Hymee gets Supercharged (Part 2)
#52
Originally Posted by Hymee
Taka,
BTW - In the Olympic baseball game I saw AUS play JPN, I saw a Japanese batter named "TAKAHASI"
BTW - In the Olympic baseball game I saw AUS play JPN, I saw a Japanese batter named "TAKAHASI"
I remember his first name is Yoshinobu or something - like Yoshi (Like the computer game from Nintendo ).
There should be a Takahashi as well pitching - he is a pitcher for Hiroshima, where our cars are from :D
#57
Hymee, how heavy is that compressor? It looks very solid. and the completed intercooler? Next time put something next to it so we can see how big it is.
Where does that bypass fit? What size are those rear bearings. They must be just greased as no oil inlet/outlet are visable.
Looks good, I'm keeping my eye on you. It's smart of you to use the Motec for first dyno development. How far do you think the stock nozzles will take you?
RAP
Where does that bypass fit? What size are those rear bearings. They must be just greased as no oil inlet/outlet are visable.
Looks good, I'm keeping my eye on you. It's smart of you to use the Motec for first dyno development. How far do you think the stock nozzles will take you?
RAP
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Supercharger Project Plan - Where to from here?
I am going to attempt to outline where this should all go from here (and where we have got to so far):
Phase 1 - Dreaming
Way too much dreaming was done, but I needed to have realistic intentions.
Complete? Well - perhaps I am always dreaming
Phase 2 - Inital Research
Do lots of reading, and talk to lots of people. Intermixed with a lot of dreaming as well!
Complete
Phase 3 - Decision Time: What Hardware?
Turbo? Centrifugal S/C? Roots/Eaton S/C? Axial Flow S/C? Twin-Screw S/C?
Which manufacturer?
What Intercooling technology?
(Note: I would dearly like to try an Axial Flow as well. But my budget restricts me to one for now)
Complete
Phase 4 - Procurement
There came a point where just talking and hypothesising about it only got us so far. It was time to just get the stuff and give it a go.
Complete
Phase 4 - Get it running
This is the phase we are currently entering. Initially we want to get the blower mounted somewhere, and plumbed into the engine. All done so it will work on the engine dyno without total regard for where it will ultimately fit. That is in the back of our mind, but initially we need to get something running! Once it is runnning, we can package it properly in a later phase.
Current phase
Phase 5 - Dyno Testing
Seeing how it performs, testing various combinations of "boost". Validating the efficiency of the cooler. Exploring the requirements / capabilities of the fuel system. Getting optimum tunes for the huge matrix of operating conditions. All done under full control of the Motec engine management system.
Future phase
Phase 6 - Packaging
Once we have all out data, and now what we can achieve, we need to fit it all in. We have variuos mounting brackets to design and fabricate. And the same to be said about a number of ducts, adaptors, castings, bushes etc. All so it fits in perfectly.
Future phase
Phase 7 - Restesting
When we get it all in, we need to re-test on the chasis dyno, and on the road. This phase will also entail calibration of the piggy back ECU with lessons learned on the engine dyno.
Future phase
Phase 8 - Enjoying "Instant Torque" and never look back!
Future phase
I hope this impresses the pants of you all. I hope you can see we are going to do it properly, and that a lot of time and effort needs to go into this.
Some more pics...
Donor engine that will be used on the Engine Dyno:
Stuff on the bench, thinking about basic parts we need to make to get it running:
Cheers,
Hymee.
I am going to attempt to outline where this should all go from here (and where we have got to so far):
Phase 1 - Dreaming
Way too much dreaming was done, but I needed to have realistic intentions.
Complete? Well - perhaps I am always dreaming
Phase 2 - Inital Research
Do lots of reading, and talk to lots of people. Intermixed with a lot of dreaming as well!
Complete
Phase 3 - Decision Time: What Hardware?
Turbo? Centrifugal S/C? Roots/Eaton S/C? Axial Flow S/C? Twin-Screw S/C?
Which manufacturer?
What Intercooling technology?
(Note: I would dearly like to try an Axial Flow as well. But my budget restricts me to one for now)
Complete
Phase 4 - Procurement
There came a point where just talking and hypothesising about it only got us so far. It was time to just get the stuff and give it a go.
Complete
Phase 4 - Get it running
This is the phase we are currently entering. Initially we want to get the blower mounted somewhere, and plumbed into the engine. All done so it will work on the engine dyno without total regard for where it will ultimately fit. That is in the back of our mind, but initially we need to get something running! Once it is runnning, we can package it properly in a later phase.
Current phase
Phase 5 - Dyno Testing
Seeing how it performs, testing various combinations of "boost". Validating the efficiency of the cooler. Exploring the requirements / capabilities of the fuel system. Getting optimum tunes for the huge matrix of operating conditions. All done under full control of the Motec engine management system.
Future phase
Phase 6 - Packaging
Once we have all out data, and now what we can achieve, we need to fit it all in. We have variuos mounting brackets to design and fabricate. And the same to be said about a number of ducts, adaptors, castings, bushes etc. All so it fits in perfectly.
