out of boost - I mean that freakin turbo spools so quick it is ridiculous... I noticed it more since I was trying to stay out of boost.
Now that I can tune - (I just loaded my first map 5 minutes ago) - it is fixin' to be game on suckas!!!!
Oh and I will say the throttle response is about 20% better that it was; FI or not - lowering rotating mass has a huge benefit.
And lastly - fuel leaks are scary.
1 - 1 piece seals do have low RPM compression issues - my car is pulling more vacuum past 3000 rpms than it ever did (22inHG in cruise) - but below 1000 RPMS it is running 12-14inHG.... so you do have to up the idle.
2 - The BHR clutch is f-ing magic..... it is so light weight I need to learn to drive all over again; Ray needs to come visit me and educate me like he did Bobby in Hawaii!
3 - The ported motor is damn near impossible to keep out of boost - I mean that freakin turbo spools so quick it is ridiculous... I noticed it more since I was trying to stay out of boost.
Now that I can tune - (I just loaded my first map 5 minutes ago) - it is fixin' to be game on suckas!!!!
Oh and I will say the throttle response is about 20% better that it was; FI or not - lowering rotating mass has a huge benefit.
And lastly - fuel leaks are scary.
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nice bro--nice. Merry Christmas!
We Pettit guys idle at 1100K --works well. We do it for a different reason of course. I am pulling 20 of vac on stock seals at idle and since i modded the oil bypasses and i really dont know why that happened (something you may want to consider--look at the thread) I am pulling 21 at 2K. Pull 19-20 at light interstate cruise.
Hint--do some oil analysis--some things may surprise you. You have a lot of work and money in the engine--uoa is cheap important knowledge. It made me change some things.
Motor mounts holding ok? Did you notice more "snap" and a better shifting?
I know its a lot added at once and it may be hard to differentiate from some other stuff but just wondering.
olddragger
We Pettit guys idle at 1100K --works well. We do it for a different reason of course. I am pulling 20 of vac on stock seals at idle and since i modded the oil bypasses and i really dont know why that happened (something you may want to consider--look at the thread) I am pulling 21 at 2K. Pull 19-20 at light interstate cruise.
Hint--do some oil analysis--some things may surprise you. You have a lot of work and money in the engine--uoa is cheap important knowledge. It made me change some things.
Motor mounts holding ok? Did you notice more "snap" and a better shifting?
I know its a lot added at once and it may be hard to differentiate from some other stuff but just wondering.
olddragger
#460
Kane,
i'm looking forward to seeing how the power curve is for this piece of art!
Since, as you say, it's craving for boost maybe you have a perfect wankel with low end power as well :p
i'm looking forward to seeing how the power curve is for this piece of art!
Since, as you say, it's craving for boost maybe you have a perfect wankel with low end power as well :p
#461
nice bro--nice. Merry Christmas!
We Pettit guys idle at 1100K --works well. We do it for a different reason of course. I am pulling 20 of vac on stock seals at idle and since i modded the oil bypasses and i really dont know why that happened (something you may want to consider--look at the thread) I am pulling 21 at 2K. Pull 19-20 at light interstate cruise.
Hint--do some oil analysis--some things may surprise you. You have a lot of work and money in the engine--uoa is cheap important knowledge. It made me change some things.
Motor mounts holding ok? Did you notice more "snap" and a better shifting?
I know its a lot added at once and it may be hard to differentiate from some other stuff but just wondering.
olddragger
We Pettit guys idle at 1100K --works well. We do it for a different reason of course. I am pulling 20 of vac on stock seals at idle and since i modded the oil bypasses and i really dont know why that happened (something you may want to consider--look at the thread) I am pulling 21 at 2K. Pull 19-20 at light interstate cruise.
Hint--do some oil analysis--some things may surprise you. You have a lot of work and money in the engine--uoa is cheap important knowledge. It made me change some things.
Motor mounts holding ok? Did you notice more "snap" and a better shifting?
I know its a lot added at once and it may be hard to differentiate from some other stuff but just wondering.
olddragger
Thanks - yeah 10 PSI at 2700 RPM's with no boost controller really surprised me - do you have any idea how hard it is to stay below 3K?!?!!? Crazy. I'll have to make a video so you all can see my "Turbo lag" - it will blow your mind.
#462
That sounds impressive, i'm afraid of blowing my pockets more than my mind if i see that kind of video!
Am i wrong or are you using one of jeff's modified gt3071r turbos? I can't remember!
Am i wrong or are you using one of jeff's modified gt3071r turbos? I can't remember!
#463
Yeah I am on the GT3071R.
The difference is I had it on a stock motor and on this thing - and I can definitely feel there is a difference. It was always a fast spooler - but I could at least tell it was going to go into boost - now it does it damn near instantly - and before I know it I'm pushing positive PSI.... even at half throttle.
