paulmasoner

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/threadjack
Pearl is the Tiger's breeding ground mostly. Plus you'll get arrested if caught in those waters Hammers are in Kaneohe Bay.

I've seen some big Ulua(i think ulua is grouper?) on the west coast of Oahu when i used to skin dive a lot. couple miles north of the power plant at Tracks beach park. I've seen the HI Skin Diver guys out there a time or two, that should mean something. Also if you do have the ***** to get into deeper waters in K-bay, there are a lot of BIG fish in there(so the old locals told me).

If you ever do get to the islands and serisouly want to fish, get in touch. Couple of locals i worked with out there grew up diving on the north shore of oahu, and a bit on kaui/maui. They know ALL the spots.

Brettus

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yes - it would be like a panic scene from a hollywood spoof movie ....

MazdaManiac

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Brettus

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i was thinking of the one where a naked woman with large boobies jumps up and its jelly on a plate time .

But yeah

california style

haha, the airplane panic scenes were alwys classic. Mind you the forum flameathonss here can sometimes require the "face slapping,'calm down!'" airplane scenes as well.

Rote8

So, we are told "Post results and it will be changed".
When the results are posted, these are called "maxed out" despite the fact that all S/C components are from Pettit Racing. Cam is just very conservative with customer's engines.

On another note:
"Can you imagine the mayhem that would result if I posted one of the maxed-out dynos from the MM system?"

Are you claiming you are not charting maxed out turbos?
I wonder if any other dyno results on that page are low balled?
You are currently making a baseless claim that the results on your chart are not a "maxed out turbo"; show us some "maxed out" DynoJet dyno sheets proving what YOU are claiming or we will have to consider the chart irrelevant.

Rote8

Maybe the extra two ports did not open, or opened incorrectly? (or suddenly closed)

If you have a methanol kit, check for a possible siphon dumping too much water/meth in before the S/C. (water takes space, and practically doesn't compress)

Is your boost gauge digital or the old school vacuum line? (alternator issue if digital gauge?)

Flashwing

Rote, I'll try and address your questions since I think the thread in question is very important to anyone looking to purchase an FI upgrade to the RX8.

It's important to understand the difference between dyno numbers produced by the kit "as is" from the manufacturer and dyno numbers produced by a kit plus other custom installed parts such as boost controllers, water/meth, gauges, etc. T

The idea is to show how a kit performs right out of the box. The dynographs listed in the comparison thread were provided from customers who installed the kit and had dyno numbers to display. I don't know what modifications in addition to the supercharger that Mars has on his car, but I image it's more than what came with the Pettit kit itself.

I won't play the "if you only knew what I knew" game with the MM/BHR Turbo kit but I will say that the dyno sheet listed for that turbo can easily be reproduced on any RX8 we install it in. Any power gains beyond that are due to custom installs by the customer.

The hope is to have a dyno chart showing power results should the kit in question be installed on any RX8 and produce the same results without any additional modification. Any power gains beyond what's listed should be considered a "plus" or "bonus" and not an expected result.

I'm sure that a "maxed out" comparison thread could be made but I'm positve the results would shock people and no doubt there would be a lot of bickering and claims the data provided was false.

I hope that addresses your concerns.

mysql

Jeff's 3071R is extremely conservative. It's like the SC guys running 4 psi of boost.

What might make things interesting is if someone takes control of a "max dyno charts" thread and pulls the max gains we've seen for each kit. No one said Jeff has a monopoly on creating charts.

I used to do it, but it's a PITA to keep up to date.

This could be a good thing, cause the current dyno on the GReddy turbo kit should be replaced with a more typical 7-9 psi run.

MazdaManiac

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Try reading a bit:


The chart in the Dyno Comparison for the MM upgrade is just that - the GReddy system plus the upgrade.
What I have taken that system to is way beyond what is posted.

