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Old 02-26-2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JMKuco
Yes an awfull noise !
and it do not pump anything !

what to do now ?
What do you call prime ?! Can I fix it ?
Have a hard time finding an other one ...
Put power to it. Remove the hose between the "aftercooler" and the fluid reservoir on the "aftercooler" side. Put your lips on the hose and blow for 2-3 seconds. Quickly reattach the hose before water starts shooting out of the "aftercooler."

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SUCEEDED !!!!!

THANKS ALLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and I one more time improve my english because the french traduction for "lose prime" have no relation with the english
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Originally Posted by JMKuco

french traduction
think you meant translation there ?
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lol Yes !
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JMK, have you put any pics of your car up yet?
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Well got to run my first road course and I had a blast. Everything worked perfect except for the brakes. I got lots of fading cuz I’m running ceramic brake pads. That’s my only weak point in my brake system. I already have stainless steel braded brake lines and crosses drilled/slotted rotors. The other car owners were running Hawk HP Plus and reported no fading problems.

My R1R got better after the second lap and the car felt like riding on rails after the 5 lap. The track was 1.6 miles long and we started with 5 laps per session. Then we did 7 and later 10 for a total of over 50 laps or the equivalent of ¾ of a gas tank. I could it drive another session or so but I ran out of methanol (two gallons total) and the gas tank was reading below ¼ full.

Overall, the car ran flawlessly and everyone at the track was impressed. They liked the huge flames shooting out while downshifting. Day temps were in the low 60s and the engine coolant temp never got higher than 200F. The highest engine oil temp I noticed was 209F.

The video below is of my first 5 lap session. My camera batteries ran out of juice just after taking that video, duh! I was getting used to the track and figuring out how to enter and exit a wider apex turn (not like the once I’m used to on autocross). Also, I was able to pass the Miata and a couple of highly tuned (inside and out) N/A Hondas SI when we did the 7 and 10 lap session. However, I was not as aggressive as I wanted due to my brake fading issues. I could not run fast, brake hard and turn as you can hear and see just before the hairpin turn and the other three turns of the track.

Next road course is in May and that leaves me plenty of time to brake in a new set of Hawk HP Plus and a fresh batch of ATE Super Blue brake fluid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2dT3j__MqA

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Originally Posted by california style
JMK, have you put any pics of your car up yet?
I am waiting for my new bumper !
It should arrived soon ! I choose a classic one as I need the maximum air flow for cooling my engine.
It should arrived soon.
When every thing is ok : picts !! it's a promise

I am also waiting for my BMC air filter
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Originally Posted by marsredr100
Well got to run my first road course and I had a blast. Everything worked perfect except for the brakes. I got lots of fading cuz I’m running ceramic brake pads. That’s my only weak point in my brake system. I already have stainless steel braded brake lines and crosses drilled/slotted rotors. The other car owners were running Hawk HP Plus and reported no fading problems.

My R1R got better after the second lap and the car felt like riding on rails after the 5 lap. The track was 1.6 miles long and we started with 5 laps per session. Then we did 7 and later 10 for a total of over 50 laps or the equivalent of ¾ of a gas tank. I could it drive another session or so but I ran out of methanol (two gallons total) and the gas tank was reading below ¼ full.

Overall, the car ran flawlessly and everyone at the track was impressed. They liked the huge flames shooting out while downshifting. Day temps were in the low 60s and the engine coolant temp never got higher than 200F. The highest engine oil temp I noticed was 209F.

The video below is of my first 5 lap session. My camera batteries ran out of juice just after taking that video, duh! I was getting used to the track and figuring out how to enter and exit a wider apex turn (not like the once I’m used to on autocross). Also, I was able to pass the Miata and a couple of highly tuned (inside and out) N/A Hondas SI when we did the 7 and 10 lap session. However, I was not as aggressive as I wanted due to my brake fading issues. I could not run fast, brake hard and turn as you can hear and see just before the hairpin turn and the other three turns of the track.

Next road course is in May and that leaves me plenty of time to brake in a new set of Hawk HP Plus and a fresh batch of ATE Super Blue brake fluid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2dT3j__MqA
Looks like fun - to bad your battery went dead on the camera, would have liked to have seen more.
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Great Dude---sounds like the bug has bit
I knew your brakes would be getting hot on that course as you really didnt have any cool down time for them.
Did you run with nanny on or off?
Keep your rpms down?
How much oil did you use---maybe 1/2 quart?
You used 2GALLONS of w/m?! Dang dude thats a lot. What were your intake temps?
Maybe because your overall rpms were probably high?
DOnt forget to do the post track maintainence
YOU HAVE TO COME SEE US. If you think that was good---you aint seen nothing yet
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Well, I got my fuel pump working again. Now I need to reconnect the fuel line. I remember reading somewhere its not a good idea to re-use the old fuel line/connector. Does anyone have some insight??
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Originally Posted by morkusyambo
Well, I got my fuel pump working again. Now I need to reconnect the fuel line. I remember reading somewhere its not a good idea to re-use the old fuel line/connector. Does anyone have some insight??
AN -6?

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Is that the part#?
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Also, has anyone tried to upgrade their pump to the 255lph Walbro??
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i use the 09 pump assembly
What ended up being the prob?
the fuel line that connects by the power brake booster is ok to use again. the one not to use and i have mentioned is the one fthat connects the 2 backs of fuel injectors.