The difference is I had it on a stock motor and on this thing - and I can definitely feel there is a difference. It was always a fast spooler - but I could at least tell it was going to go into boost - now it does it damn near instantly - and before I know it I'm pushing positive PSI.... even at half throttle.
#464
Why is my engine so healthy? you make me want to do a complete engine\turbo install and not just a turbo one
Will the turbo be adequate for you engine now? :p Since your hymee package has arrived you don't have to spend at home, go finish the break-in and tune this beast!
Will the turbo be adequate for you engine now? :p Since your hymee package has arrived you don't have to spend at home, go finish the break-in and tune this beast!
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I now have 100 miles on the new engine - and can make some observations.
1 - 1 piece seals do have low RPM compression issues - my car is pulling more vacuum past 3000 rpms than it ever did (22inHG in cruise) - but below 1000 RPMS it is running 12-14inHG.... so you do have to up the idle.
2 - The BHR clutch is f-ing magic..... it is so light weight I need to learn to drive all over again; Ray needs to come visit me and educate me like he did Bobby in Hawaii!
3 - The ported motor is damn near impossible to keep out of boost - I mean that freakin turbo spools so quick it is ridiculous... I noticed it more since I was trying to stay out of boost.
Now that I can tune - (I just loaded my first map 5 minutes ago) - it is fixin' to be game on suckas!!!!
Oh and I will say the throttle response is about 20% better that it was; FI or not - lowering rotating mass has a huge benefit.
And lastly - fuel leaks are scary.
1 - 1 piece seals do have low RPM compression issues - my car is pulling more vacuum past 3000 rpms than it ever did (22inHG in cruise) - but below 1000 RPMS it is running 12-14inHG.... so you do have to up the idle.
2 - The BHR clutch is f-ing magic..... it is so light weight I need to learn to drive all over again; Ray needs to come visit me and educate me like he did Bobby in Hawaii!
3 - The ported motor is damn near impossible to keep out of boost - I mean that freakin turbo spools so quick it is ridiculous... I noticed it more since I was trying to stay out of boost.
Now that I can tune - (I just loaded my first map 5 minutes ago) - it is fixin' to be game on suckas!!!!
Oh and I will say the throttle response is about 20% better that it was; FI or not - lowering rotating mass has a huge benefit.
And lastly - fuel leaks are scary.
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more vacuum at higher rpms is just the centrifugal force acting on the apex seals?
Dang man 10psi at 2.7K----thats like supercharger territory !!!!!!! Sweet! Its a usable rpm level now and thats one reason i choose to drop have a 7.5K redline and use gearing for more performance rather than a higher redline. Centrifugal forces at 9K versus 7K is 1.7 times stronger and progressively harder on the drivetrain and produces a LOT more heat.
Very very nice dude!
Throttle response ---actually the stiff motor mounts may be part of that? I too was very surprised.
I know i am aggravating but seriously man--you have one hell of an engine---get the oil pressure up(oil flow) with Pauls kit and use a oil filter with a higher bypass.
King Kane, King Kane, King Kane says the crowd!
Smile off your face yet? Hell Im smiling just reading about it!
OD
Dang man 10psi at 2.7K----thats like supercharger territory !!!!!!! Sweet! Its a usable rpm level now and thats one reason i choose to drop have a 7.5K redline and use gearing for more performance rather than a higher redline. Centrifugal forces at 9K versus 7K is 1.7 times stronger and progressively harder on the drivetrain and produces a LOT more heat.
Very very nice dude!
Throttle response ---actually the stiff motor mounts may be part of that? I too was very surprised.
I know i am aggravating but seriously man--you have one hell of an engine---get the oil pressure up(oil flow) with Pauls kit and use a oil filter with a higher bypass.
King Kane, King Kane, King Kane says the crowd!
Smile off your face yet? Hell Im smiling just reading about it!
OD
Last edited by olddragger; 12-26-2009 at 09:39 AM.
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Ray what i meant to imply was that the turbo Kane has is spooling up pressure at a low rpm that is COMMONLY known as a characteristic of a supercharger --that is all.
i can get a 9lb boost at 3K and carry that boost to redline--but i dont want to start any contest of anything. Boost is boost.
Bearing protection is more of a proper strength oil film thing --than flow or pressure.
Read the long thread in the Tech section and you can maybe get a better idea of where I am coming from.
Hope you and yours had a merry Christmas man
OD
i can get a 9lb boost at 3K and carry that boost to redline--but i dont want to start any contest of anything. Boost is boost.
Bearing protection is more of a proper strength oil film thing --than flow or pressure.
Read the long thread in the Tech section and you can maybe get a better idea of where I am coming from.
Hope you and yours had a merry Christmas man
OD