glad you are back tim!!!!

beers

Tim

I'm glad you decided to repost also!

I'm interested in ANY development of the 8, even though I'm located in the UK.

Please keep us informed.

Thanks

Who cares already, I just want a turbo that's better than the Greddy....whoever impresses me first gets my 5g's. Properly tuned? Maybe worth even more depending on results.

Well I'm waiting.

Tim , Keep going with the good work. Greddy is not my alternative, looking forward to SFR turbo.

5G's ?, Try $7.5+G. Before installation.

not to mention that either one you would want to get tuned for optimum results with your car, which will run even more

willing to push the envolope you must be willing to lick the envolope.



beers

So if SFR was able to get the car to run 350rhp or close to it to, then what would a total cost and a list of mods that would be needed to accommodate the setup?

So be it. I have 10 set aside right now but Greddy is unimpressive and I'm waiting for someone to put something out that impresses me. It's just that I remember reading that SFR or PTP was gonna charge around 5...

PTP said around $5K, SFR/SSR is $7.5K.

Someone should introduce SFR to the "ignore" function of the forum. Then they don't have to read any of the posts from the individuals with negative views towards their product.

Click on "User/CP" in the upper right of the top menu, under the rx8 club graphicbanner.

Go to miscellaneous section. Click on Buddy/Ignore List.

Add the user names to the ignore list and click update. Va la, now you don't have to deal with the individuals that bother you.

7.5K? Ours is 4995 right now, if you want pre-tuned engine management it's an additional 1300.

Damn that sounds like a good deal...I hope it's available soon.

It's available now, www.ssr-engineering.com/products_rx8turbo.php

OH geez...that's right...sorry I spaced that one.

Well let me see what the "other guys" come out with, and I'll weigh the options...

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...8&page=4&pp=15

Is there any new updates at this point? How is the car running? Has the smoke issue been fixed?

$7499 plus the optional 3" 304SS cat delete ppe for $399.




Tim

Thats what it says on the site :

http://www.speedforceracing.com/prod...x8turbokit.php

That includes the EMS, injectors, & boost solenoid. $7499.

I wish you would stop quoting that $4995. That is somewhat deceptive in that there is no engine management, the injectors that you used to get to the 280 whp that you are claiming. If you guys are claiming 280-287 whp great, but at least tell people that it will be about $6300-$7500...when all is said & done. One is a tuner kit, the other is a turbo kit.

$4995+$1300 ECU upgrade sounds good. I wish I just bought mine awhile back so I can start with this. Alas, my Shinka is only 3mos old and needs a little seasoning first (warranty/loan payoff). After a couple of yrs this can be a very good option to take for me to spice up my passion for the 8 (kinda like being married too long) :D .

7499 for almost 150hp to the rear, that's ok with me. How about installation, what's the round about cost? And is that with the ECU already tuned and can alternate maps be added for different driving conditions. Sorry if these questions were already answered but I don't know that much about tuning.

installation? go to your local rotary shop and ask them, unless you want to take a short drive across the country to SFR in which case would be about 1000 bucks plus another 200 for an hour of tuning

We have to put dynoing the RX-8 turbo on hold till next week.The front O2 sensor stripped out when we removed it from the stock header.We tried to fix it and reinstall it in the new turbo downpipe but the heater is messed up and it is throwing a CEL.So we have to wait till Monday for a new one before we can proceed.

I thought we flogged this horse to death already...
They can quote $4995 because they give you the option to pick which ever ECU you like. It's only 7.5K if you use THEIR TSI unit... I guess they might stop quoting $4995 when you stop quoting $7500.
They have said over and over again that there are a multitude of options with their kit. It's up to the purchaser to pick and choose as they see fit. Sort of like building / buying a PC.
Lets ALL agree that some people like the fact that this kit has options, while others would prefer a complete figure ala GReddy. BUT it is up to the consumer to understand EXACTLY what they are buying.
I have never been under the impression that SFR was trying to mislead us by their pricing scheme of this kit and if you look on their website, it states VERY CLEARLY what you get for $4995.
The only thing I would like to know more about is how they are going with the install pertinent to this thread. ie issues, performanace gains and EXACTLY how they got there.

Cheers,
LJ

That's what I mean by "Tuner" kit vs. "Turbo" kit. A lot of people DON'T understand the difference. They see $5000 and assume that is the price to get a running kit. You need FMU, some kind've FMU to go with the $5,000. That is what we are trying to explain to people new to the FI world. That if you spend $5,000 to get a SFR/SSR kit you will still need to get an FMU, some kind of FMU for the car to be usable. You might saavy enough to know the difference, but some people have never even thought about a turbo kit until this car. They see the Greddy or the upcoming PTP & assume the SFR/SSR is the same thing. It's not. I respect what SFR said that this is not a kit that someone looking at a Greddy will look at, but they should make the delineation of quoting $5000, but not telling the guy BTW, you need SOME kind've FMU to go with that. Either quote $5,000 and tell them FMU is up to you, or the $6,300-$7,500. With the Vortech SC for the 350's on their Tuner kits they put in BIG, BOLD Writing that it does not include certain parts necessary to run the kit.

