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Old 08-07-2009, 10:16 AM
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it was the ignition---see my emergency help thread in the issues and probs
Dan --i dont like walbro--and I may take you up on the supra pump--more horse now.
OD

sorry--here is what happened:
ppreciate everyones help---------SHE IS RUNNING!!!!
Charlie at Mazcare is the man--talked with me a long time. He pointed me in the right direction, went over schematics with me, etc and I could not have gotten her going so fast without him. He suggested strongly to check the spark. SO I did and behold--- not any damn spark to the plugs--any plugs. ---wtf!! I traced it down and the coils grounding wire connector had came apart--probably from all the work i have been doing in which I had to raise car/engine. I dont have the oem pigtail thing--i have one single big wire mounted to the frame where the battery ground is mounted. ANyway made a new one and it fired right up.
The pump wasnt pumping because the engine wasnt getting spark and this is to keep from flooding the engine? This is what we figue--..
Learn something everyday. Sum Bitch!

THANKS CHARLIE YOU ARE THE MAN! Took time out from his busy shop day to guide me through--knowing he wouldnt make any money from this. Really cant ask for a better friend--he even is patient with stupid people like me!
If it wasnt for him I would have had to forfeit my track fee of $450 this w/e.
Repeat he is the MAN.
rotor on all
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:30 AM
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Cmon man - linky please!
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i feel as if there was some misunderstanding with my original question and i am sure i couldve gone into more detail with my question. but i was wonding if there was a warrenty on the supercharger parts if something were to be malfuctioned upon recieving. i understand that the engine would not be warrented or anything like that and i understand that. thank you all for your information tho.
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Hi woody,

yes I believe Pettit warranty their own parts, but as others said, just not engines etc!
As for details I have no idea, you should probably ask Pettit via email or phone call.....

PS Good news OD well done and great save. have a good track session.......
Old 08-07-2009, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JWoody
i feel as if there was some misunderstanding with my original question and i am sure i couldve gone into more detail with my question. but i was wonding if there was a warrenty on the supercharger parts if something were to be malfuctioned upon recieving. i understand that the engine would not be warrented or anything like that and i understand that. thank you all for your information tho.
Cam is a very reputable business man. There is some warranty on the super charger and it's component parts with the kit. You would really be better off asking Cam about how the warranty works. Actually I have never had a problem with any thing I have purchased from him. There are only a few vendors on the forum that I would rate as a 10 and he is one of them.

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Originally Posted by Hymee
So if you plugged a different pump into the harness and it worked, doesn't that mean you pump has had the richard?

Or am I missing something??

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the early pumps work fine on mine. the 09 does not. if i wire it direct with alligator clips it works. but i have not messed with it for a while.

i guess i need to start messing again..

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[QUOTE=olddragger;31

THANKS CHARLIE YOU ARE THE MAN! Took time out from his busy shop day to guide me through--knowing he wouldnt make any money from this. Really cant ask for a better friend--he even is patient with stupid people like me!
If it wasnt for him I would have had to forfeit my track fee of $450 this w/e.
Repeat he is the MAN.
rotor on all
olddragger[/QUOTE]

yes he is!!!!

i sent him a bottle jw black. he seemed to have liked it!

beers
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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
Cam is a very reputable business man. There is some warranty on the super charger and it's component parts with the kit. You would really be better off asking Cam about how the warranty works. Actually I have never had a problem with any thing I have purchased from him. There are only a few vendors on the forum that I would rate as a 10 and he is one of them.
I did have an issue with a weld, and I would never have noticed it.
Cam and Moon saw it immediately, Cam welded it on the weekend for me.
(I live close to Pettit)
Old 08-07-2009, 06:58 PM
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I did have an issue with a weld, and I would never have noticed it.
Cam and Moon saw it immediately, Cam welded it on the weekend for me.
(I live close to Pettit)
Lucky Dog,,,
Old 08-08-2009, 08:23 AM
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Hello fellow Pettit SC owners. I have been out of the loop for several months and to be honest I have only driven my 8 twice since June. I had lots to do this summer to include getting my house ready for sell. I’m planning to move to Orlando once I sell my house here in Lakeland in order to be closer to work, car shops, race tracks and so on. However, I have been keeping track on the SC tread developments. BTW Rotr8 your front bumper looks awesome.

