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Old 03-18-2008, 10:40 PM
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I'm sure he didn't, but he'll pretend that he did, because he pretends to know everything
Tried to call you Saterday. You missed the fun, I finaly got to rescue a jeep so that makes 2 H3s 1 F-350 2 F-150s and a land rover. It sucks for that guy, he got his GFs less then 2,000 mile old Jeep stuck in up to its gas cap, sucked water into the tank, they had it bad.
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No I haven't done this. Is this something that needs to be done? Would this resolve the issue I've got?
YES!
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Originally Posted by lolachampcar
YES!
^^^^---- What he said.

The Crank Angle Sensor is sensitive to being moved or bumped - i.e. if it has been removed and re-installed. But the deeper issue is what caused the movement in the first place, as I'm assuming you didn't remove it during the install?

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Yeh true, you coulda bumped it during your instal of the blower crank pully.
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Hey Hymee, hows your latest endevor doing, I figure you have it mounted and running buy now. Im kinda curios on the harmonics on the air to air I/C with the bigger blower.
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Originally Posted by Hymee
^^^^---- What he said.

The Crank Angle Sensor is sensitive to being moved or bumped - i.e. if it has been removed and re-installed. But the deeper issue is what caused the movement in the first place, as I'm assuming you didn't remove it during the install?

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Didn't remove it but who know if it was knocked. Will certainly try it when I get home. That would be great if all I had to do was reset that.
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well at least you know now it is ignition! No obvious skip in the engine--right?
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During a Pettit S/C install the sensor isn't moved but the trigger wheel is. Nearly the same effect. Anytime I mess with either the sensor, the wheel, or disconnect the battery, I reset the profile.
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Originally Posted by Moon Assad
Hey Hymee, hows your latest endevor doing, I figure you have it mounted and running buy now. Im kinda curios on the harmonics on the air to air I/C with the bigger blower.
I try not to pollute this thread with specific info on my setup, mainly out of respect for Cam.

But since you asked... I have been concentrating on my reflash solution mainly, as there is no point in putting it all in the car without having management. I could have done the MoTeC thing like we did on the first two, but it is cleaner if I waitied until my solution is baked.

BTW - It has already been mounted in my car for check measurements. I'll resist posting pictures here for the reasons mentioned above, but they can be found elsewhere.

I'm not worried about the so called harmonics as this style of blower and air-air setup had proven itself in another application in our "family".

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Old 03-19-2008, 04:03 PM
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The air-air should be excellent in a daily-driver scenario.
Add the meth-injection for the extreme climate folks and you have a winner.
Air-water becomes an inter-heater shortly after you begin to drive the car hard.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
well at least you know now it is ignition! No obvious skip in the engine--right?
OD
Didn't get to it tonight. But the car sounds great during idle.
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Well it looks as though everything is fixed. I reset the e-shaft and haven't gotten a code since. I haven't really gotten to take the car out yet but will tomorrow. I must really thank everyone for all the help I received. I now just have to finish replacing my AFR gauge and I'll be all set. I did take the car out for a quick spin and I must say WOW!
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Please log some data. It is near impossible (in my opinion) to get meaningful data throughout the rpm range by looking at an A/F meter. Logging data will allow you to verify for yourself exactly what you have for timing, A/F ratios and how your Long Term Fuel Trims develop.

It is worth mentioning here that you can start building LTFT by taking a warmed up car and going steady state for a few miles after clearing your trims. For example, find a long stretch of road and set your cruse control at 40 mph in 4th gear or 50 mph in fifth gear then drive for four to five miles. You may **** some people off if you are in a 45 or 55 mph zone but you will also be able to watch LTFT build (see attached example). Doing this will allow you to form your own opinion about your air intake system and its associated MAF calibration.

It is a nice SC kit and not cheap. I think you would do yourself a service to finish the installation by checking the overall performance with logging.
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Hey Dog...
i suggest you get an EFI Dude!!! a very inexpensive tool to monitor these things...


PS...Bill....is the Dude supposed to be flashing green while in the port..I just noticed it last nite....

PSS...i did a drive last nite on the highway for about 4-5 miles (around 60-65mph)and checked the LTFTs...still reading "zero"
I will continued to test with my "home-made" MAF housing..

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Originally Posted by shinka213
Hey Dog...
i suggest you get an EFI Dude!!! a very inexpensive tool to monitor these things...


PS...Bill....is the Dude supposed to be flashing green while in the port..I just noticed it last nite....

PSS...i did a drive last nite on the highway for about 4-5 miles (around 60-65mph)and checked the LTFTs...still reading "zero"
I will continued to test with my "home-made" MAF housing..