Juan I see you found that maita.
glad you had fun and you are safe.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
Great Dude---sounds like the bug has bit
Yeap, I already got the brake pads (Hawk HP Plus) and ATE on its way.
I knew your brakes would be getting hot on that course as you really didnt have any cool down time for them.
Did you run with nanny on or off?
50/50 nanny help me with the brake fadding but when off I had better acceleration of the turns
Keep your rpms down?
Hell no...all the way to 8.2 thanks to the meth addiction.
How much oil did you use---maybe 1/2 quart?
Haven't checked it yet. I premix with MMO
You used 2GALLONS of w/m?! Dang dude thats a lot. What were your intake temps?
I remember somewhere around 110F by the end of the 15 lap session with 68F ambient temps.
Maybe because your overall rpms were probably high?
Again, hell yeah!!!
DOnt forget to do the post track maintainence
Working on it.
YOU HAVE TO COME SEE US. If you think that was good---you aint seen nothing yet
Maybe in Savanna by the end of the year.
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Hey Juan
If I may suggest something---and you may have them already---get the brake "speedbleeders" --makes bleeding the brakes a one man job and easy has heck to do.
Summit racing has them. I think I got "Earls" brand. Inexpensive.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
Hey Juan
If I may suggest something---and you may have them already---get the brake "speedbleeders" --makes bleeding the brakes a one man job and easy has heck to do.
Summit racing has them. I think I got "Earls" brand. Inexpensive.
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Thanks for the tip OD but I have a better TOOL...my 16 year old son.

It is free labor except to the feeding.
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LOL!
roger that
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Originally Posted by olddragger
i use the 09 pump assembly
What ended up being the prob?
the fuel line that connects by the power brake booster is ok to use again. the one not to use and i have mentioned is the one fthat connects the 2 backs of fuel injectors.

Juan I see you found that maita.
glad you had fun and you are safe.
I think the pump was going bad, which in turn caused the 20A fuse to blow. I ended up replacing the pump(thanks Juan), all 4 blue "relays" and several fuses.

Just to clarify, we are talking about the fuel line w/red clip that connects right next to the blower manifold??

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thats all strange--but glad it is fixed now.
the connection that need replacing is the line that connects the fuel injector rails.
the line down by the power brake booster blower intake/oil dipstick etc can be reused---but do inspect the fittings are ok
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LOL!
roger that
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I forgot to add that the day of the track event I was assigned to run with the Miata, two Honda Civics SI and a Mitsu Lancer (non EVO). The other group consisted of a Viper, two Corvettes (not Z06), BMW 3 series and a Nissan 370Z. They figure that my RX8 didn’t have the cojones to hang out with the big boys. They didn’t know that my 8 is SUPERCHARGED. Halfway thru the track day they ask me if I wanted to race with the big boys cuz they figure that the Hondas and Miata can’t keep up with me. I told them that next time cuz I was having brake fading issues. Anyway, the 370Z was having problems with oil temps. Every time he went over 3 laps on a session his engine oil temp reached over 290F thus sending the car to limp mode. The owner told me that he is planning to install an oil cooler like Nissan is putting on the 370Z Nismo model. And that’s the rest of the story.
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lol--i get that too---surprised looks when i am pulling them on the straights. I love it--especially the ones that have track against other 8's.
I had a STI owner cpme up to me and tell me "Man you are fast, when your car takes set---its GONE." LoL
probably a good thing to stay in the grp you were in. Miata drivers know the momentum car lines and usually those are the best to take. he was not doing badly at all--study his lines and then what you were doing. As yourself why you were not pulling him on corner exit as much as you thought you would?
I stay the hell away from vipers--they usually have drivers that dont know how to drive them well and that makes that car the most unpredicable car on the track--they have such massive lift throttle chassis load changes that it takes an experienced driver to controll them.

When you change pads dont forget to clean the heck out of the rotors and then bed the pads good 1st thing.

Yep z's and 35's have cooling problems too---sometimes on longer tracks the trans also get hot
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I would rather drive fast in a slower group than be in a fast group with the high HP idiots that can't drive.....

Every incident I have seen at the track was the "fast" group with the Ferrari's and Porches...and the middle aged men with no clue, other than a large pocket book

No offense to an age group that I belong
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lol--totally agree dan---totally.
Had a porsche gt 3 driver get fustrated in not leaving me at Roebling road until he spun right in front of me at turn 5 exit--THEN the idiot (and he was an instructor with his student in the car with him!) came BACK across the track still out of control. SO close our eyeballs actually met! i was 2 car lenghts behind him entering the turn --staying a safe distance away.
Idiot.
Roebling has a LOT of run off room and he didnt use it.
When I have a student i constantly remind them ---smooth is fast-- dont concentrate on the speed--concentrate on smooth and the speed will naturally come.
Beginning drivers also fall prey to what we call "The Red Mist". It is more apparant in the higher HP cars. Its means that the driver will start focusing on catching the car in front of him to the point they forget what they are doing and are concentrating on catching that car no matter what. They usually end up overdriving and start turning slower lap times or spinning out. I am sure you have seen that!
As soon as Juan gets his brakes sorted and gets on a track he will be a really fast learner.
Now if i can only get an 09 trans in his car, a better fuel pump, and talk him into keeping his revs down just a little---
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Originally Posted by olddragger
As soon as Juan gets his brakes sorted and gets on a track he will be a really fast learner.
Now if i can only get an 09 trans in his car, a better fuel pump, and talk him into keeping his revs down just a little---
I never had an issue with my fuel pump as long as the fuel tank is over a 1/4 of a tank full. I have no problems installing 09 trans as long as someone donates one (I'll pay for the shipping) and keeping my revs down??? are you serious??? Revs to 8.2 and sucking meth like there is no tomorrow.


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