Anyway, I have a question for the members that are running a Snow Performance meth injection kit. My Snow Performance electronic control box malfunctioned for the second time. The first time it happened Snow Performance replaced it for free. However the second time (last week) I call them and was told that it is out of warranty although it clearly states on the original product literature included in the original purchase that the Snow Performance parts have a lifetime replacement warranty. The only thing that they would do for me is to sell me a discounted control box for @ $150. Anyway, I don’t argue with vendors, I just stop buying from them. My control box sits inside the car and is not subject to harsh environmental conditions.

Here is the question. My Snow control box only works in the Boost Mode and I’m wondering if any of the Snow owners are using the control box on that mode rather than the MAF Mode.

Yes, the pump works fine. Yes, I do get voltage variations from my MAF wire. Yes, I checked all the wiring over and over again. However, if I apply air pressure using a vacuum hose while on the Boost Mode it does starts pumping meth.

Any input will be appreciated.
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Old 08-08-2009, 09:09 AM
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Whhoooaaa,,, was wondering where you went Juan,,,
Thanks for the compliment,,

Hope someone can help you figure your problem,,,
I have the CoolingMist meth setup(uninstalled) and am still debating on wether or not to install,,,

Good luck...
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Originally Posted by marsredr100
Here is the question. My Snow control box only works in the Boost Mode and I’m wondering if any of the Snow owners are using the control box on that mode rather than the MAF Mode.

Yes, the pump works fine. Yes, I do get voltage variations from my MAF wire. Yes, I checked all the wiring over and over again. However, if I apply air pressure using a vacuum hose while on the Boost Mode it does starts pumping meth.

Any input will be appreciated.
Sorry Juan, my controller is MAF only, I think Gleyner is the same as mine.
If your works on MAP mode, use it.
As long as it sprays under boost, I don't see a real problem.
The negative side is, something in that controller is broken and it may stop working completely when you least expect it.

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np out of mine and mine is in the engine compartment.
could it be your selector switch?
welcome back dude.
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So how was Road Atlanta Denny,,,
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Originally Posted by marsredr100
Hello fellow Pettit SC owners. I have been out of the loop for several months and to be honest I have only driven my 8 twice since June. I had lots to do this summer to include getting my house ready for sell. I’m planning to move to Orlando once I sell my house here in Lakeland in order to be closer to work, car shops, race tracks and so on. However, I have been keeping track on the SC tread developments. BTW Rotr8 your front bumper looks awesome.

Anyway, I have a question for the members that are running a Snow Performance meth injection kit. My Snow Performance electronic control box malfunctioned for the second time. The first time it happened Snow Performance replaced it for free. However the second time (last week) I call them and was told that it is out of warranty although it clearly states on the original product literature included in the original purchase that the Snow Performance parts have a lifetime replacement warranty. The only thing that they would do for me is to sell me a discounted control box for @ $150. Anyway, I don’t argue with vendors, I just stop buying from them. My control box sits inside the car and is not subject to harsh environmental conditions.

Here is the question. My Snow control box only works in the Boost Mode and I’m wondering if any of the Snow owners are using the control box on that mode rather than the MAF Mode.

Yes, the pump works fine. Yes, I do get voltage variations from my MAF wire. Yes, I checked all the wiring over and over again. However, if I apply air pressure using a vacuum hose while on the Boost Mode it does starts pumping meth.

Any input will be appreciated.
Mine is MAF only and still works.

I would call them and explain calmly to them that you are an educated user and are sure that the product is defective and not malfunctioning due to any fault of your own.

Also tell them that you have recommended/installed their systems for/in several of your friend's cars. Ask them to send you a MAF only version (less complexity means less probability of failure).

