Wanganrx8

I had a similar problem, when i would be in high boost for an extended period of time my check engine light would flash and i would feel a loss of power, it eventually started happening in low boost too. now i know that you had injectors, but did you have a fuel pump too? after i upgraded my fuel system the problem seemed to stop. do you think that in any way it could of been your fuel pump crappin' out on you?

lesper4

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man sorry to hear that fanman, yoru car alwasy sounded great. you said you are butting a rebuilt motor in (rx8 motor)?

x-ped

Yeah really sorry to hear about your car, you've invested so much time and money into the turbo and to have it blow up just sucks. Anyways stick in there and hope for the best.

m4f1050

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I heard they have emmision recalls which break the renessis even without turbo, my old '04 is in the dealer for new motor (from a recall...)

lazi

sorry to hear wut happend fanman =(

Fanman

I don't think so. A few months ago when they put the injectors in, there was no problems whatsoever. I had put the injectors in with the intention of going to higher boost and around 300 whp, but I was only at 6.5 psi. Not sure if my fuel system is going, but I'll check it when I put the new engine in. Thanks for the suggestion.

Fanman

Thanks, for the posts people. I'm bummed right now, but I think I'm just going to go back to NA, and play with it from there. I don't need 300 whp, at the sacrifice of everyday drivability & reliability. Some have gotten it, but I never did. So I would just rather have 200 whp, and (hopefully) have it OEM reliable.

I'm not the type of owner that wanted to keep on playing with my car (and yet look at it now). When I first got the kit, I was expecting it to be a full run out of the box kit. Some people don't mind about little shortcomings, and they like working on their car, and upgrading things. That was not me. I wanted to buy the kit, have my mechanic put it on, and just have it run right and if it gave me "only" 60-70 hp gain but was easy to install with everyday drivability that would have been fine. Unfortunately it was one issue after another. Some owners don't mind that, they like working on their car. I am not one of those type of owners, and in the end, it was a bit (OK, a lot) disappointing to me. I'm just going back to NA, and hopefully enjoying the car again.

california style

sorry again to hear you are so bummed.....

I'm totally with you on the "no tinkering" desires.

I want some simple strap on HP. with total reliability, and no hassles.

I hope new enginje and so on and then some nice driving in the 8 restores your love of your car......

Razz1

Are you gonna update your signature to Kaboom Greddy Turbo?

After they killed you with that defective Emanage, shortage of parts in kit, wasted your time and frustrated you with **** poor service and lack of acknowledgement of a poorly designed kit.

Skiptomylue

yeah it does greatly suck, im hoping it wasnt 100 percent due to the Turbo,
i dont think the greddy is the best out there.. actaully i think its the worst, but for pretty good gains, and all/most problems have been fixed with easy fixes, its the cheapest bet for power, considering the amount the other kits are..
yes i know they are all so "complete" but not everyone can afford that, and maybe with that much power the 8 becomes very impracticle, i was thinking about the greddy, just becuase i cant justify droping 10-13k for a turbo, maybe the S/c, but not the mazsport.. not yet anywyas

mysql101

How would the turbo blow the engine?


What are you saying? You'd drop 13k for a 80 whp gain, but you wouldn't drop 13k for a 200 whp gain?

Fanman

Thanks man. I actually have a almost new engine coming out from Georgia. Should be here by the beginning of next week. Appreciate your offer though. Maybe next time (if I don't kill myself if I blow another engine)

guitarjunkie28

no prob.
if you want help on the install, i'm getting fast.

Sapphonica

You'll be able to get into one of their kits for less. The price difference between Mazsport & GReddy is really only a couple of thousand bucks.

For the GReddy, don't forget to add in the extra $$$ for a BOV and other mods to make the kit functional. If you install it yourself you'll save some coin, but if not that's another $1k. Oh, and if you want more than stock boost, which also falls off above 6000 RPM without a boost controller, you'll have to drop more coin for that too. Oh, and tuning. One last thing, keep $5k or so set aside for when you blow your engine and have to replace it.

Hmmm...I think the Mazsport kit is cheaper after all.

Romeo

I live by the 5 and the 134.
I too have a Greddy kit.
Maybe you can come by sometime and give me an estimate to when MY engine will blow

/knocks on wood.

.. but seriously.

