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06-15-2009, 01:01 AM
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This comment above is great, thanks for helping me make my point here Bastage.
What is so interesting to me is how this little community of RX8 owners have managed to corner themselves off from the rest of the community based on a single common factor which is a part on your car. The fact that any of you might somehow feel that having this common element entitles you to some kind of protection against the things you say is arrogant and ignorant...a deadly combination.
What is so interesting to me is how this little community of RX8 owners have managed to corner themselves off from the rest of the community based on a single common factor which is a part on your car. The fact that any of you might somehow feel that having this common element entitles you to some kind of protection against the things you say is arrogant and ignorant...a deadly combination.
Don't understand where you're coming from on the arrogant and ignorant statement, as we're not the ones coming to your camp and trying to **** on our flagpole.
BTW:
8. No vendor may post in another vendor's thread if that thread is about the vendors product and permission has not be given as stated above.
Bastage, you've made your opinion about our ignition harness quite clear and Ray has gone above and beyond to point out the fact that he apologized for his over zealousness. However, it's clear to me that you've never had an experience where someone else has taken credit and or benefitted directly from your hard work while you get nothing.
Suppose I "reverse enginner" the Pettit supercharger and then sell it myself for profit. Suppose, even worse, I recreate every possible element of the supercharger and sell it as my own despite it being a carbon copy? Would that be allowable as well? Anyone who has invested time, energy and money into product delevopment would understand the frustration of having that work negated by someone else selling the same thing re-badged.
What you're proposing sounds an awful lot like what MM does with the Greddy Turbo kit anyways, so you may have some experience there
Fortunatly, a learning lesson came out of our harness situation. We learned that the quality and attention to detail cannot be duplicated because it's only found here at BHR. We learned that our ignition kit and every other product we make or have manufactured has every possible detail addressed.
BTW, it is impossible to keep track of every detail, especially when you're just repackaging/reselling products. Do you have an employee at the GM Ignition Coil factory that inspects each component at every point of its product?
If you all wish to boycott BHR then you have that right. However, don't expect your opinions to go unchallanged and downright slanderous statements to go without notice.
OD,
I understand we all thrive in environments where we can hug and get along, but honestly you have to make a decision regarding your own statements as well. You simply cannot expect to express opinions or make any posts and not have any disagreement. There are no feel good rules which say we all have to get along.
It's a simple philosophy...if you don't want to be judged then don't put yourself in the position to be judged IE don't post anything. If you cannot take the heat, stay out of the kitchen...etc etc etc.
The purpose of forums like this includes discourse. The challanging of ideas and holding people accountable for their information means most of the BS gets filtered out.
OD,
I understand we all thrive in environments where we can hug and get along, but honestly you have to make a decision regarding your own statements as well. You simply cannot expect to express opinions or make any posts and not have any disagreement. There are no feel good rules which say we all have to get along.
It's a simple philosophy...if you don't want to be judged then don't put yourself in the position to be judged IE don't post anything. If you cannot take the heat, stay out of the kitchen...etc etc etc.
The purpose of forums like this includes discourse. The challanging of ideas and holding people accountable for their information means most of the BS gets filtered out.
In closing, I'd like to continue to make a point which was made in another thread that involved all this. Before judging BHR as a vendor, consider the following questions. What other vendor offers daily technical assistance to new and existing RX8 customers on a daily basis? What vendor provides real solutions to the problems of the RX8 on a regular basis? What vendor has contribed to the development of ignition parts, radiators, clutches and flywheels, nitrous, turbos, tuning solutions and continues to do so daily?
I await your answers.
I await your answers.
06-15-2009, 01:02 AM
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I love how when people see disagreement it's automatically labled as "drama".
Drama is fighting or arguing without a purpose or simply to cause problems. I don't think any of that is happening here. If you can't handle a debate or an argument then simply stay out.
Well, let's see...when the sale of car parts leads directly to being able to put a roof over your head, feed and provide for your family and get the things you want in life then it becomes a big deal wouldn't you say?
This isn't pointless bickering, it's a means of making sure that lies don't take place of the truth.
Bastage,
I might correct you on your interperation of the #8 vendor rule. The actual vendor themselves would have to have started the thread. You can't simply make a thread about X product and bar other vendors from commenting.
Thanks for the various personal insults to myself and my team.
