i love your 8 bastage... one of my fav's on this forum

 

i know, but as I understand it, i thought anything much more than 65hp shots at the throttle body risks fuel coating the UIM and backfires (is it Al who has gone through 2 of em?) Of course I am regularly wrong and if anyone can figure out a nitrous system its Charles. I was just wondering if he is plumbing the spray in at a different spot (direct port cough)

just curious

 

you've got me wondering now too. what is your opinion? secreted away in a pm i hope?

 

Ray is spot on.

I've been F.I. going on three years now and have never blown a single engine. Nor that of any of my customers for that matter.

Any engine, not just the Renesis, will blow up if it is asked to achieve a certain goal without the correct tools and support structures. It'll be like paying to get into a club and expecting to get laid - it just does not happen unless you look the part, take the time to chat her/him (whatever rocks ur boat) up a little and buy a couple of drinks at least.

While this isnt directed at anyone in particular...but those who go into F.I. thinking that all you need is a second hand turbo kit and a mechanic to make it work will be in for a huge surprise and an even larger bill later on.

Just my 2c.

 

I know if you get a second hand cheap little turbo set up from ebay or wherever it probably wont end well but if I get a system, after talking to a few people a supercharger system, I will go big spend the money and get it done at a shop that I know has installed the same system on the same car before just to make sure I dont explode

 

Amen Charles. Or as we used to more simply say in the Corps, "the 10%'ers will always be with us."

[90% of the problems from 10% of the peeps]

 

I've got to check this forum more than once or twice a day just to keep up with this thread lol

 

Thx, Huey. And we all wondered about the value of Philosophy, Psychology, and Literature back when we were in school, didn't we?

 

Lol, they are good vendors though

 

That raises a question, Shazy;

How does the RX-8 market, specifically those on this forum, define "good vendor"?

 

when it comes to putting fi on a car--it is about what you want--it is not about the money.
I know people that can patiently source a used set up, get a conservative tune, get the heat under control and be able to keep the engine lubricated properly for a lot less than 7K. Now if you want to buy new off the showroom floor kit --have someone install/tune and set it up for you AND do the mantainence--yea then it will be 7K+
FI for our engine has been --in a way--made much more solid of a mod than 2 yrs ago.
olddragger

 

Rock solid insight from a rock solid ol' school member. Required reading for anyone considering FI.

 

Coming from someone who thought, read, researched, questioned, and prepared for 2 years to go FI. I finally bought all the main components, and was simply picking up the last few pieces before instal time. Now i am selling it off. There are definately other MAJOR factors, but a BIG one is simply this: I do not advise FI'ing a car that you depend on for a DD and cannot afford to loose a motor and have downtime.

That said, although the past reaks of poor FI stories, you must consider what thepast offered, the majority comes from Greddy kits which totally failed and crappy engine management. With the much more advanced and quality kit designs and engine management availible today, the possibility of going FI with little to no troubles is ever increasing. And there is also plenty of evidence to show what others have said, that the Renesis is actually a pretty stout motor in many aspects, especially compared to previous rotaries.

 

What octane do you run in Singapore? Also, what do you make of Petit's theory of FI Renesis failures? http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...Pages1and2.jpg

 

I've spoken with some people "in the know" about this subject. and the conclusion i;ve drawn is that heat at the exhaust port os the killer. localized heat causes dissimilar expansion of the metals and this takes serious tolls on side seals. heat at the spark plug holes is also somewhat of an issue. a lot of factors com into play, for a TC - placement, size of the turbine/compessor, boostlevels and efficeincy - aka exhaust flow, tunign as it affects EGT etc... for a SC simply flow and tuning as it relates to EGT. maniiold mounted TC's are inherentyl going to be more problematic in dealing with the heat issues is you reach the flow/egt/pressure ratios where things start going wrong. but that doesnt mean they are bad.

there are ways to deal woith the localized heat/cooling inadequacies, but to do it properly involvs some very intrusive work that most people will never see unless is a purpose built car, or already stripped down for rebuild.

EDIT: sorry for the poor typing skills, the xanax is kicking in hard, i need to sleep now

 

You should ride in it!

Maybe he'll let me break in his new clutch........hint....hint!

 

so far away.... lol, maybe i'll hit him up if im ever in the area

 

HAHA!


Hey Risky, thanks for the compliment. I'm open to taking people for a ride, as long as they promise not to fall in love with the supercharger. It already happened to one person, fortunately they were able to buy one for themselves a few days later