Power??
#1
Power??
It seems to me that it is very hard and costly to get any power out of the rx-8. Even turbocharged all the numbers i have seen here seem lows. Not hating on anyone but a turbo rsx-s would easily break 300whp tuned and still cost the same or even less. Why is it so hard to get these numbers from the rx-8?
#2
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...8&page=1&pp=15
There are two kits: the greddy and the PTP. The greddy kit is designed to be cheap and conservative. The PTP makes 320, and others have gone higher with custom setups IIRC.
There are two kits: the greddy and the PTP. The greddy kit is designed to be cheap and conservative. The PTP makes 320, and others have gone higher with custom setups IIRC.
#3
There are several 300+ whp turbo kits in development. I think the PTP has released a 390hp kit. Scott has a kit with 311 whp at only 5psi. Our aftermarket is in its infantcy give it time.
#6
Originally Posted by Shev22
It seems to me that it is very hard and costly to get any power out of the rx-8. Even turbocharged all the numbers i have seen here seem lows. Not hating on anyone but a turbo rsx-s would easily break 300whp tuned and still cost the same or even less. Why is it so hard to get these numbers from the rx-8?
Yeah but dont forget the RX-8 engine is only 1.3L and the RSX is 2.0. The RSX engine is 150% bigger to begin with. The RX-8 would definately produce more HP per liter of displacement than an RSX
#7
Originally Posted by BullitHockey
Yeah but dont forget the RX-8 engine is only 1.3L and the RSX is 2.0. The RSX engine is 150% bigger to begin with. The RX-8 would definately produce more HP per liter of displacement than an RSX
and who cares, the rsx is a nice car, but the power goes to the wrong wheels
#8
Originally Posted by Shev22
It seems to me that it is very hard and costly to get any power out of the rx-8. Even turbocharged all the numbers i have seen here seem lows. Not hating on anyone but a turbo rsx-s would easily break 300whp tuned and still cost the same or even less. Why is it so hard to get these numbers from the rx-8?
#12
Originally Posted by BullitHockey
Yeah but dont forget the RX-8 engine is only 1.3L and the RSX is 2.0. The RSX engine is 150% bigger to begin with. The RX-8 would definately produce more HP per liter of displacement than an RSX
#14
Nice I would love to see a front wheel handle so much power, there was a comparison somewhere on the Internet by several US tuners and let's just say the highest powered one didn't do very well.
#15
3 years after release and the aftermarket is still small. Sorry guys but if you don't have a good selection of parts by now, you never will. Sure, there will be more things available in the future, but it won't be much more than you have now.
Second, I'm not sure what the OP is here to do other than pump himself up about his RSX. The Greedy kit on the RX-8and the RSX usually yield about the same WHP, the two cars also dyno fairly close stock for stock. The RSX guys just have more choices for turbo kits, though big WHP is a joke since they're all FWD.
Lastly, why the hell would anyone buy an RSX now. The new Civic SI is better in every regard unless you're a badge *****.
Second, I'm not sure what the OP is here to do other than pump himself up about his RSX. The Greedy kit on the RX-8and the RSX usually yield about the same WHP, the two cars also dyno fairly close stock for stock. The RSX guys just have more choices for turbo kits, though big WHP is a joke since they're all FWD.
Lastly, why the hell would anyone buy an RSX now. The new Civic SI is better in every regard unless you're a badge *****.
#16
Originally Posted by Shev22
It seems to me that it is very hard and costly to get any power out of the rx-8. Even turbocharged all the numbers i have seen here seem lows. Not hating on anyone but a turbo rsx-s would easily break 300whp tuned and still cost the same or even less. Why is it so hard to get these numbers from the rx-8?
#18
#19
Originally Posted by Ike
3 years after release and the aftermarket is still small. Sorry guys but if you don't have a good selection of parts by now, you never will. Sure, there will be more things available in the future, but it won't be much more than you have now.
