Pettit Super Charger Owners
02-13-2009, 08:09 PM
#4703
well Courtnay of Mazmart-- i now have a 09 fuel pump. And a long consult with Rick.
If ANYONE has ever had fuel starvation issues get the 09 pump. MUCH better design, appears to be a much better pump--install tomorrow.
There many significant changes to the assembly design.
olddragger
If ANYONE has ever had fuel starvation issues get the 09 pump. MUCH better design, appears to be a much better pump--install tomorrow.
There many significant changes to the assembly design.
olddragger
02-13-2009, 10:15 PM
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well Courtnay of Mazmart-- i now have a 09 fuel pump. And a long consult with Rick.
If ANYONE has ever had fuel starvation issues get the 09 pump. MUCH better design, appears to be a much better pump--install tomorrow.
There many significant changes to the assembly design.
olddragger
If ANYONE has ever had fuel starvation issues get the 09 pump. MUCH better design, appears to be a much better pump--install tomorrow.
There many significant changes to the assembly design.
olddragger
02-14-2009, 10:27 AM
#4707
Dan--part number is N3R1-13-35Z--can get it through mazdaspeed.
Yes Rick talked about the sock. the new sock is a fabric type and although the micron size is not known at present, it is much less restrictive when wet per the old blow test.
There are MANY changes to the 09 unit.
First the can is car specific --the older one wasnt. it is much better designed. no "overhanging lip" anymore etc
The pump is now a denso and appears MUCH better built-easily seen
The sock is much different--now fabric type, not as restricted ,more securely attached
The filter fuel outlet (fuel to the car) is now at the bottom of the filter--not the top--know why thats important?
The venturi is also at the bottom as is the fpr.
course fuel filter and sock is now replaceable.
the pump is totally in closed (except the bottom of course) but the canister is assessable.
The only thing that MAY keep this from being a plug and play is the venturi line hookup appears to be a bigger size(diameter)
Will install tomorrow
Remember we are looking for good functionality ABOVE 1/4 tank.
Swoope pm me or call? You want this pump.
OD
Yes Rick talked about the sock. the new sock is a fabric type and although the micron size is not known at present, it is much less restrictive when wet per the old blow test.
There are MANY changes to the 09 unit.
First the can is car specific --the older one wasnt. it is much better designed. no "overhanging lip" anymore etc
The pump is now a denso and appears MUCH better built-easily seen
The sock is much different--now fabric type, not as restricted ,more securely attached
The filter fuel outlet (fuel to the car) is now at the bottom of the filter--not the top--know why thats important?
The venturi is also at the bottom as is the fpr.
course fuel filter and sock is now replaceable.
the pump is totally in closed (except the bottom of course) but the canister is assessable.
The only thing that MAY keep this from being a plug and play is the venturi line hookup appears to be a bigger size(diameter)
Will install tomorrow
Remember we are looking for good functionality ABOVE 1/4 tank.
Swoope pm me or call? You want this pump.
OD
02-14-2009, 10:38 AM
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Hey gang. I maxed out the MAF yesterday!! It was close to 9000rpm. I wonder if I should leave the MAF curve stock, or up it a little bit?
-Yambo
-Yambo
02-14-2009, 02:32 PM
#4711
I AM WORKING ON IT AND TAKING A SMALL BREAK---WELL THE BAD NEWS IS IT AINT PLUG AND PLAY
Opps excuse the capitals--didnt realize lock was on.
It aint plug and play but all you have you do is:
1- change the fuel sender connector the earlier one will not fit in the 09 recepticle
2- the venturi hook up will have to be attached by hose and clamp. Remember that this is is not a pressured line anyway. You will have to use the special gas submersible hose--luckily i had some.
Almost done---and I HAVE PICTURES!! Its a much bigger hose than before--i dont think using the smaller hose on our cars will have any detrimental affect.
OD
Opps excuse the capitals--didnt realize lock was on.
It aint plug and play but all you have you do is:
1- change the fuel sender connector the earlier one will not fit in the 09 recepticle
2- the venturi hook up will have to be attached by hose and clamp. Remember that this is is not a pressured line anyway. You will have to use the special gas submersible hose--luckily i had some.
Almost done---and I HAVE PICTURES!! Its a much bigger hose than before--i dont think using the smaller hose on our cars will have any detrimental affect.
OD
02-14-2009, 05:27 PM
#4712
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...&d=1234653861\
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1234653861
lets see how this worked
Ok in the 1st pic--the 09 pump is on the right(i am editing this entry)--see how the can is taller and and a little bigger, that connector on the bottom is the venturi hookup--it is too big for our line--you have to cut the connector off the gas tank line and then mate it up to the pump line with 5/16 rated fuel hose--make sure you get the fuel hose that is rated for submerged application. It is not a pressured line--just a suction hose.
