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Old 07-16-2008 | 03:52 PM
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awesome numbers, how much did it cost you with labor if you don't mind me asking?
Old 07-16-2008 | 04:09 PM
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Personally, I wish I had access to information about people who blew their engine with just too much power. Overheating, leaning out, and poor quality fuel aside, I couldn't even guess what the Renesis is capable of. Personally, I think it'll out last the trans but it's just a guess. When I go for my first real tuning next week, I'm leaning heavily on just doing a solid 10 psi rather than aiming for a HP number and seeing where I'm at. Then I can push it later.

I'd like to see you run a 12.XX in the car as even as a poor drag platform, 12s is a quick car.
Old 07-16-2008 | 04:19 PM
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I had detonation at 12 psi and the seals took no damage. Might be luck of the draw, but I haven't seen any issue with the seals. Any force that damages the stock ones would damage the engine regardless of seal type.
Old 07-16-2008 | 04:27 PM
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I couldn't even guess what the Renesis is capable of.
Much more than most on this board has seen.
Old 07-16-2008 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by T-ReX-8
Can some body.. anybody take one of these dyno queen cars to a track please...
VIDEO 30 - 147 MPH in ~13 seconds.

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Yea he did the tuning. With some help from Jeff of course. This was the first RX8 theyve done. I think they did a great job!
Glad it worked out.

I cleaned up your plot, but it is still basically useless - the axis are not calibrated to any useful number and the two plotted lines aren't even sharing that axis correctly.
Please ask Dave for another copy With torque and horsepower on the vertical axis.

I'd like to be able to finally add an Esmiril graph to the comparison page, but I can't do it with this.

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Old 07-16-2008 | 04:32 PM
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I had detonation at 12 psi and the seals took no damage. Might be luck of the draw, but I haven't seen any issue with the seals. Any force that damages the stock ones would damage the engine regardless of seal type.
That is true but detonation at 12psi isnt as bad as detonation at 16psi or 25 for that matter. Because of the compression ratio it can crack an apex seal because they cant take an impact. This is the same thing that happens to the RX-7 and the reason people get into apex seals. You need a stronger base metal so that it wont have to be heat treated to the point where it is too brittle to have the necessary strength and can take an impact or heat. A warped apex seal(the generally will sag in the middle when they don't break) due to detonation or running lean will make the engine loose power without destroying your housing, plate or rotor. Not to mention that it will take a whole lot more detonation to permanently bend the apex because it will be a little more forgiving.

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Originally Posted by jiggawha1
awesome numbers, how much did it cost you with labor if you don't mind me asking?
with install of just the turbo kit and tuning....around 1500 dollars...very respectable
Old 07-16-2008 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by maxxdamigz
I'd like to see you run a 12.XX in the car as even as a poor drag platform, 12s is a quick car.
Are you saying you don't think 340 whp in this car will yield a high 12 1/4? IDK but on the street with no VHT...i was right with my buddy....who has taken his to the 1/4 and ran high 12's

I mightve read it wrong tho...I wannna take it to the track, and will sometime soon
Old 07-16-2008 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
VIDEO 30 - 147 MPH in ~13 seconds.



Glad it worked out.

I cleaned up your plot, but it is still basically useless - the axis are not calibrated to any useful number and the two plotted lines aren't even sharing that axis correctly.
Please ask Dave for another copy With torque and horsepower on the vertical axis.

I'd like to be able to finally add an Esmiril graph to the comparison page, but I can't do it with this.


Alright, I will talk to him, I forgot to today.
Old 07-16-2008 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by importshowoff84
Are you saying you don't think 340 whp in this car will yield a high 12 1/4? IDK but on the street with no VHT...i was right with my buddy....who has taken his to the 1/4 and ran high 12's

I mightve read it wrong tho...I wannna take it to the track, and will sometime soon
It might, but suspension/tires has a lot to do with your numbers. Also we don't have a solid rear axle in our car so you're going to get wheel hop and not a very good launch. Not that it's impossible, but it takes practice.

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Old 07-16-2008 | 07:48 PM
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Wheel hop is eliminated with struts/coilover and a stiffer rear sway bar. Both of Which Louie's car has.
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Then your gonna roast the tires for sure then. Didn't read his long paragraph-like sig of mods so I didn't know he had coilovers and rear sway bar.

Take vids if you do run this at the drag strip.

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Old 07-16-2008 | 08:14 PM
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Ill def take a vid of it when i go....gotta wait for this session of summer classes to end though because they are on the same nights as test and tune by me...at route 66 raceway
Old 07-16-2008 | 08:18 PM
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What night is the Rt 66 test and tune?
Old 07-16-2008 | 08:21 PM
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Oh yeah, I have a question about your injectors. You are running the 380/380/1000 injector setup, right? If so, are your 1000cc injectors high or low impedence? If you don't know the Esmeril guys might.

I am trying to figure out if the interceptor can handle high and low impedence injectors "ganged" together on the same driver and I can't seem to get a response from Scott.
Old 07-17-2008 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tdiddy
Oh yeah, I have a question about your injectors. You are running the 380/380/1000 injector setup, right? If so, are your 1000cc injectors high or low impedence? If you don't know the Esmeril guys might.

I am trying to figure out if the interceptor can handle high and low impedence injectors "ganged" together on the same driver and I can't seem to get a response from Scott.
Test and tune is on Tuesdays.....

Yes, I am running with the bigger injector setup, but I don't know about the impedence. Maybe call Dave at Werks cuz this setup pretty well, if not then just try chris
Old 07-17-2008 | 08:33 AM
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I was talking to Jim at JPR and we guestimated my 8 at 350 whp (this was prior to install - where I'm at on my first tune will likely be lower) could crack 12s if I was a good driver. But, then again, it's just a guess really.
Old 07-17-2008 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by maxxdamigz
The hp and tq curves have to be scaled against different Y axis values. The dyno print is tough to read. Either way, nice numbers.
Yeah, they will always be equal at 5252 by definition. The chart I got for my dyno from PAW has the same goofy format. Louis - let me know if they are able to reformat it for you. I'd like to get a copy of mine in the proper format.
Old 07-17-2008 | 02:16 PM
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I wonder if we can even run 15 PSI on Cali Gas
Old 07-17-2008 | 02:27 PM
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I can run 15 PSI on Arizona gas which is the same thing.
However, it depends on charge temperatures and density, not pressure.

In the Summer, you won't be able to do it without detonation control.
Old 07-17-2008 | 02:31 PM
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amen............>.<
Old 07-18-2008 | 05:09 PM
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HAHAHAHAHA....well...welcome me to the BEND OVER TAKE IT IN THE *** YOUR F'ED YOUR ENGINE IS DONE CLUB!!!!!!!! WOW!!!! Life couldn't possibly get any better. Its driveable...just VERY low compression ...like around 75 I think is what they told me
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Its gettin back to stock as we speak and then Ill see if I can get the dealership to give me a new one.
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Queen wrote a song about this ....
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They have any thoughts on the cause?


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