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dondo 05-21-2010 03:45 PM

on one yeah. he tried all sorts of different fuels.

pdxhak 05-21-2010 03:53 PM

I need to read back to see which fuel was used for the 340 engine dyno. I am thinking E85 though.

speedy33 05-21-2010 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 3569100)
I need to read back to see which fuel was used for the 340 engine dyno. I am thinking E85 though.

No!
He had 360hp with E85 fuel and 340hp with 98Ron @14PSI

Brettus 05-21-2010 04:05 PM

I'll take a bet that Mark is just underpromising and the kit will do better than this ......

speedy33 05-21-2010 04:19 PM

Donīt think so.
He would have nothing from that.
For his business it would be better he overpromising..

MazdaManiac 05-21-2010 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by dondo (Post 3569088)
you can go ask the pettit guys but they're getting 280-300 at 6-9PSI on the kit pulley and 300-330 on the bigger pulley at 11-13PSI (https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...postcount=6333). all to the wheels.

With supporting upgrades, the "stock" Pettit kit makes about 260.
Very few people have gotten the smaller pulley to work correctly, but with similar supporting upgrades, it'll make about 300.

The Hymee kit will be about the same.

dondo 05-21-2010 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3569178)
With supporting upgrades, the "stock" Pettit kit makes about 260.
Very few people have gotten the smaller pulley to work correctly, but with similar supporting upgrades, it'll make about 300.

The Hymee kit will be about the same.

it's a bigger crank pulley not a smaller blower pulley, right?

yes, and those guys needed to upgrade injectors, etc. to get the higher numbers.

alnielsen 05-21-2010 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3569116)
I'll take a bet that Mark is just underpromising and the kit will do better than this ......

Mark last visited here on 4/14. I have sent emails without a reply. Does anyone know what is happing with him?

tubingchamp 05-21-2010 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3569208)
Mark last visited here on 4/14. I have sent emails without a reply. Does anyone know what is happing with him?

He's busy as hell.

^^

I communicate with him via E-mail. Received 3 e-mails in said period of time.

Takes a few days for him to respond. Finalizing everything and getting it ready, he's under a lot of stress :)

speedy33 05-21-2010 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3569208)
Mark last visited here on 4/14. I have sent emails without a reply. Does anyone know what is happing with him?

He send me an email 2hrs ago.
i think he is a very busy man at the moment :smoker:

MazdaManiac 05-21-2010 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by dondo (Post 3569195)
it's a bigger crank pulley not a smaller blower pulley, right?

Probably. I don't know.
Either way, it changes the ratio.


Originally Posted by dondo (Post 3569195)
yes, and those guys needed to upgrade injectors, etc. to get the higher numbers.

And water/meth and a better bypass valve and a better MAF setup and proper EVAP plumbing and a better tensioner, etc...

MazdaManiac 05-21-2010 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Hymee (Post 500206)

Stuff on the bench, thinking about basic parts we need to make to get it running:
http://www.hymee.com/rx8/images/Dscn6350.jpg

Not busting on Mark (just getting a chuckle):

This is one of my favorite pictures and one that everybody that contemplates should look at for a long time.
Note that "parts to get it running" include rotors.

Brettus 05-21-2010 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3569244)
.
Note that "parts to get it running" include rotors.

:yelrotflm yep - need those

dondo 05-21-2010 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3569242)
Probably. I don't know.
Either way, it changes the ratio.



And water/meth and a better bypass valve and a better MAF setup and proper EVAP plumbing and a better tensioner, etc...

correct.

yes, water/meth. the better billet bypass valve is included now i think.

maf setup: better how?
evap plumbing: what makes it proper?
what's wrong with the tensioner? i know the nut didn't tighten very well but that was an easy fix.

Aerohead 05-22-2010 01:33 PM

Didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest with people bustin' on Mark about power claims. We'll know the final numbers when we see full dyno curves. He did tell us that these latest numbers were on a dyno that connects to the wheels directly (no tires contacting rolling drums). Then there's all the correction factors that must be applied to get true 'apples to apples' performance numbers...besides the dyno's all spin backwards down under anyway, right :mdrmed:

That all being said, this kit for me is all about driveability and reliability. I just want the power band of the RX pushed up about 50%, with the same shape and throttle response. Plus I want it to last for 100k miles. This isn't about smokin' the tires and ultimate whp...that's what my 600+hp Shelby GT500 is for.:rock:

MazdaManiac 05-22-2010 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Aerohead (Post 3569981)
I just want the power band of the RX pushed up about 50%, with the same shape and throttle response. Plus I want it to last for 100k miles.

lol

"Just".

Aerohead 05-22-2010 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3570007)
lol

"Just".

"About 50%"...and I shoud be more specific and say I just want the torque curve shifted up by "about" 50%. Most stock cars put down about 140-150ft-lbs to the wheels...if I get to a peak of 210-220ft-lbs at the wheels, I'm happy. Peak power of 240-250 rwhp is about 40% above most stock dyno's I've seen.

I spend a lot more time driving near the torque peak than the power peak, so that's what's I'm focused on improving, hence the SC approach. Not trying to start a SC vs. turbo argument again. I'm personally biased towards the low end response you get from boost curves created by a SC.

Brettus 05-22-2010 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Aerohead (Post 3570166)
I'm personally biased towards the low end response you get from boost curves created by a SC.

Just curious , where in the dyno curve plotted below do you see the Pettit low end being superior to any of the turbos .?

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...8/FIchart4.jpg

paulmasoner 05-22-2010 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Aerohead (Post 3570166)
I'm personally biased towards the low end response you get from boost curves created by a SC.

http://static.rcgroups.com/forums/at...m-facepalm.jpg

Aerohead 05-22-2010 07:07 PM

As I said, I'm not trying to argue SC vs. Turbo. I've owned and installed both (BMW 335i, 911Turbo, WRX STi, Subaru Legacy Turbo, Shelby GT500 , Miata w/SC)....

I believe Mark's SC kit suits my requirements better than any of the turbo kits available. WOT Dyno curves don't tell you how a car responds to throttle inputs or 'feels' on the road/track. I personally perfer the SC approach.

Enough said....

olddragger 05-22-2010 09:49 PM

it is nice to have choices-- i remember the days when we didnt.
OD

swoope 05-22-2010 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 3570347)
it is nice to have choices-- i remember the days when we didnt.
OD

really?

choices.

what are they? pettit.

and someone let me know what else.. just saying,

and i really want to go into super dick mode, but prudent.

beers :beer:

pdxhak 05-23-2010 12:16 AM

I bet he meant FI in general. As for SC kits, there is the procharger version as well.

swoope 05-23-2010 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 3570441)
I bet he meant FI in general. As for SC kits, there is the procharger version as well.

ok,

post up a fi system that you can buy now.. sc or turbo..

really..

procharger is missing in action.. in the usa. and the rest of the world as far as i can tell.

right now pettit is is.

btw, tuning is part of the kit.

really.

beers :beer:

Jedi54 05-23-2010 12:33 AM

Mazdatrix lists the procharger on their site.
it's not for sale?
:scratchhe


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