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Old 11-07-2007 | 09:15 PM
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Thumbs up Petit flash is out !

It is on the market at last . Just got this by email.






Holiday Specials for RX8 Compressor Kits On sale until January 2008


Stage II 275WHP & 185 lb/ft $5794 w/flash



Stage II CS 300 WHP &195lb/ft $6144 w/flash



This is a limited quantity offer, all orders require a $500 deposit and balance paid by shipping or completion date, For Shipping charges email Turner@pettitracing.com provide shipping info and zip. Installation of the kit is $995 plus the FL Sales tax of 6.5% and can be scheduled between November 2007 and march 2008, However; all orders must be paid in full prior to December 31, 2007.



Both Holiday offers include ecu re-flash and are available for 04-07 manual trans model only.



Our latest release Stage II “CS” include re-flashing the ECU and the addition of a hi flow cat.

The Stage II CS Kit can produce 300 whp and 195 lb/ft torque @ 5-7psi. Most of the added hp is a result of re-flashing the factory ECU. Other benefits include: Superb drivability, and clean smooth rock solid acceleration through the entire RPM range. Also with the stock ECU and OBD II diagnostics system fully functional there is no ck engine light unless something is wrong. Most OBDII compatible scan tools can perform full system scans and clear codes and the Mazda dealer can still perform full service with the kit installed as well. Our latest testing on 5 different RX8’s has consistently yielded 278 - 300 whp through the stock exhaust with the latter using a hi flow cat. We will continue testing other combinations; like the stock cat with performance cat back system etc, etc.



Customers involved in racing and/or track events may consider using a water/methanol injection system to help keep charge temps under control in extreme conditions. We are now testing W/M injection setups that become active when charge temps reach a set point; we hope to have these kits available soon. With the re-flash setup there is no method yet to trim fuel and /or retard timing under extreme conditions, this results in a slightly rich mixture as charge temps increase, so far this is no problem and may actually be of benefit, also the factory knock sensor seems to be doing its job, so far there are no instances of detonation.



A complete install at Pettit takes 2 days with 1 day for road testing etc. For DYI the ECU has to be sent to us for the reflash, turnaround in most cases is 2 days. More info available at www.pettitracing.com



Stage II Kit
1. Compressor Kit 5495

2. Management ECU flash tuning 1199

Total 6694

Holiday discount SAVE $900 Sale Total $5794

Stage II CS Kit

1.Compressor Kit 5495

2. Management ECU flash tuning 1199

3. Hi flow Cat 450

Total 7144

Holiday discount SAVE $1000 Sale Total $6144



Complete Installation at our shop is $995 plus tax. Call now to schedule 561-844-2258!



Prices and specifications subject to change with out notice

Copyright 2007 by Excellent Performance Inc. all rights reserved reproduction in part or whole prohibited.

TKT, Trak Pro, PROTEK, R-Tec and Pettit Racing are Trademarks of Excellent Performance Inc. Palm Beach, FL.
Old 11-07-2007 | 09:26 PM
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Ya know what sucks! You're in freakin NZ and you know about it before I do and I'm about 90 miles away!
Now it's going to be real hard to resist!
Old 11-07-2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
It is on the market at last . Just got this by email.
Holiday Specials for RX8 Compressor Kits On sale until January 2008
Stage II 275WHP & 185 lb/ft $5794 w/flash
Stage II CS 300 WHP &195lb/ft $6144 w/flash
This is a limited quantity offer, all orders require a $500 deposit and balance paid by shipping or completion date, For Shipping charges email Turner@pettitracing.com provide shipping info and zip. Installation of the kit is $995 plus the FL Sales tax of 6.5% and can be scheduled between November 2007 and march 2008, However; all orders must be paid in full prior to December 31, 2007.



Both Holiday offers include ecu re-flash and are available for 04-07 manual trans model only.



Our latest release Stage II “CS” include re-flashing the ECU and the addition of a hi flow cat.

