olddragger

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Maybe that is the goal of some--to get the thread closed.
Why some seem to have to overly criticize a particular FI kit is beyound me.
When they do this then they criticize every owner of that kit. It just doesnt make sense. We do get real tired of this.
Its obvious it is just for his own entertainment. Maybe he needs to get out more or get married? Maybe he just cant help it--bless his heart.

If this thread has to be closed because of the actions of one member then this forum is not developing into the mature and useful forum I thought, in time, it would. Sad. Oh well. It is what it is. And Paul you have a very good point.

The reaction to what I have just posted will be interesting to me. Others please do not PM me about this. If you cant say it openly then I dont want to hear about it.

To answer the question about DD. Its no secret of mine and for many others who use their Pettit car's for their primary driver. I have driven 1K mile one way trips etc etc. I drive multiple track events per year which equals to at least 1K miles a year track miles and also about 10K per year on the street. It also got me home on one rotor (100 mile trip on a 97F degree day in stop and go Atlanta traffic) after I blew an engine due to a fuel line fitting leaking and causing a lean out while running at Road Atlanta. I was making about 140 hp on one rotor!
I have also slung a belt off due to my failure to retighted the idler pulley after doing something(forgot what) and the car ran fine to get me to work and then back home. Down on power but no problems!
olddragger

Phil's 8

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Last time I looked the name of this thread is "Pettit Super Charger Owners" so calling those that post here "fanboy/owners is correct. There is some misinformation here as with all threads in this Forum. There is sometimes tension and disagreement on the legitimacy of posts and the fit of the kit. Is this not the reason for an open forum?

If you and "a lot of folks" wish this thread dead than ask the Mods to kill it. In the mean time I will enjoy the banter between Pettit Owners and those wishing to become one or trying to fix short comings.

Paul,you seem to have rather negative attitude and seem to consider all others as "stupid people". I guess I qualify because I enjoy this thread.

Phil's 8

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Unless I read the postings wrong (correct me if I'm wrong), MM and BHR are not against the Pettit super charger but were not happy with the way it was marketed as a complete kit. The install directions did not make them happy and they find a few other things objectionable but they are not against it.

Yes sometimes I wince when things are mentioned but I think the mention of short comings is leading to a better unit.

WingleBeast

Agreed, pointing out shortcomings only helps people produce solutions. Look at how it worked for the greddy

olddragger

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Hey Phil!
How are ya old man? I am about to catch ya--be 61 in September, but i can still do a spinning back heel kick over your head! Lol.
Thanks again for the info on the airfilter.

Concerning MM's posts. It has to be for his own entertainment when he says--and I quote--
"Pettit--one of the most poorly cobbled together ways of implementing a supercharger"
and states he "has several years of addressing and correcting of the Pettit kit".

I think the guys are going to get a "I hate the Pettit supercharger kit" printed on a T shirt and send it to him. Maybe he can get one of his models to wear it or wear it while he is putting in another engine? Better yet-- have one of the models put his engine in
OD

Red Rex

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How about we just stick to the pro's and con's of the Pettit kit. After all its not the "Pettit supercharger kit vs all other kits" thread. Then maybe some actual progress can be made instead of "well MY kit flows THIS much air and MY kit has THIS amount of miles". While somewhat helpful, I think going on a case by case basis for these kits is ultimately useless. Everyone has different goals using different tunes created by different people.

My suggestion: you can do research and start up the old Renesis turbocharger vs Renesis supercharger battle that will create a data black hole in the internet or your can find someone local/a few hours away who actually has a kit and ask to meet up. Same principal as test driving a new car. You can look at the dyno sheets and look at the power curve and kinda sorta guess what it would be like, but until you're actually in the car you won't be able to tell. Or ****, just call Pettit and ask "why should I buy your kit?". Limiting yourself to just this forum usually gets you 3 things. Turbo guys who may say the kit is more/less garbage and you should get a turbo, people who own the kit and say **** the turbo guys its awesome, or NA people like me who are indifferent and just say do more research. Branch out.

carbonRX8

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Superchargers suck! Y'all shoulda gone turbo.

marsredr100

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Glad you figured that one and hopefully by yourself. The sucking is also relative to the engine rpm, intake filter choice and many other variables.

Phil's 8

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While you have some good input you are wrong about this not being a Pettit s/c thread......Look at the name of the thread. I would be glad to contribute to a generic super charger thread but would just get drowned out by the Turbo owners. I have what I desired and would not change for anything but it's not for everyone.

You will have a problem catching me......soon to be 68 and feeling the age. Jeff (MM) (as is all of BHR) is always there to help me with my Pettit and the only thing(s) I hear from him (them) is that he feels that more time should have been spent on the total package of the kit. I alway accuse him of being anti SC but he is not really but is somewhat of a perfectionist and feels everyone who realizes a product should be also.

I like the "t" idea. The only spinning back kick I could do is falling down into a chair to rest

You "shoulda gone" to another forum with your bullshit....... Neither I or any one else asked you for your opinion nor did you contribute any constructive input any where I can find.

carbonRX8

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MazdaManiac

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Uh, maybe you should pay attention to one of your compatriots:

This is EXACTLY it.