I doubt anyone "low-balled" their chart. The MM chart shown was pretty well tuned to acheive that result. It just didn't inclued an optional equipment.

marsredr100

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Here is my 330 whp formula for the record:

1. Pettit Racing SC Kit with the 5 inch crank pulley (that is the only mod to the kit out of the box). The stock kit comes with a 4.5 inch crank pulley.
2. I’m using the stock ECU flash that came with the kit (it can be improved but I like to see 11.6~11.8 AF ratios at max whp rather than lean it and risk catastrophic detonation). Sorry, my personal choice and anything just past 300 whp is fine for me.
3. 440cc (blue) injectors for secondary instead of the 380cc (yellow) injectors with the stock OEM fuel pump.
4. ExoticSpeed header, Racing Beat Race Pipe and Racing Beat Exhaust.
5. Racing Beat Aluminum Light Flywheel with Exedy Stage 1 clutch.
6. Snow Performance water methanol system pumping 50/50 VP Racing M-5 methanol (100m/l before the blower and 60m/l after the intercooler).
7. MSDs LS2 8247 Multiple Spark ignition coils, MSD Super Conductor ignition wires and NGKs Racing 10.5 leading 11.5 trailing gapped at .035 Yes, you cap gap these plugs but not the OEM RX8. The ground electrode on the NGK Racing plugs are imbedded/welded into the plug body and not tacked welded on top like the ones on the OEM RX8 plugs.

The best part is that my car can sit in my garage for weeks and all I have to do is get in, start the engine, let it warm up and drive (have fun with it). No worries, no fuzz, spank some ricers along the way and best of all excellent customer support from Pettit Racing the owner himself practically any time of the week.

MazdaManiac

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Mars -
Do you actually have the blues in the secondary position?
You do know why they need to be in the P2 position, right?

11.8:1 AFR is perfectly fine. There is a little more power to be had at 12.3:1 (especially with the W/M where the sky is the limit), but not a ton.
The car will drive better with 12.x:1 off of the torque peak at WOT.

marsredr100

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Moon Assad

Havent you been saying somthing different for years on the AF, I think you even started arguments about how 12 is to lean, I think you stated 10.5 or 11 or somthing in that area. Tripping over your own feet arnt ya.

Rotr8

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No W/M,,,
why would the load be much higher with the gradually acceleration?
agree about a more refined tune,,, getting the AP very soon and a reputable local tuning shop is acquiring the protuner software for the 8 this month so I will be able to work out all these hik-ups, hopefully,,,

Old school mechanical boost/vac gauge thats measuring off the LIM....

Would the rear tires coming off the ground lead to soething like this,,, I drove over a bridge divider, may have broken loose for a second.
Also my RP supercat is at the point of expected(reported) life expectancy I currently have 15K mles on it, will be swapping a new one in hopefully tomorrow thanks to Swoope

Moon Assad

Yeh, didnt get arrested when we were jumping from 5 storys up off the boat. Our 1st segt did confine us to the boat for the weekend though kinda thought somthing was gona happen when I saw him standing on the lower deck on the way down. Gave us a chance to do some fishing, more baby bonnet heads then I ever saw, I think we cought 50 between all involved that evening. Then the next day the Seals were running there mini sub following a 8ft hammer head, no will to swim in the pearl again.

marsredr100

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Picture me saying this with a thick redneck accent: Well Bern, here is your problem!

Also, be careful with swoope’s advice/parts cuz I went to my local AutoZone store looking for that wobbly tool he referenced to a while back and I almost got tossed out of the store.

Brettus

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agree 100% on that - the Greddy chart is definately not an "out of the box" result - it is a maxed out result .

mars - you should start another thread with your dyno as the first post so this does not get lost over time . It is an impressive result - I can't understand why it has taken so long for someone to get there though ....

Rotr8

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He as well as others have already done this, in our own section mind you, until they were all shut down or locked becuase haters shitting in the threads...

Rotr8

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Should have recieved it yesterday, so I guess I'll get it tomorrow....

Kane

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Do jellyfish lake while there... swimming in a sea of fake boobies....

Moon Assad

No jellyfish for me I was floating around roosavelt roads, I probly spelled that wrong but anyway I swam into a shallow cove and notice this cool plant life, it looked like colie flower, turned out it was upside down jellyfish 2 foot off my wetsuit.

Kane

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They don't sting you big girl!

Moon Assad

If they dont sting, cool but that kinda thing classifies in the group of turning around and looking eye to eye with a 850 pound manitee, you now it harmless but holy crap. Also in that classification would be

http://picasaweb.google.com/timschim...53735671137090

Man VS beast and no fishing pole between you and it just 1 shot of your spear gun, the bigger the better.

Kane

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Multiply that times 80 or so... and that would be Kwajalien...never seen so many sharks in my life.