The Stage II CS Kit can produce 300 whp and 195 lb/ft torque @ 5-7psi. Most of the added hp is a result of re-flashing the factory ECU. Other benefits include: Superb drivability, and clean smooth rock solid acceleration through the entire RPM range. Also with the stock ECU and OBD II diagnostics system fully functional there is no ck engine light unless something is wrong. Most OBDII compatible scan tools can perform full system scans and clear codes and the Mazda dealer can still perform full service with the kit installed as well. Our latest testing on 5 different RX8’s has consistently yielded 278 - 300 whp through the stock exhaust with the latter using a hi flow cat. We will continue testing other combinations; like the stock cat with performance cat back system etc, etc.



Customers involved in racing and/or track events may consider using a water/methanol injection system to help keep charge temps under control in extreme conditions. We are now testing W/M injection setups that become active when charge temps reach a set point; we hope to have these kits available soon. With the re-flash setup there is no method yet to trim fuel and /or retard timing under extreme conditions, this results in a slightly rich mixture as charge temps increase, so far this is no problem and may actually be of benefit, also the factory knock sensor seems to be doing its job, so far there are no instances of detonation.
A complete install at Pettit takes 2 days with 1 day for road testing etc. For DYI the ECU has to be sent to us for the reflash, turnaround in most cases is 2 days. More info available at www.pettitracing.com
Stage II Kit
1. Compressor Kit 5495
2. Management ECU flash tuning 1199

Total 6694

Holiday discount SAVE $900 Sale Total $5794
Stage II CS Kit
1.Compressor Kit 5495
2. Management ECU flash tuning 1199
3. Hi flow Cat 450
Total 7144
Holiday discount SAVE $1000 Sale Total $6144
Complete Installation at our shop is $995 plus tax. Call now to schedule 561-844-2258!
Prices and specifications subject to change with out notice
Copyright 2007 by Excellent Performance Inc. all rights reserved reproduction in part or whole prohibited.
TKT, Trak Pro, PROTEK, R-Tec and Pettit Racing are Trademarks of Excellent Performance Inc. Palm Beach, FL.
Yep, but it's currently for MTs only. ATs will have to wait a little longer.
Old 11-07-2007 | 10:14 PM
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Boo-Hoo for you Phil!
Don't think you'll have to wait long as you already know.
Old 11-07-2007 | 10:54 PM
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Boo-Hoo for you Phil!
Don't think you'll have to wait long as you already know.
I know nothing My life must be an open book-can't get any sympathy
Old 11-07-2007 | 11:17 PM
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does anyone know what the reflash changes??
Old 11-08-2007 | 12:01 AM
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Ya know what sucks! You're in freakin NZ and you know about it before I do and I'm about 90 miles away!
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heh - the internet rulz
Old 11-08-2007 | 12:28 AM
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Sweet.

Let's see what they put to the wheels on California 91 octane, though
Old 11-08-2007 | 07:06 AM
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Now I don't speak for Pettit, but unless something has changed in the last couple of weeks, the flash is only for s/c MT engines. He was concentrating on vehicles with his FI kits first.
Old 11-08-2007 | 09:44 AM
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$1200 for a flash and you have to send it to them to do it (ie no handheld device).... huh??
Old 11-08-2007 | 10:24 AM
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$1200 for a flash and you have to send it to them to do it (ie no handheld device).... huh??
Sure would be nice if this carried over to the Pettit threads. That way Cam could see our comments. He get busy and tends to look mainly at his threads in the Pettit Forum.
Old 11-08-2007 | 10:31 AM
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Considering they are the only game in town to offer this with a FI option, I guess they can create the market...but when the $700 Accessport and ~$300 street tuner arrive they'll need to adjust down a little, I think.

Also interesting that the difference in the cat can create an extra 25whp...they must have to be in preserve-the-cat-mode just like Mazda on the OEM unit...I recall a while back Pettit commenting they were having issues with the OEM cat...
Old 11-08-2007 | 11:01 AM
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does anyone know what the reflash changes??
Logically it would seem to be fuel and timing according to their superchargers requirements. In other words don't try to get this reflash for a turbo system. It is only for the intended use.
Old 11-08-2007 | 11:02 AM
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Also interesting that the difference in the cat can create an extra 25whp...they must have to be in preserve-the-cat-mode just like Mazda on the OEM unit...I recall a while back Pettit commenting they were having issues with the OEM cat...
That doesn't surprise me. If the cat takes away about 6-7 hp or so on a naturally aspirated engine, it would seem to hold true that an engine that has more exhaust gasses would be further restricted through the same cat. It would definitely heat the cat up more.
Old 11-08-2007 | 11:38 AM
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$1200 for a flash and you have to send it to them to do it (ie no handheld device).... huh??
Yea dude, for that price Id rather save a bit more and get the Int-x and have full tunability.

