8:1 - 8.2:1 is maximum power, but waaaay too lean to be safe on E85.
Shoot for a lambda of .76, which is 7.4:1 on E85.

Its hard I know, patience is key to sanity.

You are in good hands with Hymee. Sometimes perfection is for the benefit of all. For giving exact dates it is SOOOO hard in this industry especially when you have to rely on other people dates change from time to time it happens.

Best piece of advice I could give having been on both sides of the fence is be calm and patient.

Throwing a hissy fit won't make the process go any faster and will only hurt the communication process make things more troublesome.

Cheers to seeing this completed!

sorry speedy but that statement is a bit of an oxymoron.
The Pettit isn't anywhere near the LEVEL of Hymee's supercharger kit. Trust me, I've seen both in person and Hymee's build quality is exceptional.

the Pettit kit was rushed to the market and look at how many 'tweaks' and 'fixes' those users have had to go through. Mark is attempting to release a product that will be complete and a reflection of his company and all the work that has gone into this project.

I can imagine waiting a year for this has been quite frustrating but as others have said: hang in there, you're in good hands. I fully expect that this kit will be worth the wait when it's all said and done.

Agree,

I've got no problem waiting for this kit. If Mark does not think it's ready to be shipped, and there's more problems, then so be it. He'll treat us right and get it to us as quickly as possible while keeping his quality high above all other kits.

Very stoked, and very stoked for a long time coming, but it will be well worth the wait.

(plus, I need to take a 20+hour road trip this summer and can't install it until after anyways) :ylsuper:

Thanks for updating when possible Mark, looking forward to getting the package some time soon ;)

You guys are a lot more patient than I would be .
How long is too long ?

8.45 is the lean max power and way more than enough for an NA Renesis. Don't forget that E85 is much more detonation resistant, higher octane, and also charge cools way more than street fuel. If you're running serious boost maybe that low ...

Too long?

3 years.

I want to void my warranty on my own, I won't let it expire damn it :cussing:

Keep in mind, I'm Canadian.

Subjective question will get subjective answers right? Obviously from the two people that have responded that are on the preorder list have very different opinions just backs up what I'm saying.

I guess it all comes down to "managing expectations".


Either way, I just want to see this installed on a car and see what it can do in a real-world environment.

Just want to set the record straight. Hymlee would never and has never belittled the Pettit.
kit. Vice versur is also true. Pettit kits do not have tweaks etc that need to be worked out. Its a good solid kit with many users and well documented results.

Hymlee's kit is absoulutely beatiful, and a lot of precise craftmanship has been done to a lot of the supporting parts. One of a kind and worth every penny and every day waiting.
Performance wise I am thinking they will be very close.
There are some parts of the Hymlee kit I like better---the belt drive system for one and there are some parts of the Pettit kit i like better---the a/w intercooler for one. But to each his own and its great to have choices.
Hymlee--mate----God speed with all the fustration in waiting of suppliers. I know that sucks.
Meanwhile build one of those needle bearing engines you guys use to take off the line at the drag strip at 12Krpm!!
olddragger

For those of us on the list it has been a long year.....but not nearly as long as for Hymee. He's doing what it takes to get it right, and our patience will be rewarded with a first class kit. Since I don't ever plan on selling my 8, a few extra weeks now is well worth the longevity we'll get from the high quality parts.

We are talking a boosted application (not N/A - this is an S/C thread) and I'm quoting numbers from experience, not theoretical values.

sometimes it´s very hard if you live on the other side of the world and you never see what you pay for.
maybe i was a little too frustrated about that..

the reason is that i remind me at mazsportscott. back then i was waiting 1year for the ignition solution and a few other things from mazsport that i never get.. but this is another story..

i´m sure that mark do what he can to finished this kit..

I'm not sure why anyone should have to rattle your cage to get you to look at your support email account? :rolleyes: :nono: :icon_bs:










was that a big enough rattle? :angel:


ps: WTH is Hymlee? :confused:



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but with a much less important non pro/usb question..


beers
Yeah, but it important to him.

guessing you missed my point.. requested a bit of help with my old school
sCANalyser old school serial port with vista and a known good working usb adapter.. did a good search, you know i am good at that.. on this site and google mail.. ;)

there is a folder i need to dump to make it worik again..

did it by pm, and the hymee site.. did not want to be a bother and dump it to your direct email?

beers :beer:

Has anyone stateside installed this kit yet?