-RoM

Skiptomylue

er. no. from what i hear, most of the greddys problems have to do with shitty Housing and what not.. stuff that wont cost an extra 8k to get, specially for what i use it for...
ok.. so why should i have to do Keep aside 5k incase i blow my engine..
So your saying greddy Blows peoples engines up? or poorly tuned cars blow them up? becuase if you are saying the greddy Blows engines up then you and Mysql101 Should talk becuase right above you he asks how it could be the turbos fault the engine blew up. so. your wrong on that count,
if it was the turbos fault, then any turbo could blow the engine up,
why is everyone jumping on me...becuase i disagree with RG, (not even disagree, i just think if people dont try to go ape **** on the greddy and get all the power the can from it, it c ould be a decent upgrade for power for the cost) people arnt aloud to have different opinions anymore?
please tell me where i stated that Greddy was better then mazsports? DERP, you cant, i even said greddy is prolly the wrost kit out there, but for what it does, it was the best bang for the buck IMO (untill i checked the greddy website and they are asking 5k for it... i alwasy thought it was 2-3k..?)
anbd yes tuning and install would cost a lot., but it would cost an extra bit on the Mazsports as well!on top of the 8k + tax for the turbo kit (assuming you get the stage 2)

punishr

I happen to be in that 1% that got their motor replaced, and I just rolled 2500 miles on the new motor and I just had to take it back to mazda due to lack of power and DSC problems. The last three times this happened was on the old motor and old original ECU program that came with the car when I bought it in August of 03. All of these times they said that the plugs were fouled and that the coil packs were firing backwards out of the packs causing current to mess with the surrounding wiring and electronics including the DSC system.
Yes I drove the car for three years without ever getting the ECU reflashed. I did this because every time after Mazda would replace my coil packs and spark plugs my car ran great. In fact it ran better than most any other RX8 out there. At least for about 7k miles then I would have to take it back in for the plugs and sometimes the packs again.

I have had numerous problems besides that with the old motor including, fouling plugs, burnt coil packs, flooding, stalling, slow to crank, lack of power, etc. but with the new Starter, Battery, MOTOR, Plugs, Reflash for the OMP, and for the Fuel trim on start up, that came out of the recall a couple of months ago.

I have only had the lack of power problem with the DSC system flashing the traction control light and the ABS light at me since the recall was performed, but then again it has only been 2500 miles.

I have tried to keep all of my problems off of this board because Mazda has been talking about replacing my car with an '07, in fact, there are 2 engineers from Mazda Japan over here right now trying to figure out what is going on with my car and if they can't then that is what they have mentioned to me to basically help keep me quiet about the problems even after the recall. But enough is enough.

I will keep you guys updated and let yall know what they end up telling me.
P.S. I took them the car on Friday, Nov. 17th and they haven't called me yet.

Punishr

punishr

Sorry for posting this here but I was merely trying to let Fanman know that It might not have anything to do with the turbo at all.
BTW Fanman, how many miles did you have on the car when this happened?

And yes I will start my own thread.

Punishr

swoope

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the turbo does not blow the engine... bad tuning does... and bad tuning is on the blue greedy and the new emu...

most greedys that run well are running the greedy kit 3k + bov +200 + cepterx +1500 + tuning ~ 300bucks.

that puts you at 5k. and it might run ok.... so for the extra ~ 2.5k you get injectors that work. fuel pump that will work. a system that you dont have to spend hours of research to fix... and will produce way over 300 hp. a turbo that is sized right for the motor.. an intake that does not suck hot air from under the hood...

o and customer support... i would love to know how much most people have sunk into a greedy kit to get it to work ok.... and i know of few that have them running well...

funny how trying to save money costs more..

food for thought...

and fanman this is not aimed at you. you did it right!!!!


beers

Fanman

FYI, in most engines I might agree that poor tuning might be a big reason for it, but just too much random stuff are going on with these engines (as Punisher pointed out above too).

I had a better EMU than pretty much anybody here on the board, so it definitely wasn't an EManage Blue. I had the car dyno tuned with more runs than I can count to dial it in, with one of the best shops on the West Coast (that currently has 4 rotaries they are building up right now), with one of the best mechanics in the country with the EMU & rotaries doing the tuning. So sometimes no matter what you do, you can blame the tuning, you can blame the kit, just this engine is all over the place. I might have been one of those that ran this engine NA, and still needed to replace it. Might have been the **** poor kit. Might have been my fuel pump (as another poster alluded to), might have been my coil pack going out. If you are looking for 100% scientific reason why my engine failed couldn't tell you. I'm sure all these other people who have blown their engines, can't specifically pinpoint why they blew their engines either. People have had the Interceptor X and blown their engines. Just the marvel (and frustrations) of this car. Some cars last a few hundred miles after the kit is put in, some have lasted 25,000+ miles.

Fanman

I met you over at Sevenstock man. Though the only thing you had was the K&N unit on your engine. Good luck with the car. Hope yours is one that lasts indefinitely.

Fanman

25,000.

swoope

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funny,

in a bad way... it might be a combo of all.. but i think your motor was doomed with or with out the turbo... i would have loved to have seen how long it would have lasted if you were premixing during the run....

and as i said in my post.... you did it right....

beers

Romeo

Yeah, I went turbo after SevenStock.

We should hang out sometime. PM me.

-RoM

shaunv74

Fanmam: you said you were getting the engine replaced. Any chance you can have your engine taken apart to see what did happen to it. Maybe the guys that were tuning your car could make heads or tails of what happened.