That price seems steep for a reflash.
Old 11-08-2007 | 11:54 AM
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You don't need full tunabilty. If you are using their supercharger kit, you use their flash and you are done. You don't need fully tunability now. Yes you can design a flash that works in all cars. The car already comes with one. I agree that the price is overly steep though.
Old 11-08-2007 | 12:49 PM
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Yea dude, for that price Id rather save a bit more and get the Int-x and have full tunability.
i wouldn't go that far as the flash and OEM ECU is a much better engine management then the int-x will ever be...
Old 11-08-2007 | 12:52 PM
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RG: All cars meaning all MTs and another for ATs?
Old 11-08-2007 | 12:53 PM
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My guess (and my hope for my sake) is that the price of the flash and the SC will come down over time. Seems that in most industries you have to pay to be an early adopter. They gotta try to recoup their development costs, and as time goes on more competition comes out, so they have to adjust.

Plus keep in mind that software development costs A LOT. People seem to think that software should be cheap because you can't physically hold it. While I agree that the initial cost for this seems high, I'm sure it wasn't cheap for them to develop. I used to develop software for a living, so I know something about what I speak in this case
Old 11-08-2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mdw1000
My guess (and my hope for my sake) is that the price of the flash and the SC will come down over time. Seems that in most industries you have to pay to be an early adopter. They gotta try to recoup their development costs, and as time goes on more competition comes out, so they have to adjust.

Plus keep in mind that software development costs A LOT. People seem to think that software should be cheap because you can't physically hold it. While I agree that the initial cost for this seems high, I'm sure it wasn't cheap for them to develop. I used to develop software for a living, so I know something about what I speak in this case
I would not hold my breath on the cost of the s/c coming down any too soon as I happen to know what his costs are and based upon those costs the initial sell price did not do the trick for an acceptable recovery of investment. With the price escalation it is now more in line.

Now the flash is another story - my guess is that the pie here is being split so short term pricing may be reduced with competition.
Old 11-08-2007 | 01:19 PM
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300 WHP? Very tempting

I would like to see it in the $5k range out the door though.
Old 11-08-2007 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Digital_Damage
300 WHP? Very tempting

I would like to see it in the $5k range out the door though.
If you'd have purchased it 30 days ago that's what you would have paid. Prices do go up, look at gas. With me it's not the cost of the s/c but all the other stuff that you want after you get it.
Old 11-08-2007 | 01:51 PM
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ione would assume that aquiring the capacity to flash the pcm via opening it and attaching a com port and then downloading the appropriate maps cost them a certain large amount of dollars. i have a general idea of what it cost RB. so X amount / by the number of kits they expect to be able to sell +% of profit = $1200

its not unreasonable when you think about it in those terms. is too much for what you get? $6000 for an essentially plug and play 300 hp supercharger kit for a small market car? to me it doesnt seem so but then i dont have the money for it anyway
Old 11-08-2007 | 01:59 PM
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its not unreasonable when you think about it in those terms. is too much for what you get? $6000 for an essentially plug and play 300 hp supercharger kit for a small market car? to me it doesnt seem so but then i dont have the money for it anyway
http://www.kennebell.net/pricelist/pricelist.htm

Agreed, see link above. These are twin screw, Autorotor kits, and a reflahsed, air to water intercooled, twin screw SC right in the ballpark with Petitt pricing...so for 8psi/300whp, I think this is pretty good.
Old 11-08-2007 | 02:07 PM
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If you'd have purchased it 30 days ago that's what you would have paid. Prices do go up, look at gas. With me it's not the cost of the s/c but all the other stuff that you want after you get it.
LOL, are you comparing a product to a consumeable resource???

All they have to-do is overcome the price of RND. It is not like the price of steel is sky rocketing.


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