Future phase
Phase 7 - Restesting
When we get it all in, we need to re-test on the chasis dyno, and on the road. This phase will also entail calibration of the piggy back ECU with lessons learned on the engine dyno.
Future phase
Phase 8 - Enjoying "Instant Torque" and never look back!
Future phase
I hope this impresses the pants of you all. I hope you can see we are going to do it properly, and that a lot of time and effort needs to go into this.
Some more pics...
Donor engine that will be used on the Engine Dyno:
Stuff on the bench, thinking about basic parts we need to make to get it running:
Cheers,
Hymee.
#61
Originally Posted by Hymee
I hope this impresses the pants of you all. I hope you can see we are going to do it properly, and that a lot of time and effort needs to go into this...
Cheers,
Hymee.
Cheers,
Hymee.
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Originally Posted by ranger4277
I forget, was the plan to destroy the donor motor learning the limits of the renesis? I thought I read that someplace.. might not have been Hymee though.
Cheers,
Hymee.
#65
let me first say....that I've been observing the site for the last three months, which is how long I've had by RX8 and it's the best site ever. The supercharger project has me really keen and I'm in for one as well....keep up the good work.
#66
Hymee,
How long have you budgeted for time during this phase?
Certanly appreciate your dreaming, financial commitment, and progress reports. Being almost halfway through my warranty mileage, I will be checking your phases closely.
Onward ho mate !
How long have you budgeted for time during this phase?
Certanly appreciate your dreaming, financial commitment, and progress reports. Being almost halfway through my warranty mileage, I will be checking your phases closely.
Onward ho mate !
#67
Originally Posted by rx88er
let me first say....that I've been observing the site for the last three months, which is how long I've had by RX8 and it's the best site ever. The supercharger project has me really keen and I'm in for one as well....keep up the good work.
...and since your first post was on one of Hymee's threads, I assume you know about his other products. Buy a Hymee grille kit and exhaust.....the quality and execution of his stuff is top notch, and the proceeds will help hasten the supercharger kit development :D .
Go"spruiker"mez .
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Originally Posted by rxeightr
Hymee,
How long have you budgeted for time during this phase?
Certanly appreciate your dreaming, financial commitment, and progress reports. Being almost halfway through my warranty mileage, I will be checking your phases closely.
Onward ho mate !
How long have you budgeted for time during this phase?
Certanly appreciate your dreaming, financial commitment, and progress reports. Being almost halfway through my warranty mileage, I will be checking your phases closely.
Onward ho mate !
Cheers,
Hymee.
#69
Awesome Hymee. Your plan of attacking the supercharger issue mirrors that of mine. I hope everything goes well. Twin-screw is the way to go.
What are you planning on doing with the intake manifold?
edit: I'm still in love with your exhaust. Hopefully I can buy it soon.
What are you planning on doing with the intake manifold?
edit: I'm still in love with your exhaust. Hopefully I can buy it soon.
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#70
Phase 9 - Breaking the transmission
And then finding out what specifically is breaking for people, and then developing an alloy gearset or whatever. (Seriously, I've seen several companies attempting FI, but is anyone working on improvements for the transmission?)
Not to detract from your work so far of course--it's looking good.
And then finding out what specifically is breaking for people, and then developing an alloy gearset or whatever. (Seriously, I've seen several companies attempting FI, but is anyone working on improvements for the transmission?)
Not to detract from your work so far of course--it's looking good.
#71
Originally Posted by BaronVonBigmeat
Phase 9 - Breaking the transmission
And then finding out what specifically is breaking for people, and then developing an alloy gearset or whatever. (Seriously, I've seen several companies attempting FI, but is anyone working on improvements for the transmission?)
Not to detract from your work so far of course--it's looking good.
And then finding out what specifically is breaking for people, and then developing an alloy gearset or whatever. (Seriously, I've seen several companies attempting FI, but is anyone working on improvements for the transmission?)
Not to detract from your work so far of course--it's looking good.
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Originally Posted by Ageo
Hymee i think you have a bit of a fan club here.
Now i understand why you moved the thread.
Looking very impressive, as there will not be many aftermarket supercharger suppliers.
Now i understand why you moved the thread.
Looking very impressive, as there will not be many aftermarket supercharger suppliers.
Hehehe - I didn't move it. A "higher order" fan wanted to shift it for me
Thanks for you support.
Cheers,
Hymee.
#74
Originally Posted by Gomez
Sidestepping the clutch at 7000rpm will have that effect! Apart from some strange clutch plate failures I've seen reported, most off the gearbox/diff probs relate back to severe abuse, don't they? These cars aren't Hemi equipped with Dana rearends....why do people treat them as such?
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I'm sure will find out about this when the time comes. But we might keep that for another technical thread please, and leave this one on the topic of this supercharger project.
I'm also sure those willing to do this mod will contemplate these downstream concerns.
Cheers,
Hymee.
I'm also sure those willing to do this mod will contemplate these downstream concerns.
Cheers,
Hymee.