So, OD, stop being just a fanboi and start being an enthusiast and you will feel much much more entertained by what you believe I do for just my own entertainment.

Red Rex

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Note I said pro's and con's of the Pettit kit itself and NOT the pro's and con's of all FI kits and how they compare to the Pettit kit.

Phil's 8

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I misinterpreted your comments......

Charles R. Hill

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To buttress Phil's observation, maybe ask "Dondo" what Easy and I thought of his used Pettit S/C kit that we just installed for him in Seattle? It was a bit of a challenge (and for reasons not necessarily related to the design of the kit) but neither Erick nor I bitched during the installation any more than we do anything else we install. Hell, Easy and I didn't even bitch that much at EACH OTHER during the installation!

The kit installed properly, the car immediately started and ran properly (until Jeff can finish the tune, anyway), and Dondo is happy. What else matters?

laythor

what matters is that some people who own a product get very butt-hurt when anything bad is said about it.

don't you know people arent allowed to enjoy something till everyone agrees with them? DUH

Charles R. Hill

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This is more like it. BHR's pathology all the way!

Red Rex

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**** happens, no biggy.


Anyway that brings another aspect up. You can't really go wrong with any of the FI kits out there. They all need a little bit of fine tuning (some more than others) but I doubt once its assembled you'll say "man this blows I should've gotten a turbo/supercharger". When everyone is arguing about why their kit is better than everyone else's, its actually a good thing (to some extent).

MazdaManiac

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No one is really arguing about which end result is better.
The argument lies in how much effort is required to get to a satisfactory result and how well that result is a mirror of the marketing that was used to promote the kit in the first place.

olddragger

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well i do enjoy my poorly cobbled together implemented supercharger Pettit kit a lot.
Implications insist that I should.
Maybe it would be better if I put some more duct tape on it and I can always bring attention to the meatball flag decal on my car.
This schizoaffective and histronic personally disorder theme is long worn out.

Since there are a lot of pages on this thread and no one wants to read all of them--can anyone sum up the ideas on how the kit can be improved?
OD

MazdaManiac

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That is because you - like everyone else - has invested a lot of time in making it right.

Flashwing

Fixed. The key point is the serious added expense at getting it right. My gripes are with the production, design, and marketing of this kit...not the kit's performance or final outcome.

olddragger

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Ok---whats does it take to make the kit right?
They need to be listed--for all to see and learn from--??

MazdaManiac

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OK.
So you seriously don't listen to anything that is posted around here, right?

california style

jeez! I was happy the thread was saved, check back in to see a 4 page or so sh1tst0rm!
As usual!

Well I have a daily driver RX8, Pettit supercharged, which I have had for a couple of years now. I still love it, and thrash it every so often, sometimes for fun, sometimes to see what it can do.

As This thread shows, in a recent performance car magazine shootout in the UK, I came 3rd overall in the sprint test they did, only beaten by 2 full on race cars, fully track prepped with slicks. And they beat me by less than a second. And there is a list of very impressive cars below me too.

And Jeff, as you gave me a load of unnecessary grief last time, when i was on a fun day at Auto X, hows about some congrats on a serious bit of RX8 representing.

And less ruckus everyone! this is a thread for the Pettit SC community to share tips, tales and fun, and help potential new owners, or new owners out.

Flashwing

I know I'm not nearly as jaded as Jeff is with this process so I'll try and explain this as clearly and simply as I can so those of you with PhD's can understand what I'm saying.

You should NOT have to make a shopping list of improvements to a forced induction kit. No company has any business selling a "kit" advertised as "complete" when it has as many issues as the Pettit kit has. Cooling issues, high blower temps, intake issues, a **** poor choice for engine management, need for filter relocation, belt slippage etc. etc.

The fact that YOU, the customer, are expected to pick up the slack and invest more of your hard earned cash into a kit that is supposed to be complete is baffling. Pettit is well aware of these shortcomings and does nothing to support you all. They are not here on this forum giving you technical advice. They are not making updates to the kit and distributing them to existing customers. In fact, they abandoned this forum a long time ago it seems. Meanwhile, you all have to fend for yourselves in hopes of fixing these issues. Well, unless you are willing to continue opening your wallet.

And yet, you all continue to carry the flag! A company that didn't see the value in remaining a part of a FREE online community supported by its customers.

What upsets me, what upsets our team is the negligence that was exercised with the production, marketing and back end support of this product. No way I would have ever signed off on a kit like this with these kinds of setbacks.

Any kit will perform well if you put enough money into it. The key, the point of the matter is you are literally spending twice the money of other kits and getting maybe 2/3 of the performance. Then you have to spend even more money to get it to run reliably on a daily driver or track platform. From a pure cost vs. benefit standpoint this kit belongs in the "Mods I regret" thread.

The longer I've been involved in this industry the more I understand the difference between turbo and supercharger to be largely personal preference from a human standpoint. On paper, I have my opinions about which I would go with. From a people perspective, it's all about feeling. You all have your preferences and there's nothing wrong with that.

My issues with this kit have everything to do with circumstances all prior to you turning the key and starting the motor. After that, different strokes for different folks.

If that's the case, I have a couple tips. Buyer beware, but if you dare then be sure to come talk to us and we'll make sure you've got every angle covered.