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InfiniFC 04-11-2010 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by rxeightr (Post 3515156)
Looking smoking good there my friend. So so close now - hang tough mate!

Ditto! :ylsuper:

Mazdaspeed 88 04-11-2010 04:08 AM

Nice to see the progress of the installation.... ;-)

Hymee 04-11-2010 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by alz0rz (Post 3515210)
interesting. ;)

Goodly interesting, or badly interesting?

Cheers,
Hymee.

lafrad 04-12-2010 05:36 PM

Wow... fit and finish of the build looks great... especially for a kit that hasn't hit lots of cars yet.

But WOW thats a LOT of volume behind the MAF/TB... Are there any issues with that?

lafrad 05-03-2010 01:17 PM

Well, I didn't mean to kill the thread!

dondo 05-04-2010 12:51 AM

^ lol

shhhhhh, it's sleeping.

speedy33 05-18-2010 02:09 PM

Updates please!? :molepoke:

tubingchamp 05-18-2010 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by speedy33 (Post 3564189)
Updates please!? :molepoke:

I think it was supposed to ship last week?

So pretty soon I'm thinking... :fingersx:

tubingchamp 05-20-2010 12:08 PM

Bump!

Jedi54 05-20-2010 04:58 PM

I haven't heard from Hymee in weeks, either he's working like a mad man on this project or he as eaten by a rabid Kangaroo! :scared:

pdxhak 05-20-2010 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3567763)
I haven't heard from Hymee in weeks, either he's working like a mad man on this project or he as eaten by a rabid Kangaroo! :scared:

said Kangaroo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_FVD0BR2Mc

speedy33 05-20-2010 05:09 PM

yeah no customer updates or something..

tubingchamp 05-20-2010 05:27 PM

All you need to do is bug him..

He updated me May 7th.

Said it was going to ship in a week from then, but yeah :)

It won't be long!!!!!


Originally Posted by speedy33 (Post 3567781)
yeah no customer updates or something..


Aerohead 05-20-2010 10:31 PM

He sent out a customer update late today. All dyno tuned and final updated pieces arriving this week. Hymee said for us to expect ~240hp at the wheels with his conservative street tune and 8-10psi. Higher power would require more aggressive dyno tuning and higher boost.

I'm just looking forward to the 60-70% torque boost at low RPM. He said peak rear wheel torque is ~225ft-lbs around 5000rpm with the blower, but it comes on very quickly at low rpm's.

Shouldn't be too much longer....

Brettus 05-20-2010 10:35 PM

you SC guys be careful you don't wipe your ECU's brain when you install Protuner ...............

Jedi54 05-21-2010 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Aerohead (Post 3568105)
Hymee said for us to expect ~240hp at the wheels with his conservative street tune and 8-10psi.

Does anyone else think that's a bit low? I'm not knocking Mark's work, I'm a big fan of this kit but there's N/A cars that are at 210. (CRH).
The torque sounds fun but I would have figured 8-10 psi would give a bit more.

I'm curious to see one of these in action and what can be done when this thing gets pushed.

pgrothe 05-21-2010 01:55 PM

Yeah, 240hp is a bit low considering the amount of money that we have to put on the kit.

If it's all we can get I will probably change my mind and take a closer look at what Pettit is doing, I think they are more close to 280hp.

tubingchamp 05-21-2010 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by pgrothe (Post 3568960)
Yeah, 240hp is a bit low considering the amount of money that we have to put on the kit.

If it's all we can get I will probably change my mind and take a closer look at what Pettit is doing, I think they are more close to 280hp.

That's with a basic tune..

Did you not read the rest of the e-mail?

He said at 14PSI the engine can put out 340 at the fly :) (which is dyno proven).


The other number is Torque. 300 Nm, corrected at the Flywheel J Getting into diesel pulling power now, but with the nice bits of a rotary.
^^ That sounds nice too ;)

I didn't sign up for this kit to blow by the turbo guys. I signed up because of the quality, finish, and how much of a perfectionist Mark is.

If we have an issue, I guarantee you he won't leave us dead in the water.

