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Old 01-13-2008 | 06:05 PM
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More N/A Dyno Results

I wanted to share recent N/A dyno results with you guys but first some history.

12/28/07 originally posted in another thread

Hey guys, well we went to the dyno tonight with an n/a RX-8 and did a dyno comparison of the coil packs.
We performed a pull with good stock coils (no white markings on the back and had no hesitation on acceleration etc.) and then unplugged the coils and plugged in our new units and did another run. The improved spark does makes a difference as you can see! We did a couple more pulls (same results) then let the car sit with a fan on it for about ten minutes to eliminate some of the heat soak and it did 191rwhp.


The vehicle was running the factory computer with the latest factory flash. I hope this helps answer any questions you have. As always thanks for your interest, Scott

Update! Back on the rollers!

We returned to the dyno with the same vehicle and using the same fuel.
This time we installed the Interceptor-X EMS and did some tuning. The combination picked up 20 rear wheel peak horsepower but as the graph shows an overall improvement was accomplished and was as high as 25rwhp at about 8500rpm. When you are running the vehicle hard and shifting at say 9,000rpm the tachometer will drop 1500 to 2000 rpm depending on the specific gear, final gear ratio, tire size etc. In a side by side racing situation these two cars would accelerate at a noticeably different rate.

The improved engine tuning using the Interceptor-X E.M.S. combined with the improved spark has made a significant difference in the acceleration and the overall vehicle feel.
For those of you thinking about the upgrade path to forced induction keep in mind these are two modifications you will need once you get there and will provide some noticeable gain until that time comes.

Thanks for your coninued support and interest in Mazsport and our products, Scott
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Old 01-13-2008 | 06:16 PM
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wow and i just bought the updated coils! i should have waited for these results.
Old 01-13-2008 | 06:23 PM
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Does this mean I will need an upgraded map for my int-x once I install my mazport ignition solution?
Old 01-13-2008 | 06:42 PM
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Great news - kind of what I was expecting to see .

Was the tuning just AFR's or did you make some timing changes as well ?
Old 01-13-2008 | 06:47 PM
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When comparing to just the 'x' tuning without the coils the only improvement seems to be lower in the rev range - is that about right Scott ?
Old 01-13-2008 | 06:52 PM
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Some ignition timing Brettus but mostly fueling.
Old 01-13-2008 | 06:56 PM
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Does this mean I will need an upgraded map for my int-x once I install my mazport ignition solution?
Your WB02 will tell the tale but I will be happy to share any changes I find on the dyno with you.
Old 01-13-2008 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
When comparing to just the 'x' tuning without the coils the only improvement seems to be lower in the rev range - is that about right Scott ?
Mostly 4000 to 7500 for the significant gains, some peak as well but this combo works the best.
Old 01-13-2008 | 08:14 PM
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lol... finally... well guys i once again had the opportunity to have the car tuned again by scott... let me tell this car now is so much fun to drive... there is pick up everywhere... in the upper rpms (7000- 9000) the car pulls so hard... it really wants to just take off... overall i believe this should be the direction for every single person expecting to stay n/a and i think everyone who is going to turbo the car they should run this stuff in the mean time..


to recap... the car is significantly more powerful

scott thank you for producing such great products
Old 01-13-2008 | 08:21 PM
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yes but can it pwn a 350z and s2k ?
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Originally Posted by MazsportScott
Your WB02 will tell the tale but I will be happy to share any changes I find on the dyno with you.
That would be fantastic!

Should I email you for that info?
Old 01-14-2008 | 10:15 AM
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I agree and have run the InterceptorX EMS and Ignition Upgrade on my RX8 for a while.....

I feel this is a great mod for your NA 8 if you consider $$ vs. gains and the other options out there.
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so lets say im making 195hp with this add ++??

Was this RX8 completely stock?
Old 01-15-2008 | 02:52 AM
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The above dyno graph is a bone stock rx8 with upgraded ignition solution and interceptor-x ems only.
Old 01-15-2008 | 11:14 AM
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so lets say im making 195hp with this add ++??
It may add 0hp. It could be the car in question was lacking in areas the mods fixed. For a car not-lacking in those areas, the gains may be non-existent, because there's nothing to fix. KnowwhatImean?




My car made 198whp (on the previous engine) w/ Intake/Exhaust. Some cars just need more tuning to get where Mazda SHOULD have had the cars originally.
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Originally Posted by dmp
It may add 0hp. It could be the car in question was lacking in areas the mods fixed. For a car not-lacking in those areas, the gains may be non-existent, because there's nothing to fix. KnowwhatImean?




My car made 198whp (on the previous engine) w/ Intake/Exhaust. Some cars just need more tuning to get where Mazda SHOULD have had the cars originally.
Disagree - the ignition system is a known weak point so it should make a difference to power no matter what the engine was putting out before .
The dyno shown for the stock coils appears to indicate that the coils were in good condition - I've seen plenty of dynos on here where they were in bad condition and the affect is pretty obvious .
So if the OEM coils are in good condition and the only thing that is changed is the upgraded coils - we should still see a power increase no matter what other mods the engine has .
Old 01-15-2008 | 04:21 PM
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is this a plug and play app.? or do i have to hook it up to a pc and mess with it? i ask cause im computer illiterate... and i dont want to blow up my car
Old 01-15-2008 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Disagree - the ignition system is a known weak point so it should make a difference to power no matter what the engine was putting out before .
The dyno shown for the stock coils appears to indicate that the coils were in good condition - I've seen plenty of dynos on here where they were in bad condition and the affect is pretty obvious .
I'm still skeptical. My car made ~ that much power - with a similar curve. I'm not talking 'bad' coils - but other-than-fantastic coils.

so if the OEM coils are in good condition and the only thing that is changed is the upgraded coils - we should still see a power increase no matter what other mods the engine has .
Unless one's engine is already running as good as the one w/ the mods.

But...did I mention I'm a skeptic? :D

:beers: to ya, mate.
Old 01-15-2008 | 04:45 PM
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is this a plug and play app.? or do i have to hook it up to a pc and mess with it? i ask cause im computer illiterate... and i dont want to blow up my car
It seems from their website that it is plug and play. I think I'm going to look into this for myself...

See this and see what you think.

http://www.mazsport.net/store/index....t_detail&p=140
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I have the same questions as DMP. I want to see some NA mods that push car well above 200 whp. 225whp would impress me.

Please note this is not knocking these coils or the tuning because a "real" gain occurred for this specific car. But I want to see NA mods that push the car beyond what many feel it should have came with in the first place.
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Originally Posted by dmp
I'm still skeptical. My car made ~ that much power - with a similar curve. I'm not talking 'bad' coils - but other-than-fantastic coils.



Unless one's engine is already running as good as the one w/ the mods.

But...did I mention I'm a skeptic? :D

:beers: to ya, mate.
well we will have quite a few people to test them so we will see . I know my coils are good and motor is strong and I will do some scanalyser runs to see what the differences are .

Beers to you too
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So purchasing the Ignition Kit and Int-X will come with a base map? At least to get 90% of the way. User can choose to custom tune for the remaining 10%/optimal settings?
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I gained 10% with tuning alone. So your gains might be even more.
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So purchasing the Ignition Kit and Int-X will come with a base map? At least to get 90% of the way. User can choose to custom tune for the remaining 10%/optimal settings?
Yep!
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Hey Scott, do you guys have any idea when you will be shipping out the orders that were placed?


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