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D1GT-x8 06-21-2005 08:45 PM

i think that i'll be able to get better higher hp numbers than the dyno run they recently had. my reasons are the original car had 2.50 inch exhaust piping and the turbokit. thats was about it. i will have the 304SS cat delition pipe, 3 in exhaust system, 10% larger turbo internals, and the water injection system. so....... im not promising, but i think we'll be able to see 345 or 350. but well just have to wait t=for the dyno numbers

D1GT-x8 06-21-2005 08:50 PM

and it'll take them 5 days min. for install. so patients my friend

slaxer07 06-21-2005 09:09 PM

Take it off for warranty work?? Sounds like B/S to me. But hope everything goes as planned for you on monday. Good Luck. Can't wait to hear the results.

Hybrid-RX8 06-21-2005 09:37 PM

what is going to be the engine management solution?

JeRKy 8 Owner 06-22-2005 12:10 AM

Why am I not surprised? "Another week."

davefzr 06-22-2005 12:15 AM

Whats even more rediculous is the fact that this thread has been in existance since June 3rd so that must mean that his installation date must have been set before this date. Why would they accept more cars to work on knowing that they have to install a turbo kit for this guys RX8? Poor resource allocation? Hmmmmmm Ya Think?

SSR Engineering 06-22-2005 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by slaxer07
Take it off for warranty work?? Sounds like B/S to me. But hope everything goes as planned for you on monday. Good Luck. Can't wait to hear the results.

I personally took it off of the vehicle :)

We're going to run the pretuned TSI ECU

D1GT-x8 06-22-2005 07:57 AM

well the rx8 that came out of nowhere friday. and they ferrari has has been there for a while now, the owner just didnt pick it up. thats not the problem. it was the short staffing

D1GT-x8 06-22-2005 07:59 AM

hey ssr where you the one under the lift. i think i spoke to you. i didnt know ssr guys was there to help out.

Red Devil 06-22-2005 09:22 AM

No point in ripping the guy or SFR, that gets us nowhere.

Keep us posted and I'm sure it's already been said, but let's take a look at the dyno sheet when you're done.

D1GT-x8 06-22-2005 08:22 PM

thanks you. we need more moral support like red devil...hahahaha. like i said ill keep it posted

vegas RX8 06-22-2005 10:36 PM

Yeah D1GT-x8, keep us posted. I know I will be getting a turbo in the future (2 years). Really interested to see how much hp and torque you get out of the SFR/SSR. Good luck.vegas.

D1GT-x8 06-26-2005 05:19 AM

talked to sfr today and they wanted me to come in tuesday morning at 930 finally.

NoTears316 06-26-2005 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by D1GT-x8
talked to sfr today and they wanted me to come in tuesday morning at 930 finally.


You sure are taking this well... If I had driven over 400 miles to Phoenix like SSR wanted me too, and they pulled this stunt, I would have been pretty pissed off.

army_rx8 06-26-2005 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by D1GT-x8
talked to sfr today and they wanted me to come in tuesday morning at 930 finally.

hehe good luck...and take pictures :D:D:D

D1GT-x8 06-27-2005 12:40 AM

Haha But I Dont Drive 400 Miles. I Only Drive 15 Mile Thats Why I Chose Them To Be More Convinient. And Plus They Waited For Me To Pay For The System. Its Only A Week. Plus They Really Hooked Me Up On The Install Too.

evilbada1 06-28-2005 01:59 PM

So installation is finally taking place??
I'm eager to see the results..

D1GT-x8 06-28-2005 04:33 PM

yes it is time. just got back from the shop. cant wait. he said by friday it'll be done.but i dont expect it back till monday. but if i get it earlier i'll let everybody know. oh by the way i added the test tipe to the system today. got everything in the system besides the ball bearing turbo. since shrawf car got bad reviews at speed magazine(not that im knocking him). lets see how i can represent the 8s.

davefzr 06-28-2005 04:43 PM

I guess the shrawf was not with him.. Too bad....

Sapphonica 06-28-2005 06:47 PM

Yikes! This thing is expensive!!!

vegas RX8 06-28-2005 06:59 PM

tic toc tic toc, is it done yet? is it done yet? man I cant wait to here that shit. vegas.

D1GT-x8 06-29-2005 07:31 AM

weel like i said. theyre planing to finish friday but i wonuldnt be suprise to see it done monday or tuesday. since its july 4th. but like i said ill keep you posted

D1GT-x8 06-29-2005 07:35 AM

i just totaled up the price on their website, and cot damn i got a good deal

evilbada1 06-29-2005 05:49 PM

you should've gotten the ball bearing!!!!

NoTears316 06-29-2005 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by D1GT-x8
i just totaled up the price on their website, and cot damn i got a good deal

Hopefully the money you saved wont have to go towards a new engine... keeping my fingers crossed for ya. Keep us informed.

D1GT-x8 06-30-2005 08:00 AM

well i was gonna get the ball bearing but sfr told me that he would rather prefer me not to because it was detonating to quickly. he told me that they actually had to force LAG in the system because it was creating a knock. trust me i really wanted it . but i know that if they turned money down. then they really mean that i didnt need it.

D1GT-x8 06-30-2005 08:07 AM

well yesterday i stopped by the shop because they couldnt find my wheel lock key. i couldve sworn it was in the car but i looked every where and it wasnt. they had to take the front right wheel of because it was getting in the way of the manifold and they couldnt install it. by the time i got there the mechanic "ed" had left for the day. so that was a day wasted. but so far they got the piggyback wired up. turbo is in but not the manifold. and also the intake was on also. theytold me that they'll try to push it friday. but if not then tuesday it is. which is fine with me because i still owe him a grand, and planning to pay him on friday.

dmp 06-30-2005 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by D1GT-x8
he told me that they actually had to force LAG in the system because it was creating a knock.