Seriously man, if they still don't agree to send you another one, tell them you will have your friend create a youtube video about how much Snow Performance's customer service sucks, and your friend who creates graphics will make stickers for your car stating such that will be visible at all of the drag racing and autocross events you go to.

Also ask them what their definition of "lifetime warranty" is.
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Lifetime Warranty = Covered for the lifetime of the part. E.g. If the part has an expected lifetime of 1 day, then you get a 1 day warranty... <duck>

Cheers,
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:56 PM
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Hymee's way of looking at the warranty comes from living upside down . Could be why I went AEM.
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LOL - I didn't say that is how my warranty works. I saw a Primus gas cylinder one time that said that the gas would last indefinitely. I thought it was magic. Then I realised what the words were saying.

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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
Hymee's way of looking at the warranty comes from living upside down . Could be why I went AEM.

Does the AEM kit use MAF or Pressure?
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Well--engine is blown. > :shock: :? :oops: :cry: :stuck: :whipped: :deadhorse:
I am now officially a non rx8 owner member. This car has left me beside the road 3 times. It has struck out.
I am really and seriously sad. I have put a lot of work/effort/time/money and emotions into that car. More than I have in any other one I have owned. It sure helped to bring me together with a bunch of unforgettable people.
Who would ever think a little plastic piece one halve the size of a dime would cause a motor to blow?

This is the offical cause of what happened.
It occurred on the back straight at RA. I was seriously surprising a zo6 and modified sti owners butts. But then it happened--developed a dead skip. I came off track and after exploring the cause I found it was caused by fuel starvation as a result of a fuel line leak caused by a very small plastic sealer present in the fuel rail fuel line. The gas line that connects the two fuel rail together(to the apv fuel injectors). There was gas pooled on top of the intake manifold when i came in. That was not good. It was actually steaming.
I found the plastic piece when i did a tear down of the injectors/fuel rail. Somehow it had worked its way a loose and fell out--i dont have a clue as too how. Very strange. Guess the snap lock piece had weaken over time? Anyway the number one rotor blew i guess because it is the furthest away from the gas line connector and it had the least supply/pressure?. Funny that my a/f ratios stayed ok at all times except exactly when it happened. Only one little episode of a misfire during an earlier session for maybe 1/2 sec. No detonation ever heard. Never over 7.5 K rpm. The sparkplug looked like a piece of toast. But that is what caused the lean condition that blew the engine.Anyway it my best guess.
Thats it. Fricking Gremblins. Its an infected car.

When i left RA it was obvious the engine wasnt smooth running when a load was placed on it--all kinds of misfires and it continued with a dead skip--but according to my data I still made 143 hp on one rotor!! It finally gave up on me totally about 30 miles from home. Like you turned the switch off. Coasted to a shady spot (it was 98F) and got the tow truck on the way. ASked him to bring me a diet coke (i was hot and thristy) and a stick of dynamite. I got the coke.
Checked it out tonight--buttoned it all up right --changed plugs, fuel lines and injectors in snug and tight. Put Roscoe in my lap for luck and tried to crank her. Now she will not hit a lick and I can hear that no compression sound. I will do a little compression check tomorrow--but hell I already know.
anyone know of a cheap but good compression engine and a person that may be interested in a good car--(after the gypsy voodoo exorcism) let me know.
Its been one hell of a ride.
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WTF!!!!
Dude, Denny you cant give up now,,, just get another engine and build it up yourself,,,
Cmon man you cant give up with all the work youve done,,,

Wow,,, I am so sorry to hear your loss,,,
But heads up ,,,,,
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Wow...that sucks. So you're really giving up on the RX-8? Any thoughts as to what car you'll get after this?
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Gotta have big wallet and bigger ***** to go FI to the track....

Come on Denny......

Build it up....and it will come
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omg! that is terrible! Stay strong OD. You are in a PTS state.

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After all the work you've done.....all the innovations you have achieved......It's only the moment, you will calm down. Hell when we choose to run on the ragged edge "**** happens". Fix that dam problem child and show that Z06 and STI where the bear does his thing in the woods.


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