Second, I'm not sure what the OP is here to do other than pump himself up about his RSX. The Greedy kit on the RX-8and the RSX usually yield about the same WHP, the two cars also dyno fairly close stock for stock. The RSX guys just have more choices for turbo kits, though big WHP is a joke since they're all FWD.
Lastly, why the hell would anyone buy an RSX now. The new Civic SI is better in every regard unless you're a badge *****.
Second, I'm not sure what the OP is here to do other than pump himself up about his RSX. The Greedy kit on the RX-8and the RSX usually yield about the same WHP, the two cars also dyno fairly close stock for stock. The RSX guys just have more choices for turbo kits, though big WHP is a joke since they're all FWD.
Lastly, why the hell would anyone buy an RSX now. The new Civic SI is better in every regard unless you're a badge *****.
I just wonder why people on this site love to rag on you Ike...You're honestly among the top two or three most sensible, unbiased, reasonable members here...me too :D
#20
Originally Posted by dmp
I just wonder why people on this site love to rag on you Ike...You're honestly among the top two or three most sensible, unbiased, reasonable members here...me too :D
#21
Originally Posted by Ike
3 years after release and the aftermarket is still small. Sorry guys but if you don't have a good selection of parts by now, you never will. Sure, there will be more things available in the future, but it won't be much more than you have now.
Second, I'm not sure what the OP is here to do other than pump himself up about his RSX. The Greedy kit on the RX-8and the RSX usually yield about the same WHP, the two cars also dyno fairly close stock for stock. The RSX guys just have more choices for turbo kits, though big WHP is a joke since they're all FWD.
Lastly, why the hell would anyone buy an RSX now. The new Civic SI is better in every regard unless you're a badge *****.
Second, I'm not sure what the OP is here to do other than pump himself up about his RSX. The Greedy kit on the RX-8and the RSX usually yield about the same WHP, the two cars also dyno fairly close stock for stock. The RSX guys just have more choices for turbo kits, though big WHP is a joke since they're all FWD.
Lastly, why the hell would anyone buy an RSX now. The new Civic SI is better in every regard unless you're a badge *****.
Hehe, there was a Honda dealer right next door to the Mazda dealer with a Civic Si on the lot when I got my 8 a few months ago.... It drove ok, but no comparison with the 8... who the hell wants a FWD "sports" car. Thats no fun!
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From: Misinformation Director - Evolv Chicago
Originally Posted by Ike
3 years after release and the aftermarket is still small. Sorry guys but if you don't have a good selection of parts by now, you never will. Sure, there will be more things available in the future, but it won't be much more than you have now.
#24
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From: Misinformation Director - Evolv Chicago
Originally Posted by fenderlover
i'm sorry but for theptp price it'd just be cheaper to get a 20b engine with 600+Hp w/ turbo and the bang for buck would mkake it worth it
The Puerto Ricans make it look easy because they have the know how and do it themselves. Pay someone to do all that above, and I'm sure I'm leaving lots off the list, and your cost will be a heck of a lot more than the PTP kit.
Last edited by Red Devil; 07-24-2006 at 06:16 PM.
#25
Originally Posted by Red Devil
Sure, if you have the time and know how to do all the fabrication work yourself, and even then I think you won't come close price wise. And you still need new halfshafts, transmission upgrades, clutch, cooling, rear end, motor mounts, ECU, fuel architecture, ignition, upgraded suspension, wider wheels/tires...etc...if putting in a 600hp 20B was that easy lots of us already would have done so.
The Puerto Ricans make it look easy because they have the know how and do it themselves. Pay someone to do all that above, and I'm sure I'm leaving lots off the list, and your cost will be a heck of a lot more than the PTP kit.
The Puerto Ricans make it look easy because they have the know how and do it themselves. Pay someone to do all that above, and I'm sure I'm leaving lots off the list, and your cost will be a heck of a lot more than the PTP kit.
Wait, what's the gas mileage with a 20B again?