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Old 03-19-2008, 03:40 PM
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Ditto.....that's the path I was trying to go down with Brettus when he fisrt posted about CEL issues. I assume he and Scott will get it all worked out now.....if that's truly the case.
yep - you called it Mazurfer . Now for a fix .........
Have not heard from Scott for a few days - hopefully this new information will help him to a solution .
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Originally Posted by a_ahlan

I am going to check the wiring one more time by doing the following -
Disconnect the mazsport harness labeled "1" from the factory (car's) wiring harness and start the car. Then check L1 spark plug if the spark stopped. This is the only way we can verify if the mazsport coil 1 (no. 1 from the front of the car) is conected to L1 of the factory harness.

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Good idea - how did you get on with that ?
Old 03-19-2008, 06:25 PM
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Brettus and a_ahlan,

I have identified what the issue is and am working on a resolution. Should not effect the way the vehicle runs or drives, just the CEL.

For those following along, these two RHD vehicles are the only RX-8's reporting any CEL's. We have randomly followed up with U.S. customers and have nothing but positive reports!

thanks guys, Scott
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Engine stalled

Engine stalled and then wouldn't start at all. I am towing th car back to my residence. It looks like none of the coils are firing. I will be able to inspect closely in a few hours and provide more updates. There is no mazda dealership in my country and the RX-8 is JDM imported from Japan. Therefore I will have to find a solution myself.
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does anybody know the wiring diagram for this coil?

OEM(from front to rear) to coil solution(color) what length of wire plugs
4 blue/orange (T2) ? ?
3 yellow/grey (L2) ?? ??
2 White (T1) ??? ???
1 Green (L1 ???? ????

i just want to make sure that i connect the right diagram.....if anybody knows, please post them.......i would appreciate it.......
thank you
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What you want can be found in post #824 of this thread.
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As for the MS harness to NEW coils I was told by Scott the LAST connector goes to the FIRST coil (L1) and the others follow in order T1,L2,T2 Like the photo in post #431[/QUOTE]

expo, this part, is it the wiring harness that connect the coils to the connection?
and from connection to OEM harness?
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^ that would make too much sense
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Engine Stall Problem

Scott, the fuse was the first thing I checked it was fine. It seems that the Ignitor completely shuts down and therefore the coils don't fire. After I disconnected the battery and reset the ECU the engine started fine. I was relieved & thought the problem was gone. But later it happened again 2 kms into the drive cycle and the engine just wouldn't start. At one point I thought maybe it was low voltage from the battery, so tried to jump start but still wouldnt start. then I disconnected the battery and reconnected again. The car's been running fine since then. Also I noticed, after the ECU reset, the ECU takes quite a long time to learn to stabilize the idle. This time I drove the car for an hour before I shut down the engine.
The problem is intermittent and I have no clue when it will happen again. The ignitor is my "suspect".
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i got my car back, runs fine, pulls strong. no surging in power, so i assume it was just the pcm being reset.

something i noticed when i first installed it though, and again today. did anyone else notice a change in sound? even an ex said it sounds different. it sounds rumblier. more rumble. i dunno, does that make sense?
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Originally Posted by kersh4w
i got my car back, runs fine, pulls strong. no surging in power, so i assume it was just the pcm being reset.

something i noticed when i first installed it though, and again today. did anyone else notice a change in sound? even an ex said it sounds different. it sounds rumblier. more rumble. i dunno, does that make sense?
I noticed the change in sound too....& I like it better.
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agreed.
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i think scott has been busy lately. he will answer the question by night time i believe.
i need to talk to him too, but they are busy in the shop.....
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good luck to you guys with your issues..

still waiting for mine..
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guys i have a question about this coils....
have you guys ever put the wrong plug wires? for example, there are 4 size, the long one is on leading 2 instead of leading 1....or other type of mix....?????? does it prevent the car from starting up? because i was just debating with my mechanic about the size of the wire plugs...what are the reason that they have different size of wire plugs?
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Originally Posted by halimsteven
what are the reason that they have different size of wire plugs?
Because Leading #2 is further away from the coils than Trailing #1. There is no reason to have any slack in the wires.
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Originally Posted by halimsteven
guys i have a question about this coils....
have you guys ever put the wrong plug wires? for example, there are 4 size, the long one is on leading 2 instead of leading 1....or other type of mix....?????? does it prevent the car from starting up? because i was just debating with my mechanic about the size of the wire plugs...what are the reason that they have different size of wire plugs?
Just make sure the correct coil is attached to the correct plug. That is what is important. The length of the wires is just to neaten up the engine bay and make sure you don't have too much excess wire everywhere.
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Originally Posted by a_ahlan
Scott, the fuse was the first thing I checked it was fine. It seems that the Ignitor completely shuts down and therefore the coils don't fire. After I disconnected the battery and reset the ECU the engine started fine. I was relieved & thought the problem was gone. But later it happened again 2 kms into the drive cycle and the engine just wouldn't start. At one point I thought maybe it was low voltage from the battery, so tried to jump start but still wouldnt start. then I disconnected the battery and reconnected again. The car's been running fine since then. Also I noticed, after the ECU reset, the ECU takes quite a long time to learn to stabilize the idle. This time I drove the car for an hour before I shut down the engine.
The problem is intermittent and I have no clue when it will happen again. The ignitor is my "suspect".
Please double check that BOTH ground connection are clean and tight.

This is Very Important!
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^^
Good point!! Intermittent electrical problems usually stem from bad grounding...
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Originally Posted by expo1
Because Leading #2 is further away from the coils than Trailing #1. There is no reason to have any slack in the wires.
because they said that 21" has to plug into L1 and 20" into T1, 17.25 for L2, adn 14.25 for T2. i don't know, my mechanic got tired of trying the coils many times, i think i have to install them my self, to see the wiring, i hope i don't blew the engine... Scott, i need you to back me up...
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a_ahlan

Charge your battery too!

You other guys................

I'm glad you posted first because I didn't want to be laughed at.

Mine rumbles like a Bumble bee.
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Originally Posted by halimsteven
because they said that 21" has to plug into L1 and 20" into T1, 17.25 for L2, adn 14.25 for T2. i don't know, my mechanic got tired of trying the coils many times, i think i have to install them my self, to see the wiring, i hope i don't blew the engine... Scott, i need you to back me up...

interestingly I got 2 x 20" leads and no 21" one . Still worked out OK


Scott any closer to a soln. on the CEL issue ?
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I never measured mine...but they are hellishly long.......???

Scott...how long are they supposed to be?


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