How long should I wait to FI?
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I go back and forth on this issue and I guess ti boils down to personal preference. MY big objection (if it were my own car in question) would be that factory tc cars are engineered and fitted with specific specs and tolerances knowing the car has a factory fitted turbo, and our car does not. It is toleranced and clearanced for a certain level of power. It being my car I would do a N/A break in, put on the F/I system then do a second break in because I do belive that you are right in that it will need further adjustment and "wearing in". Thats just me though. After putting 50, 60, 75K miles on the car if either of our cars were to fail even with exactly the same setups and miles under boost, you couldn't point to break-in or lack of break in before adding the system to a point of failure either way. Basically just do what you feel comfortable with.
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correct. This thread had potential to go way south but I'm glad it's doing well so far.
We could throw a wrench in the system and start the, "Now that you're going FI...Supercharger or Turbo?"
We could throw a wrench in the system and start the, "Now that you're going FI...Supercharger or Turbo?"
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But no point in worrying about something that hasn't happened yet, right?
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But thats between me and my car
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I just can't understand all of the posts that say "bye bye warranty". You wouldn't actually take your car to the dealership with the turbo installed, would you?
The answer is simple. If the car breaks down, tow it to your house first. Take off the turbo, put the car back to stock, then tow it to the dealership. Done.
In reality, a turbo means "bye bye warranty for little junk that isn't a big deal, but if the engine blows you are still covered". I wouldn't take the car in for routine maintenance to the dealership, but its nice to know that if you blow the engine or tranny, they have no idea that you went FI.
Call it unethical, but are you really worried about those scumbag dealerships anyway?
I guess its hard for people to understand if they don't do their own installations, but if you can operate a hand tool, your warranty is fine. Just remember that if you have to alter something that is stock (like hoses, wires, plastic junk), buy a replacement to keep on hand to swap back on if something goes wrong.
I guess I could be wrong if the PCM records manifold pressure and reports it to the dealer, and since I'm new to the RX8, who knows.
The answer is simple. If the car breaks down, tow it to your house first. Take off the turbo, put the car back to stock, then tow it to the dealership. Done.
In reality, a turbo means "bye bye warranty for little junk that isn't a big deal, but if the engine blows you are still covered". I wouldn't take the car in for routine maintenance to the dealership, but its nice to know that if you blow the engine or tranny, they have no idea that you went FI.
Call it unethical, but are you really worried about those scumbag dealerships anyway?
I guess its hard for people to understand if they don't do their own installations, but if you can operate a hand tool, your warranty is fine. Just remember that if you have to alter something that is stock (like hoses, wires, plastic junk), buy a replacement to keep on hand to swap back on if something goes wrong.
I guess I could be wrong if the PCM records manifold pressure and reports it to the dealer, and since I'm new to the RX8, who knows.
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i do the reverse. bring it to the dealership for anything they should be covering, though transmission and engine issues are off limits due to the turbo. it's an accepted risk when turbocharging.
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I just can't understand all of the posts that say "bye bye warranty". You wouldn't actually take your car to the dealership with the turbo installed, would you?
The answer is simple. If the car breaks down, tow it to your house first. Take off the turbo, put the car back to stock, then tow it to the dealership. Done.
In reality, a turbo means "bye bye warranty for little junk that isn't a big deal, but if the engine blows you are still covered". I wouldn't take the car in for routine maintenance to the dealership, but its nice to know that if you blow the engine or tranny, they have no idea that you went FI.
Call it unethical, but are you really worried about those scumbag dealerships anyway?
I guess its hard for people to understand if they don't do their own installations, but if you can operate a hand tool, your warranty is fine. Just remember that if you have to alter something that is stock (like hoses, wires, plastic junk), buy a replacement to keep on hand to swap back on if something goes wrong.
I guess I could be wrong if the PCM records manifold pressure and reports it to the dealer, and since I'm new to the RX8, who knows.
The answer is simple. If the car breaks down, tow it to your house first. Take off the turbo, put the car back to stock, then tow it to the dealership. Done.
In reality, a turbo means "bye bye warranty for little junk that isn't a big deal, but if the engine blows you are still covered". I wouldn't take the car in for routine maintenance to the dealership, but its nice to know that if you blow the engine or tranny, they have no idea that you went FI.
Call it unethical, but are you really worried about those scumbag dealerships anyway?
I guess its hard for people to understand if they don't do their own installations, but if you can operate a hand tool, your warranty is fine. Just remember that if you have to alter something that is stock (like hoses, wires, plastic junk), buy a replacement to keep on hand to swap back on if something goes wrong.
I guess I could be wrong if the PCM records manifold pressure and reports it to the dealer, and since I'm new to the RX8, who knows.
I do my own routine maintenance anyways, so the only reason I would take it back to the dealership is for a warranty issue.
But what happens if your stereo, headlamps, or something else like that went on you. It sure would be a pain in the **** to take your turbo off and get them to replace the parts.
Lets just hope I didn't buy a lemon
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I agree with the other guys- you are right, it does make it a hassle when little stuff goes wrong, because you have to decide if its worth it to you to take all the stuff off to get stuff it fixed. Going FI has its trade-offs.
My point is just that the FI doesn't automatically void the warranty as long as you are willing to put the time and effort (and hassle) into playing the game.
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