I see where you are coming from and I am one of the noobs you refer about not ever having considered FI until this car. Everything I know about mods and tuning has largely been from this site. Thus I don't post very often.
The point is, anyone who knows how to read and has a reasonable level of comprehension skills would be able to figure out that the 5k does not inc a piggyback ECU.
It just feels like you're still hounding them about a slight error in judgement with their inital dissemination of information about this kit.

Btw,

"Ours is 4995 right now, if you want pre-tuned engine management it's an additional 1300"

I think the above statement is fairly clear. But that's just me..

Cheers
LJ

I have to agree with LittleJohn on this one. I too have never used FI before but now that I own an RX8, I will likely go down the FI road at some later date. Much of what I learned so far has come from this site and any semi-intelligent, rationale individual would understand the difference between the two packages. Lets just stop throwing accusations at SSR and get on with the show.

oh so sad . im gonna need to get a new o2 sensor. i wont have anycash for that till next week because im preparing for hot import days in daygo, this saturday. what will suck is that i couldnt buy tires for my rims and didnt get to lower my car. because i had to pay the rest of the turbo. i guess its okay. its my first show anyways, and vision ent. is hard to win anything anyways. but back to the OH SO LONG COUNTDOWN. im getting tuned as soon as i get the o2 sensor. so till then it'll have to be postponed. hopfully next week. im praying.really bad. sorry guys

Aren't they going to spring for a new O2 snsor for you? If I had people hounding me like they do for a dyno sheet, a hundred bones for a new 02 would be the LAST thing stopping me!

This thread is dead, nobody believes in it anymore... too sad..

or maybe ask your "club" to help you out with the $100. Also, if $100 is that big of a deal, why did you drop $5k on a turbo kit?

No joke... I guess if something goes wrong, you'll be riding the TEAMBLUR BMX to work. :D I personally feel that there is more wrong than the 02 sensor, but him saying that was just a simple way of stalling progress without panicking everyone.

^lol, BMX, too funny. or maybe the TEAMBLUR city transportation!

The car runs fine except that it is staying in open loop at idle,part throttle,etc........We need the O2 sensor so that the car will operate in closed loop at idle, part throttle, etc.......


Apparently, nobody has priced out an O2 sensor for an RX-8 because it is $200+ for the sensor.Unfortunately, the Mazda dealer did not have one when we ordered it so they said it would be 4-5 days till it came in.As soon as we get the sensor, we will put the car on the dyno.

It is $100 for a salvaged one -- I had to put one in after my GReddy install.

If you can find one.LOL.



Tim

gLAD TO SEE THIS THREAD BACK ON TRACK i GOT TO SAY LOVE THE SOUND BIT....ANYCHANCE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN CANADA THAT CAN DO THIS TURBO WORK?
ME WANT...

I've heard capslock in alberta is great

LOL YES IT IS, WE ARE RANCHERS NOT REDNECKS HERE!

So You Have Heard Of Capslock Racing And Their Jet Powered Rx-8? I Heard That Its The Fastest Car Ever Concieved By The Hand Of Man. Faster Than Light Even

Well.........nobody in particular. However, if they are a decent mechanic then the install should be pretty easy.

big sister, little sister
 

sorry i havent posted, i didnt know a car show would take up alot of time. and money (reason why i havent gotten my o2 sensor). anyways,heres my car with the rx7. (2 of team BLURs weapon) it was nice to be the only rx8 with their hood open, 2nd pixs is our line up. minus the rx7(which was still in the trailer. a 2003 si, and a type r integra that won a trophy might i add

Looks hot. Clear those corners though!

here are the pics of the whole team from the modify mag website.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...d=1#post973872

cool :D your car looks awesome(the EGs and dc2s next to it make it look even better)

Do we have dyno numbers yet?

yeah i'd like to see dyno numbers on this baby, im betting over 300rwhp

im trying to wait till my next check till i buy the 02 sensor that wont be till next friday. sorry guys. right now every body is wondering the #'s also. but i promise i'll get it to you guys as soon as i get it.

This thread is dead dude, you are killing it...

Go GReddy, 246 WHP on a MUSTANG DYNO!!!!! and 218 TQ!!!!

13.6 in 1/4 mile, 0-60 in 5.2

Drive by me now and catch me before i say "that is an SSR engineering turbo"

Why didnt SFR pay for the O2 sensor? I mean, they are the ones doing the install. If it can be removed without damaging it, why should you have to pay for it. I mean, if they knew that the removal of the O2 sensor is impossible without damaging it, that money should have been factored into the cost of the install and it wasnt...

You cant have it both ways....

It is entirely possible to remove it and now break it. Many people on here have removed it without problems.

If I were in their (SSR's) position, I would have chipped-in for one the minute it happened - for the SOLE purpose of getting a friggin' dyno chart posted! Now, I'm no buisness man, but, I would think that the cost of replacing the sensor is FAR outweighed by the cost of not posting a dyno sheet on this thread for a couple of weeks after the installation. Hell, even if the sensor broke on the way home from the install, because the dude hit it with a hammer, I would have paid for a new one just to get a dyno sheet posted! especially after the bloody hell that people have put SSR through!

On the other hand, maybe they just don't care after the treatment they got here!!