Bastage

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Don't go dude, just use the ignore feature if he bothers you so much.

Phil's 8

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I have a very limited knowledge of "forums" but those I frequent all seem to become dramas of one sort or another. Some are fun others boring and a few offensive. I have even found myself getting drawn into the "drama" a few times. You know even with this "drama" I have learned more about the one mutual item we have in common...the RX8. There have been a few that left the forums that I was indifferent about and a few that I miss. Olddragger would be sorely missed if he leaves the forum. I would hope that he was just a little miffed and reconsiders. Most of what is said here are just words and opinions and should never be taken to heart. I would hope that Denny just ignores the "Drama" and continues with his work to make the 8 a better car.

endowdly

iTrader: (2)

^^ He still hasn't explained his use of diesel as a gear oil and I'm a little mystified.

JMKuco

Yes don't go man !!!

I will need your help too for my futur problems

Rote8

No, but most things related to the Pettit supercharger in the last few days is now buried.

You already have a bashing Moon vs Jeff thread, why not take it there, or is that thread not seeing enough visits?

Kane

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See what I get for Sleeping.... damn.

OD - Don't roll dude; I respect your decision either way - but if you would be so kind to PM me your info since I am in Florida and wanted to come visit this summer.

Striker-7

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Don't have the S/C yet, but have been watching this thread for months soaking up knowledge.

OD, your oil statement got lost in the noise, you talking about changing the crankcase oil for a Shell "Rotella" diesel grade, or it goes in the Pettit gearcase, or what?

joff

Now that everybody is watching:

Would like to advocate boycotting rx8club and moving the entire Pettit forum to rotarycarclub.com. Cheaper for Pettit, more respectable, and some guru RX7 expertise is already there to converse with. Small relatively new forum though, but definitely more civil and not controlled yet by vendor interests. The "build thread" sub-forum is perhaps its best idea IMHO.

Perhaps a fresh start is in order for us all. This forum seems to have a knack for bringing out the worst in people (including myself).

Kane

iTrader: (1)

I am already on RCC - were you asking me if I wanted to pick up sticks?

Charles R. Hill

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And to think, Jesse, that all you had to do to get the answers you allege you were seeking was walk 15 feet across the parking lot Saturday night and ask me what you wanted to know. When was the last time we communicated in any manner? Instead, you have opted for innuendo. And BHR are supposed to be the problematic ones?

This forum brings out the GENUINE in people, every little scrap thereof.

MazdaManiac

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I second the motion wholeheartedly.
I've been over there for about a year now and the quality of content, while sparse, is inspiring.

EDIT - The only caveat I'd like to add to my endorsement is that the RotaryCarClub forum is mostly RX-7 oriented and the RX-8 subsection is just a single sub-forum.
However, I'm sure the owners could be persuaded to spread it out if they saw an influx of RX-8 members and commensurate usage stats.

Bastage

iTrader: (1)

Nah, might as well stay here. They will just follow us wherever we go, they're like fleas.

You once told me you got the name of your company from a Tool song (The Pot), which has a lyric that's actually "Black Kettle" (not Black Halo). The song focuses on that whole pot calling the kettle black idiom.

Jesse's not the only one guilty of innuendo...

I'm sure I'm guilty of it too

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

Yep, I did tell you that and I also admitted that it was a misconstruction of the lyrics but I thought it sounded cool just the same. What a "breaking news story" you came up with on that one.

BTW, none of us at BHR "followed" anyone to this thread. We were dragged in by our friend, Jesse, here, who is a soft-spoken, likeable, and intellectual guy in real life.

Stop talking **** and we'll leave all of you alone.

Bastage

iTrader: (1)

Not a breaking news story, just kind of ironic that you're pointing the finger at someone for doing something that your entire company is becoming famous for doing, and your company's name is a misconstruction of a song that's about hypocrisy.

Last I checked it was you that was dragged into this thread, not your entire posse.

Your last sentence reminds me of this:



I'm not taking any of this personal, I hope you're not Charles.

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

Definitely not taking it personal, G. The sad part is that the entire time I was doing all I could for those with the Pettit S/C Kit (such as cost+shipping on Snow alky products, NGK Racing spark plugs, and whatever else I could pass on at no profit to BHR) I was the "good guy". Now that I have decided to put 100% of my own passions into my efforts by retiring from Ford Motor and starting BHR (which passions also require me to charge a fee for that which I choose to provide the RX-8 community) I am now the "bad guy" around here.