Drama is fighting or arguing without a purpose or simply to cause problems. I don't think any of that is happening here. If you can't handle a debate or an argument then simply stay out.
what i don't get is why people get so angry over car parts
This isn't pointless bickering, it's a means of making sure that lies don't take place of the truth.
Bastage,
I might correct you on your interperation of the #8 vendor rule. The actual vendor themselves would have to have started the thread. You can't simply make a thread about X product and bar other vendors from commenting.
Thanks for the various personal insults to myself and my team.
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06-15-2009, 01:07 AM
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I don't know (or care) what "everybody else" knows.
I provided calibrations to an individual in West Palm Beach that purchased an AccessPORT on March 1st from me. That individual inadvertently provided me with the information about his relationship with Bill.
Then, on or about March 20th, I was provided with a calibration that was being utilized by EFIDudes (in Lake Park - only 7 miles from the "customer") and offered as their own that was a copy of my calibration that had been altered (and unlocked) and ported for their brick.
Unfortunately, they failed to remove the text fields in the data dump that contained my copyright information and warning. So, its not an accusation and, as I mentioned earlier, it just doesn't matter anymore because the situation sorted itself out quite nicely.
I provided calibrations to an individual in West Palm Beach that purchased an AccessPORT on March 1st from me. That individual inadvertently provided me with the information about his relationship with Bill.
Then, on or about March 20th, I was provided with a calibration that was being utilized by EFIDudes (in Lake Park - only 7 miles from the "customer") and offered as their own that was a copy of my calibration that had been altered (and unlocked) and ported for their brick.
Unfortunately, they failed to remove the text fields in the data dump that contained my copyright information and warning. So, its not an accusation and, as I mentioned earlier, it just doesn't matter anymore because the situation sorted itself out quite nicely.
Shouldn't that read: "Quit making **** (and informing people) about other vendor's products so that they will be able to get what they paid for in the first place."
This is even more laughable.
For the most part, we have been the only vendor that has operated honestly and openly. Everyone else depends on their version of magic to convince their poor customers to stick with their products.
I would never want a competitor to go out of the RX-8 business. What would I then have to compare my efforts to?
This is even more laughable.
For the most part, we have been the only vendor that has operated honestly and openly. Everyone else depends on their version of magic to convince their poor customers to stick with their products.
I would never want a competitor to go out of the RX-8 business. What would I then have to compare my efforts to?
06-15-2009, 01:09 AM
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It is now. Welcome to the fray.
You have no idea just how funny this was. My wife's starting to get a little upset with me here, but I just have to tell you that I told her earlier this discussion would eventually end with somebody saying "Thanks for proving my point" Luckily, nobody's drawn the inevitable analogy to Hitler yet though. 
Reputation management is a bitch though isn't it?
So far, BHR has scored 39 points against the Pettit customers since I started this in the Turbo backpressure thread and Pettit has yet to enter the arena. Can we stop now or must somebody from BHR have to get one last post in to finish up the game with 40 points? Rest assured, there will be future contests to be played out here.
Nobody please respond to Flashwing's troll. D'oh too late.
Pretty soon we'll all be on the floor laughing at the absurdity of all this.
thanks for helping me make my point here Bastage
Reputation management is a bitch though isn't it?
So far, BHR has scored 39 points against the Pettit customers since I started this in the Turbo backpressure thread and Pettit has yet to enter the arena. Can we stop now or must somebody from BHR have to get one last post in to finish up the game with 40 points? Rest assured, there will be future contests to be played out here.
I await your answers.
Pretty soon we'll all be on the floor laughing at the absurdity of all this.
06-15-2009, 01:11 AM
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I love how when people see disagreement it's automatically labled as "drama".
Drama is fighting or arguing without a purpose or simply to cause problems. I don't think any of that is happening here. If you can't handle a debate or an argument then simply stay out.
Well, let's see...when the sale of car parts leads directly to being able to put a roof over your head, feed and provide for your family and get the things you want in life then it becomes a big deal wouldn't you say?
This isn't pointless bickering, it's a means of making sure that lies don't take place of the truth.
Bastage,
I might correct you on your interperation of the #8 vendor rule. The actual vendor themselves would have to have started the thread. You can't simply make a thread about X product and bar other vendors from commenting.
Drama is fighting or arguing without a purpose or simply to cause problems. I don't think any of that is happening here. If you can't handle a debate or an argument then simply stay out.
Well, let's see...when the sale of car parts leads directly to being able to put a roof over your head, feed and provide for your family and get the things you want in life then it becomes a big deal wouldn't you say?