2nd pic is the sock of course--hard to tell by the picture but it is now a fabric type(like most other socks) and there is MUCH less resistance. It is now a replaceable item
OD
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1234653861
lets see how this worked
Ok in the 1st pic--the 09 pump is on the right(i am editing this entry)--see how the can is taller and and a little bigger, that connector on the bottom is the venturi hookup--it is too big for our line--you have to cut the connector off the gas tank line and then mate it up to the pump line with 5/16 rated fuel hose--make sure you get the fuel hose that is rated for submerged application. It is not a pressured line--just a suction hose.
2nd pic is the sock of course--hard to tell by the picture but it is now a fabric type(like most other socks) and there is MUCH less resistance. It is now a replaceable item
OD
Last edited by olddragger; 02-14-2009 at 06:01 PM.
02-14-2009, 05:29 PM
#4713
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1234654113
I am now a pic ho!!
the assembly in my hand is the pump and filter, the pump is now totally enclosed, the small black hose is part of the venturi workings. notice how there is only one black ribbed hose from the pump assembly to the car connector, see how it feeds from the bottom of the filter
OD
I am now a pic ho!!
the assembly in my hand is the pump and filter, the pump is now totally enclosed, the small black hose is part of the venturi workings. notice how there is only one black ribbed hose from the pump assembly to the car connector, see how it feeds from the bottom of the filter
OD
Last edited by olddragger; 02-14-2009 at 05:54 PM.
02-14-2009, 05:46 PM
#4715
ok --pump is in an appears to be working fine.
it ended up not being plug and play as stated.
The only other thing is that the pump cannot be mounted with the forward facing arrow facing forward
The reason is due to the direction of the fuel out connector on the top of the pump--( look at pic) and the fuel line connector angle--so the pump has to be rotated so the little arrow is at approx 3 oclock so the fuel line and connector will be at the proper angle.
I do not anticipate any problem in doing this--just be sure the fuel sender wiring and the venturi hose is ok.
The sock doesnt look any bigger but as you can see it is a totally different design.
See how the fpr and the fuel out from the filter is at the bottom. Less likely to be affected by an airbubble that way, the way the fuel gets into the can is also much better.
Just in weight --the 09 pump and filter assembly feels heavier although the bottom of the 09 pump appears the same size. The entire bottom of the pump (not the can) is more metal than the earlier one.
Mazda does not change things unless there was a reason.
Hands down--this appears to be a much better pump assembly.
I guess time will tell.
olddragger
it ended up not being plug and play as stated.
The only other thing is that the pump cannot be mounted with the forward facing arrow facing forward
The reason is due to the direction of the fuel out connector on the top of the pump--( look at pic) and the fuel line connector angle--so the pump has to be rotated so the little arrow is at approx 3 oclock so the fuel line and connector will be at the proper angle. I do not anticipate any problem in doing this--just be sure the fuel sender wiring and the venturi hose is ok.
The sock doesnt look any bigger but as you can see it is a totally different design.
See how the fpr and the fuel out from the filter is at the bottom. Less likely to be affected by an airbubble that way, the way the fuel gets into the can is also much better.
Just in weight --the 09 pump and filter assembly feels heavier although the bottom of the 09 pump appears the same size. The entire bottom of the pump (not the can) is more metal than the earlier one.
Mazda does not change things unless there was a reason.
Hands down--this appears to be a much better pump assembly.
I guess time will tell.
olddragger
02-14-2009, 06:48 PM
#4717
mar 7, frankenpump and frankenpump v 2.0 vs 09pump in old car..
btw, i have some franken socks for you to play with..
and you really need to start a new thread with this info.. i am getting killed with fuel pump pms..
beers
02-14-2009, 08:03 PM
#4722
Here are the videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve0Uajy5bEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVQVCG7ficA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve0Uajy5bEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVQVCG7ficA
02-14-2009, 10:01 PM
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Well folks I was not able to break into the 12s but there’s always another time. Will try next time near my home http://www.bradentonmotorsports.com/
I had a hard time getting used to my new M/T slicks trying to find the sweet spot between tire air pressure and launching rpm. I also need to concentrate on smooth=fast shifting rather than speed shifting. However, the car ran great and like always no issues whatsoever.
02-14-2009, 10:11 PM
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1.9 60ft is good.....hmmm....wonder why your hitting a wall at 13.4-5......with 330 whp you should get better than that like 12.8-12.6
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