Every now and then many of us get into these tangles and heatedly debate our perspectives and, although it is discomforting much of the time, I am not going to allow them to taint the personal views I hold of the people with whom I am a fellow member of the RX8Club website. We can all be friends and, as I have already done, when you clearly articulate your position and it is based on your individual perspective(s) I will respect that and often agree. Even if it puts BHR in a less-than-ideal spotlight.

Yes, I have been known to screw up from time to time and, being human, I am sure I have many more mistakes for which I will have to assume responsibility. This particular matter is not one of them.

All of you are free to hold your opinions of BHR as you wish and I understand from where many of your frustrations come. But I refuse to be lectured by an extreme minority of people on this forum as to how I am to run BHR and who I choose to be part of my team. Many people fail to see the inherent arrogance they hold when they feel compelled to PM me and give me "constructive criticism", "guidance", and what have you while never even asking the simplest of questions of me.

BTW, G, your're no innocent bunny.

p.s. I JUST noticed (2.5 hrs. later!) that the gun in that illustration is an orange-tipped toy gun. THAT is some masterful imagery and analogy my Man!

Rote8

Do we have an ignore function?

Phil's 8

iTrader: (3)

Why carry this over to another forum. All you have to do is go to the user control panel and click on edit ignore list and enter their name. In the past I used it once for someone on this particular thread and since them had second thoughts and removed it. Just indicate the peeps you don't want to deal with and you will not be bothered by them. I don't even bother reading the quips that anyone posts here that does not deal with the Pettit supercharger or the questions back a forth on the mods to improve the s/c experience.

I have been involved with various forums with my work and local clubs. They all seem to succumb to infighting. Must be human nature. Again I ask that you all just stay here and talk to those you choose.

Rote8

Much better, thanks.

Phil's 8

iTrader: (3)

I miss Denny already........gonna ask a question and he's not there. Did not know he was mad at me to.

Kane

iTrader: (1)

Why was he mad at you too?

I think he was just over the whole gig.... maybe he'll cool off - nothing really worth getting that worked up over IMO.

Phil's 8

iTrader: (3)

Don't know why cuz we did PM a lot back and forth a lot. I hope he does cool off.

olddragger

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Phil and all--I am in no way upset with any of you. Its been great. It is only Jeff. After about 5 yrs on this forum and seeing what it is turning into did I make the decision to leave.
I am only posting now because I want the good people I have spoken with and some that I have met to understand that it has nothing to do with them at all.
It has come to the point that if i post anything-- certain folks seem to follow me around and try to critize/discredit me at every point and I am just tired of the game.
This forum should be fun and relaxing, but it got to the point that before I wrote anything I was thinking "OK, will this step on anyones toes? WIll this be an arguementive point" Stops being fun and starts being work. I have enough of work!
Seems also that if any of your ideas or findings are contary to a certain vendor then all hell breaks loose.
If i can help anyone --just pm me. I do have some new info concerning running deisal oil in our cars. Its a good thing. I am sure someone may tell me I am crazy about that also.lol
Olddragger

Red Devil

You should stick around and put those people on ignore and even if they respond to you just keep going...

Bastage

iTrader: (1)

Denny,

Just ignore him. He's becoming more of a joke, and I'm entertained by his ignorance almost as much as by the dozens of folks on this forum that think he's the god of tuning. Regardless of how many AccessPorts he has sold, he's still an amateur at best. The way he presents himself on this forum only reinforces it. I think people back him up for the same reason they backed up Mazsport. I'm pretty sure if a less assholish tuner presented himself he would be welcomed with parades of marching bands and convertible RX-8s filled with hot topless women.

Don't waste your time arguing with him.

MazdaManiac

iTrader: (3)

That's excellent.

Pretty self-absorbed to think that you are the only one that gets "followed around", isn't it?
No one is particularly interested in "discrediting" you (at least I'm not - I'm not interested in the individual, just the idea). But you have to be willing to stand up for what you assert.

Doesn't it? Those of us that spend a lot of time with these things have to deal with that all the time. Its a lot of work back up your ideas and the things you assert.

That statement is probably a good indicator of why you are having such a hard time with all of this.
There is no "certain vendor" that has taken this on. Its just me. You said it yourself in the opening statement.

Feel free to put me on ignore and keep making baseless assertions. I'll continue to clean up after you, whether or not it does you any good.


[[And remember - all you need to do to make me leave you alone again in here is to stop using my name or making any reference to the things I say or do in this thread. Its that simple.]]