This isn't pointless bickering, it's a means of making sure that lies don't take place of the truth.
Bastage,
I might correct you on your interperation of the #8 vendor rule. The actual vendor themselves would have to have started the thread. You can't simply make a thread about X product and bar other vendors from commenting.
If you were actually insulted, my sincerest apologies, but then again you guys really shouldn't be posting in here anyway.
You did call us arrogant and ignorant first though (not that I care).
06-15-2009, 01:13 AM
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It is now. Welcome to the fray.
You have no idea just how funny this was. My wife's starting to get a little upset with me here, but I just have to tell you that I told her earlier this discussion would eventually end with somebody saying "Thanks for proving my point" Luckily, nobody's drawn the inevitable analogy to Hitler yet though.
Reputation management is a bitch though isn't it?
So far, BHR has scored 39 points against the Pettit customers since I started this in the Turbo backpressure thread and Pettit has yet to enter the arena. Can we stop now or must somebody from BHR have to get one last post in to finish up the game with 40 points? Rest assured, there will be future contests to be played out here.
Nobody please respond to Flashwing's troll. D'oh too late.
Pretty soon we'll all be on the floor laughing at the absurdity of all this.
You have no idea just how funny this was. My wife's starting to get a little upset with me here, but I just have to tell you that I told her earlier this discussion would eventually end with somebody saying "Thanks for proving my point" Luckily, nobody's drawn the inevitable analogy to Hitler yet though.
Reputation management is a bitch though isn't it?
So far, BHR has scored 39 points against the Pettit customers since I started this in the Turbo backpressure thread and Pettit has yet to enter the arena. Can we stop now or must somebody from BHR have to get one last post in to finish up the game with 40 points? Rest assured, there will be future contests to be played out here.
Nobody please respond to Flashwing's troll. D'oh too late.
Pretty soon we'll all be on the floor laughing at the absurdity of all this.
Dude, you have no idea!
06-15-2009, 01:19 AM
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Well then let him loose. Lets see just how many more points you can score. The worse that can happen is the forum moderators will get their fill of the drama and reinstate the vendor forum ban. (WTF happened with that anyway?)
06-15-2009, 02:57 AM
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Joff, it sure looks like you opened Pandora's Box
It's funny to read the past few pages and see how one e-fight spirals into a completely different tangent and others then get involved.
I swear internet forums will soon become the model for studying human physiology.
It's funny to read the past few pages and see how one e-fight spirals into a completely different tangent and others then get involved.
I swear internet forums will soon become the model for studying human physiology.
06-15-2009, 03:04 AM
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Any sweatshop in the world can put those ignition wires together properly, and for a lot less than what you guys are charging, I'm sure.
Do you have an employee at the GM Ignition Coil factory that inspects each component at every point of its product?
If he wants to call Jeff an *******, he has every right to
Do you have an employee at the GM Ignition Coil factory that inspects each component at every point of its product?
If he wants to call Jeff an *******, he has every right to
No, Delphi does that for us as part of their normal production process.
And OD would be absolutely correct in doing so!
I am completely burned-out and shall refrain further. Thx for the fun.
06-15-2009, 03:05 AM
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Ah, but what if I told you my last question was a trick to provoke another response because I'm addicted to the drama?
45 points!
Do you still feel like you're being called out?
I do apologize for that.
45 points!
Do you still feel like you're being called out?
Originally Posted by Chickenwafer
Joff, it sure looks like you opened Pandora's Box
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06-15-2009, 03:11 AM
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06-15-2009, 06:39 AM
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Joff--your pm box is full--appreciate your message.
I just want to be clear--I have nothing agaisnt Ray or the rest of BHR--only Jeff. And he is right there is no such thing as bad publicity.
Since this is no longer(for me) the RX8 forum--it is the BHR forum i am asking the admin mod to remove my name from the membership.
Those of you that know me know how to get in touch and I hope you do.
I dont have time to play with children anymore
rotor on guys
olddragger
I just want to be clear--I have nothing agaisnt Ray or the rest of BHR--only Jeff. And he is right there is no such thing as bad publicity.
Since this is no longer(for me) the RX8 forum--it is the BHR forum i am asking the admin mod to remove my name from the membership.
Those of you that know me know how to get in touch and I hope you do.
I dont have time to play with children anymore
rotor on guys
olddragger