Less power, longer our engines will last anyways, right? :rock:

speedy33 05-21-2010 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3568947)
Does anyone else think that's a bit low? I'm not knocking Mark's work, I'm a big fan of this kit but there's N/A cars that are at 210. (CRH).
The torque sounds fun but I would have figured 8-10 psi would give a bit more.

I'm curious to see one of these in action and what can be done when this thing gets pushed.

Yes its a bit low but i think its all about tuning..
pettit have 280-300whp at 8psi with testpipe.
i think boost = boost, at least with an SC.

but that is what i always thought when i see the 340hp dyno from hymee at 14psi! that is something about 290-300WHP on a real car!

why can pettit produce this at 8PSI???

tubingchamp 05-21-2010 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by speedy33 (Post 3568979)
Yes its a bit low but i think its all about tuning..
pettit have 280-300whp at 8psi with testpipe.
i think boost = boost, at least with an SC.

but that is what i always thought when i see the 340hp dyno from hymee at 14psi! that is something about 290-300WHP on a real car!

why can pettit produce this at 8PSI???

I don't think they can.

RIWWP 05-21-2010 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by tubingchamp (Post 3568976)
That's with a basic tune..

Did you not read the rest of the e-mail?

He said at 14PSI the engine can put out 340 at the fly :) (which is dyno proven).

Check out my post here on what doesn't make sense...
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...postcount=2966

I don't want to clutter up his thread until he responds.



Originally Posted by tubingchamp (Post 3568976)
Less power, longer our engines will last anyways, right? :rock:

I'm not convinced that this isn't a contributing reason that S/Cs don't have the failure rate turbo's do (our engines) :)

tubingchamp 05-21-2010 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 3568988)
Check out my post here on what doesn't make sense...
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...postcount=2966

I don't want to clutter up his thread until he responds.

--

Not a dyno junky, nor do I really care honestly.. Numbers are numbers.. I plan on getting a bit closer to the higher number out of my engine though ;)


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 3568988)
I'm not convinced that this isn't a contributing reason that S/Cs don't have the failure rate turbo's do (our engines) :)

What other reasons would there be?

Honestly, it's true that there is a higher failure rate with turboed engines. Because they make more power.

I just like the measures Mark has put into ours.. To reduce belt slippage, stop it from creating stress on the shaft, and the heat it puts out...


BTW, discharge temps at blower are getting up around 90+ Degrees C, but ambient on the discharge of the intercooler. If you put your hand on the cold side header tank, it feels just that: Cold Same for the boost pipe coming out of it. A bit of heat soak once it gets to the plenum. Also – that is not on the road, but with a bit of a fan going.

RIWWP 05-21-2010 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by tubingchamp (Post 3569005)
Not a dyno junky, nor do I really care honestly.. Numbers are numbers.. I plan on getting a bit closer to the higher number out of my engine though ;)

I agree. I am not either. This kit is still what I see as ideal for our engines. Just saying that what Areohead posted above doesn't make much sense compared to his prior dyno sheets and changes since. Well, it does if he also limited the revs to ~6k, but I don't think he did. So just waiting for clarification.



Originally Posted by tubingchamp (Post 3569005)
What other reasons would there be?

Honestly, it's true that there is a higher failure rate with turboed engines. Because they make more power.

I just like the measures Mark has put into ours.. To reduce belt slippage, stop it from creating stress on the shaft, and the heat it puts out...

I'd say the total combined failure reasons are: (in my personal unqualified opinion with no actual experience)
- #1 installation, either poor installation, bad quality installation, or simply wrong installation (like no heat shield around the turbo, or the boost controller lines swapped)
- #2 tuning, either too risky, too aggressive, or just wrong
If you get past those 2 just fine, then you get to the inevitable:
- #3 more power. More power from the same engine = lower life span. Everyone agrees



Just most turbo failures don't get past the first 2 :)

dondo 05-21-2010 03:44 PM

you can go ask the pettit guys but they're getting 280-300 at 6-9PSI on the kit pulley and 300-330 on the bigger pulley at 11-13PSI (https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...postcount=6333). all to the wheels.

pdxhak 05-21-2010 03:45 PM

Did Hymmee use E85 for the dyno pull?


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