Kit is not here in North America yet...
I know Tubingchamp and I are waiting for delivery with 1 or 2 others as well.

First customer install is happening right now in Australia and Hymee is documenting that process to make the rest of us install instructions. I'd expect we're only a few weeks out now for other installations to begin (unless they find a major issue with kit#1)

It's about time..... we been waiting over a year.

Any new updates?

I have sent out a very detailed update, to all my valued customers, of the status of every component of the kit, and also progress on the trial install.

The summary is this:

Dry installed performed on ORX0-800's car. This was neccessary to check fitment etc of lots of little things that were necessary. One weird thing was how the factory intake plenum must have some manufacturing tolerances that don't affect stock design, and the tube into the intake plenum was misaligned on Danny's car. Really wierd, as 3 previous installs (our "bench" engine, my car, and Danny's race engine) did not have a problem. So the tube had to be redesigned with two o-ringed joints to allow for misalignments that seem to occur naturally in the field. The upshot is the new part even looks better, and is easier to fit. Even though it now take the machining and pressing together of 3 "pieces" and 2 o-rings to make a part that used to be a simple tube.

A number of other little tiny things, such as hose fittings, and procuring "nicer" ones than the brass fittings I used over the last few years. There is also the revised positioning of the oil filter - much better and accessibly now when you change the oil!, including an adaptor that allows for oil-pressure and temp sensors to be fitted.

Just lots of little things that require another days turnaround. Like last night the "proper" install started. Not far into the process, it was found the hydraulic hose dude didn't include some important fittings. So that means we have to wait until today, when the hydraulics were hoped to be finished last night.

I hope you can see this is not a simple process. Even now, after 5 years, I still am learning. But how long we have come in those 5 years! (see earlier photos, compared to the recent ones). Even the kit I took to SSX, which was immensely well received, looks pedestrian to the current production kit.

The "proper" install is now underway, and the desire is to have the install finished over the weekend for Danny's car. The installation manual will then be finalised, and the remaining "post-trial fitment" parts that need to be finished for the rest of the kits can be knocked over. Not long to shipping then.

Frustrated? You bet-cha , we all are, including me and my good and very patient wife. I can't even explain to her why it takes so long, and why the overdraft is still there. Sorry if people are frustrated or pissed off, but it is unconscionable for me to send anything half-arsed. I guess a year and a bit for the S/C after taking initial orders isn't that bad compared to a few coil packs and that taking a similar amount of time.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Customer Progress
 

As you might already know, Danny from Australian Diversified Engineering is performing the first customer install. Danny is a local customer, and also the proprietor of ADE and the RX-8 Plus division. His workshop is being used a testing ground for the first production "customer ready" kit. This is to iron out any possible teething issues - as it is near impossible to be done on my car given the history of in/out installs in it since 2007/8. It is also good to validate the comprehensive parts list, and any potential (real!) manufacturing variations between cars.

Here is a list of photo's showing the current progress of install. The intention is to have the car running and driveable on Tuesday.

New A/C Tensioner:
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 028.jpg


Cold side boost tube; Part of TB extension harness:
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 041.jpg


Overall GA of install. Non-stealthy blue tube in upper right is a tube for the electronic boost pressure sender (MAP).
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 053.jpg


Close up of well "hidden" vacuum plumbing:
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 057.jpg


GA from side:
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 059.jpg


GA from front:
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 061.jpg


Intercooler, LHS:
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 064.jpg


Intercooler , Under:
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 063.jpg


Intercooler , Front:
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 071.jpg


Nice RX-8 fender protector - factory SST:
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/10-04-2010 067.jpg
http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/DSC_3304.jpg


More a bit later on.

Cheers, Hymee

:Drooling_

A couple more shots showing the new remote oil filter location and brackets, and a general under-car shot.

http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/dsc_3301.jpg


http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/dsc_3302.jpg


http://www.hymee.com/images/rx8sc/dsc_3305.jpg


Cheers,
Hymee

Looking smoking good there my friend. So so close now - hang tough mate!

Very nice. The new oil filter location is .....interesting. ;)