When the dongle is a Data Logger-

Slow Green Blink- Waiting on Key On
Faster Green Blink- Waiting for RPM signal so logging will start (Key is On)
Honken Green Blink- Logging Away

As for "Home-Made", that has bad connotations and your most elegant solution seems to be working just fine thank you.
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Originally Posted by Dogpound48
Well it looks as though everything is fixed. I reset the e-shaft and haven't gotten a code since. I haven't really gotten to take the car out yet but will tomorrow. I must really thank everyone for all the help I received. I now just have to finish replacing my AFR gauge and I'll be all set. I did take the car out for a quick spin and I must say WOW!
Yea pedal dance!!!!
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Originally Posted by lolachampcar
You may **** some people off if you are in a 45 or 55 mph zone
With al the Q-tips driving around Florida, especially the Q-tip “Snow Birds”, it is a common occurrence. Not to mention driving on the wrong side of the road.
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Congrats on finding the fix, Dogpound. Enjoy, and watch out for 3rd with the DSC off - she'll scoot sideways after 6K WOT! Yeehaaah!
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Originally Posted by lolachampcar
When the dongle is a Data Logger-

As for "Home-Made", that has bad connotations and your most elegant solution seems to be working just fine thank you.
thanks for the clarification Bill



if it aint broke....dont fix it!!!
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just got my "new" engine in and running. A little compression really helps
Between one weekend of working on it while it was snowing(Im in Ga.!) and the next w/e while working on it there was a tornado(The Atlanta one) and the wind was so hard it blew a squirrel out of a tree that landed on the hood of my car while I was under it ---it is now going.
In the process i have learned a few things i would like to share.
1- the mazsport ignition system really looks good mounted up front and in veiw---and it works so well---i dont know if it is the higher compression engine or the new coils but this engine is so smooth. Velveeta smooth.
2- it is not good to have an exhaust leak (i removed my secondary air pump and plugged that hole up) and a wide band---it really throws it off and causes some nervousness. Can anyone say Lomotil!?
3- I do not run synthetic oil anymore , i will premix.
4- I run the rx 7 plugs all trailing with the correct spacers.
5- A double resonated midpipe and the rb catback will make the car sound ALMOST oem during normal driving but gives it some authority during those spirited times!
6- you can never have too many zip ties.
7 --the trans is a bitch to get back in. Tight pilot bearing
9- once you get all the attachments off a rotory engine you can pick it up using just your muscles and move it across the shed..
8- pilot bearing removal will make you almost loose Jesus. Ended up having to drill mine out with a dremel--and i did have the good puller.
10--your dog will ALWAYS get in the car with you when you are working on all those gauge wires.
11-- the family will celebrate when they hear it running again--- that means they may start seeing you again. And can ask for money. (I have teenage girls)
12 -- an additional heat shield over the header is a GOOD thing.
13-- the most hard to get too hose will always be the one that has a just a LITTLE leak---guaranteed.
enough for now--have to go purdy her up some.
olddragger
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Heck, did I miss something?

Cheers,
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Na--I just needed a fresher engine, got a good deal on a complete one with good compression, wanted one to play(my old one) with and the wife wasnt looking. It was Karma talking to me..
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Originally Posted by lolachampcar
Please log some data. It is near impossible (in my opinion) to get meaningful data throughout the rpm range by looking at an A/F meter. Logging data will allow you to verify for yourself exactly what you have for timing, A/F ratios and how your Long Term Fuel Trims develop.

It is worth mentioning here that you can start building LTFT by taking a warmed up car and going steady state for a few miles after clearing your trims. For example, find a long stretch of road and set your cruse control at 40 mph in 4th gear or 50 mph in fifth gear then drive for four to five miles. You may **** some people off if you are in a 45 or 55 mph zone but you will also be able to watch LTFT build (see attached example). Doing this will allow you to form your own opinion about your air intake system and its associated MAF calibration.

It is a nice SC kit and not cheap. I think you would do yourself a service to finish the installation by checking the overall performance with logging.
Just ordered the logger. I decided it would be stupid to screw something up over $150. Everythign seems to running good and this way I can see for sure.
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excellent Dog!!
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Originally Posted by olddragger
just got my "new" engine in and running. A little compression really helps
Between one weekend of working on it while it was snowing(Im in Ga.!) and the next w/e while working on it there was a tornado(The Atlanta one) and the wind was so hard it blew a squirrel out of a tree that landed on the hood of my car while I was under it ---it is now going.
In the process i have learned a few things i would like to share.
1- the mazsport ignition system really looks good mounted up front and in veiw---and it works so well---i dont know if it is the higher compression engine or the new coils but this engine is so smooth. Velveeta smooth.
2- it is not good to have an exhaust leak (i removed my secondary air pump and plugged that hole up) and a wide band---it really throws it off and causes some nervousness. Can anyone say Lomotil!?
3- I do not run synthetic oil anymore , i will premix.
4- I run the rx 7 plugs all trailing with the correct spacers.
5- A double resonated midpipe and the rb catback will make the car sound ALMOST oem during normal driving but gives it some authority during those spirited times!
6- you can never have too many zip ties.
7 --the trans is a bitch to get back in. Tight pilot bearing
9- once you get all the attachments off a rotory engine you can pick it up using just your muscles and move it across the shed..
8- pilot bearing removal will make you almost loose Jesus. Ended up having to drill mine out with a dremel--and i did have the good puller.
10--your dog will ALWAYS get in the car with you when you are working on all those gauge wires.
11-- the family will celebrate when they hear it running again--- that means they may start seeing you again. And can ask for money. (I have teenage girls)
12 -- an additional heat shield over the header is a GOOD thing.
13-- the most hard to get too hose will always be the one that has a just a LITTLE leak---guaranteed.
enough for now--have to go purdy her up some.
olddragger
Glad to see you back, Denny


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