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Old 02-07-2012 | 04:03 PM
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I think there's some room for improvement, better turbine entrance angle would help, use of an external wastegate, also from what I've read a wastegate preferred manifold design is better.
Sure - but now you are not talking about a Greddy kit ....
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Sure - but now you are not talking about a Greddy kit ....
Lol I know back to the greddy kit.

Ok so what happens with my build depends on how soon I can sell the Esmeril Kit, but I'm thinking I'm going to go with the GT3071R or maybe even this GT3076R.
http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...Category_Code=

Making the necessary changes I don't see as a big obstacle and I have a daily driver so I can have some down time.
Old 02-07-2012 | 04:46 PM
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This skyline housing looks like the greddy turbo housing, ATP said that they can put a gt3071r or 76r in that housing.
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Have you looked at the links I've posted to ATP's site? The housing is not the problem.
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This skyline housing looks like the greddy turbo housing, ATP said that they can put a gt3071r or 76r in that housing.

You could clock that to work but I'm not sure on the actuator bracket if it would sit right when moved. The oil drain looks like it is on top in that pic as well. Is it water cooled?
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I have looked at the links, this is the same stuff people have been talking about for a while now. The reason I brought up the skyline housing is because the stock greddy turbo is used as a bolt on upgrade for older skylines. If the compressor and turbine housing are the same as the T618Z, then in theory you will only have to worry about the oil feed and wastegate.
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You could clock that to work but I'm not sure on the actuator bracket if it would sit right when moved. The oil drain looks like it is on top in that pic as well. Is it water cooled?
Here is the link for that particular turbo.http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=GRT
I'm guessing if they put a GT30 in that housing it will be water cooled, not sure though.
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Originally Posted by kma5783
Lol I know back to the greddy kit.

Ok so what happens with my build depends on how soon I can sell the Esmeril Kit, but I'm thinking I'm going to go with the GT3071R or maybe even this GT3076R.
http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...Category_Code=

Making the necessary changes I don't see as a big obstacle and I have a daily driver so I can have some down time.
obviously you wont be trying to fit a 4" intake down low .....
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obviously you wont be trying to fit a 4" intake down low .....
Nope

Check out the drop down box for Compressor housing options - T04E Style 2.75" Inlet 2" Outlet
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Originally Posted by po_snake
I have looked at the links, this is the same stuff people have been talking about for a while now. The reason I brought up the skyline housing is because the stock greddy turbo is used as a bolt on upgrade for older skylines. If the compressor and turbine housing are the same as the T618Z, then in theory you will only have to worry about the oil feed and wastegate.
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Here is the link for that particular turbo.http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=GRT
I'm guessing if they put a GT30 in that housing it will be water cooled, not sure though.
I think what ATP is saying is they can fit the same style Turbine housing to the GT3071/76R which is what I've posted in those links with the T25 Inlet Flange and 5 Bolt Outlet.
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I think what ATP is saying is they can fit the same style Turbine housing to the GT3071/76R which is what I've posted in those links with the T25 Inlet Flange and 5 Bolt Outlet.
I agree with you about the turbine side. I was talking about the compressor housing as well.
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that skyline turbo would be good for autoX probably would have almost no lag full boost at like 2500-3500 rpms all the way to 8-8500rpms which would be awesome, but its rated at 310hp which is good but I think he's looking for more like 330RWHP or better.
Can any actuator be use on the 3076R, and 4 in. intake piping is no go right?
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Originally Posted by po_snake
I agree with you about the turbine side. I was talking about the compressor housing as well.
ATP says they can use that Compressor housing with the 3071/76R? Would the .42 AR housing be to small to support the flow of the larger wheel at high rpm?
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Did anyone check out the borg warner series of EFR turbo's?