Somebody explain this to me?

D1GT-x8 06-30-2005 08:10 AM

oh yeah i got a question for you guys. would i have to break the turbo in. or is it just plug and play. if it is whats the distance for break in period

Red Devil 06-30-2005 08:57 AM

The comment about "knock" is a bit concerning.

Let SFR tell you what to do as far as break-in or not since it's their kit.

guitarjunkie28 06-30-2005 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by D1GT-x8
and also the intake was on also.


like me, you probably work for the department of redundancy department :p

dmp 06-30-2005 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by D1GT-x8
he told me that they actually had to force LAG in the system because it was creating a knock.

Again I say, :wtf: ?

SpeedForceRacing 06-30-2005 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by adrian-1
:confused: that's not a good sign.



The power steering is having a problem as well as sixth gear.Nothing turbo related.The fact is the test car has about 9,000 miles on it and the motor is still very sound.This Renesis motor is pretty stout.I think it is capable of alot more power.


We have also sold quite a few more kits then Danryl originally reported so hopefully soon some of those guys will get on these boards and tell you how everything is going.

SpeedForceRacing 06-30-2005 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Red Devil
The comment about "knock" is a bit concerning.

Let SFR tell you what to do as far as break-in or not since it's their kit.


With the turbo we were using, when boost came in at 4000 rpms, the car started to ping(knock,detonate,etc......)We used a boost control solenoid to bring the boost in a little later which elimiated this situation.ON Danrylls car and all future kits we will be using a larger turbo that has a bit more lag.This will alleviate the problem .


On another note,we will be offering the turbo system with the Emanage in the near future which will save some cash.Unfortunately though, it doesnt have the capabilities of the TSI unit so there will be no water injection system for users of the Emanage system.

slaxer07 06-30-2005 09:21 PM

But isn't the issue lowend torque. I know that isn't a turbos strong point, but still your not giving a chance.

truemagellen 06-30-2005 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedForceRacing
With the turbo we were using, when boost came in at 4000 rpms, the car started to ping(knock,detonate,etc......)We used a boost control solenoid to bring the boost in a little later which elimiated this situation.ON Danrylls car and all future kits we will be using a larger turbo that has a bit more lag.This will alleviate the problem .


On another note,we will be offering the turbo system with the Emanage in the near future which will save some cash.Unfortunately though, it doesnt have the capabilities of the TSI unit so there will be no water injection system for users of the Emanage system.

what about the new Emanage Pro unit? how about with that? it is FAR more advanced

D1GT-x8 07-01-2005 08:04 AM

tim. tim. tim. nice to know you put my name out like that. hahahaha. by the way you know the only one that calls me danryll, since i was on the 3rd grade. cause you got use to that name. i'll let you call me that. but everyone else knows me as RELL

crossbow 07-01-2005 10:09 AM

Wait...if your getting deontation and pinging, wouldn't the correct solution be to retune the car? You method of tweaking the setup seems to be revolving around putting things in till it works, instead of bringing the tune of the mapping to match the hardware.

I guess I'm really confused about whats going on here. There is alot of miscommunication going on. I also don't know very much about forced induction, but what I do know seems to go against the grain of what your doing.

evilbada1 07-01-2005 10:41 AM

agreed

Red Devil 07-01-2005 10:46 AM

My question to the ping issue is, if the SFR kit even comes with larger injectors, can't they flow enough fuel in the lower rev range to prevent this?

Or is it that the turbo is so large that it simply won't develop full boost until 4K anyway?

Also, can you provide more clarification why you don't recommend the ball bearing option? Full boost at 4K as opposed to say 3200 is a definite difference.

Thanks.

D1GT-x8 07-03-2005 02:34 AM

check by the shop today almost everything is on. i got pix but ill probably put it tommorow

D1GT-x8 07-05-2005 12:28 AM

happy 4th guys. sorry i camped out last night and havent gotten any sleep. i'll try to post tommorow. and try to get video on the dyno. as for me im just gonna get knocked out. peyce

Moostafa29 07-05-2005 11:49 AM

Anything?

SpeedForceRacing 07-05-2005 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by crossbow
Wait...if your getting deontation and pinging, wouldn't the correct solution be to retune the car? You method of tweaking the setup seems to be revolving around putting things in till it works, instead of bringing the tune of the mapping to match the hardware.

I guess I'm really confused about whats going on here. There is alot of miscommunication going on. I also don't know very much about forced induction, but what I do know seems to go against the grain of what your doing.



I think their is some misunderstanding...........We did get detonation but only as the boost started to come in.Adding fuel and retarding timing didnt help the situation so we had to alter the way the boost comes on.This ultimately alleviated the problem.

adrian-1 07-05-2005 06:59 PM

What RPM does full boost come at now?

Jon 07-05-2005 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedForceRacing
I think their is some misunderstanding...........We did get detonation but only as the boost started to come in.Adding fuel and retarding timing didnt help the situation so we had to alter the way the boost comes on.This ultimately alleviated the problem.

Can you control timing and fuel at the rpm you were having issues with??

Jon
PTP Motorsports
512-834-8771
Jon@ptpmotorports.com

JeRKy 8 Owner 07-06-2005 12:10 AM

Still not ready?

D1GT-x8 07-06-2005 08:13 AM

picking it up today. i think. the guy that was working on wasnt there so another guy had to finish it up. tim still need go get me an appointment for the dyno shop. he said he'll try to get it by this week if not next. im having problems with my camera so i'll post pix as soon as i get it fixed.

IZoomZoomI 07-06-2005 11:30 AM

great, nows the camera :(

Moostafa29 07-06-2005 08:10 PM

Its been all day now...I hope you're out filming!


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