http://www.motoiq.com/industry_partn...o_systems.aspx

also if you look down below to the #11 post there are some pics of the width and length of the turbos the borg warner is thinner but longer. not sure if sny of this is ideal but heres some info:

http://www.turbodriven.com/en/perfor...downloads.aspx
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EFR 6758
275 - 450 HP Turbo
Turbo Features
• Gamma-Ti turbine wheel • Dual ceramic ball bearing assembly with metal cage • Forged milled extended tip compressor wheel • Stainless steel turbine housing • Water cooled bearing housing • Large internal wastegate • Compressor recirculation valve (a.k.a BOV) • Boost control solenoid valve • Standard T25 mounting flange
Not included with turbo assemblies:
• Speed sensor • Turbine outlet V-Band • Turbine inlet gasket • Oil drain gasket or drain port fitting
Turbo Frame Dimensions
63.5mm (2.50)
Oil inlet fitting - 4AN Male
116.6mm (4.56)
50.8mm (2.00)
92mm (3.62)
147.3mm (5.79)
Compressor Map
(1.57)
3.8
3.4
3.0
2.6
2.2
1.8
1.4
1.0
73mm (2.87)
139.6
153.9 rpm
0.75
Super Core Configuration
117.4
0.65
0.74
Turbine Housing Options
89.8
Turbine Housing Part Number A/R
11581009006 0.64 11581009007 0.92
Comp. Wheel Turbine Wheel Inducer Dia. Outer Dia.
54 58
0.6
0.07.72
47.6
0.6
0 5 10 16 21 26 31 37 42 48 53 58 64
Corrected Mass Flow (lbs/min)
Turbo Super Core Frame Size Part Number
Turbo Part Number
Comp. Wheel Outer Dia. (mm)
67
179388
B1 179375
.64
T25
0.68
Inlet Flange Shape
T25 T4
Turbo A/R
Housing Config.
Single Scroll WG Twin Scroll WG
Inlet Flange Config.
Oil Drain 3/8 NPT
Oil Drain capscrew holes M8X1.25 (38mm bolt spacing)
The following parts are not included as part of the super-core assembly: turbine housing, assembly clamp plate hardware, wastegate parts.
www.borgwarnerboosted.com
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did you verify that it will fit?

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if I was going to do the ultimate Greddy kit upgrade this would be my version

this: http://www.compturbo.com/spotlights/ctb

with this: http://www.compturbo.com/spotlights/oil_less

and this: http://tialsport.com/prod%20ss%20turbo.html#sgt2528

with some grinding on the manifold, a custom adapter plate (see below) can be permanently bolted or welded on to it for mounting the the turbo assembly on, which the turbo assembly would then be much easier to get on and off to boot



and to top it all off, I would cut a hole in the side of that fancy turbine housing inlet and weld a wastegate flange to it similar to the ATP Turbo housing , except I would locate the position at 45 deg from the the housing exit flange rather than 90 deg like the ATP one.



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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
It's such a tight fit, is a tubular Greddy manifold replacement even possible?
Yes.

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who made that?
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Interesting, is the coolant being fed to the CHRA from the little nipple at the rear rotor housing on the passenger side? I cut into the heater circuit, But I never thought of just eliminating the coolant going to the TB and using that circuit.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I never thought of just eliminating the coolant going to the TB and using that circuit.
That is how I do it on all of my upgrades.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
if I was going to do the ultimate Greddy kit upgrade this would be my version

this: http://www.compturbo.com/spotlights/ctb

with this: http://www.compturbo.com/spotlights/oil_less

and this: http://tialsport.com/prod%20ss%20turbo.html#sgt2528

with some grinding on the manifold, a custom adapter plate (see below) can be permanently bolted or welded on to it for mounting the the turbo assembly on, which the turbo assembly would then be much easier to get on and off to boot



and to top it all off, I would cut a hole in the side of that fancy turbine housing inlet and weld a wastegate flange to it similar to the ATP Turbo housing , except I would locate the position at 45 deg from the the housing exit flange rather than 90 deg like the ATP one.



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I like the idea, I was actually thinking of a custom manifold with a very similar setup to what you're describing I was actually talking to Turblown about a low mount with a Comp Oil Less Turbo. I have the Esmeril Kit and I was planning my build around that, then decided to change directions and go with a low mount setup, which is when I started talking to Turblown. Then I recently found an incredible deal on a Greddy kit so I bought it lol. Now you guys have me thinking of doing something custom again, Damn this forum is bad for me and my wallet!

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Yes.

Nice think I've seen that pic posted before. Looks good

What material did you use? Mild Steel, 321SS, 304SS, a combination? Where did you get the Manifold flange? Racing Beat? I see that they offer one but it's Mild Steel, I'd prefer to use all Stainless.
Does anyone know of someone that sells a Stainless Steel Flange?

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That is how I do it on all of my upgrades.
you do upgrades?



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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
did you verify that it will fit?

wow,

that does tell all. great photo.


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