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Old 02-09-2006, 08:19 AM
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The fastest 2 rotor in the world is "Sporty Racing" from PR the record was 7.34 sec 1/4 mile.
Someone tell me that he runs and 7.20 but the last one that I remember as a offical record is the 7.34 sec. I don't know if someone brake his record recently...........

On 3 rotors the "Major league" (with a RX8 body) runs a 6.81 sec 1/4 mile.
Ibarra maked 6.80 sec. This major league is goin to catch him....................
all this records are on NHRA certified tracks.............................

Here is also a lot of other Rotary world records holders in other categoires like 3/4 chassis, full body, etc.

Manuel
Old 02-09-2006, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KJ238
Actually the fastest rotaries are in Australia (IMO)
HEHEHE , i think that this guy only read ausie racing news for last 10 years he's out of the rotary racing reality.

Where and When they run below 6.81 1/4 mile?????????????????????

Mine runs in 10.2 @140 MPH full body in 93 octanes and 14 psi boost with a/c ,ps, cd changer,all seats, 6 speed tranny and daily drive for work. and has the pontential to runs on 9 secs with 18 psi boost.

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I agree with you there are a lot of very fast Rotaries over in Puerto Rico. Puerto Ricans love the Rotory motor. I honestly feel though Amamiya builds the best rotory engines money can buy, he's been working with them I believe for at least the past 20 years if not much longer then that. It's just my opinion.

Oh as far as the picture goes, those aren't finished yet. Still have to be coated and wrapped. I've heared mixed reviews about PFSupercars when Peter ran the shop, but that's before I met them. Yeah so it's been 6 months since my car has been up there. It doesn't really matter though because I have my GSX and my RX-7 to drive around in until it's finished. Besides that I want my car to be done correctly, and I want it to hit my goal. We'll see what happens down the road.

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Originally Posted by Eightman1977
Oh as far as the picture goes, those aren't finished yet. Still have to be coated and wrapped. I've heared mixed reviews about PFSupercars when Peter ran the shop, but that's before I met them. Yeah so it's been 6 months since my car has been up there. It doesn't really matter though because I have my GSX and my RX-7 to drive around in until it's finished. Besides that I want my car to be done correctly, and I want it to hit my goal. We'll see what happens down the road.

C.J.
I think you missed my point. "Coating and wrapping" will not make up for thin materials and carless design.
That 3-1 collector is going to get seriously toasty and the thin-gauge steel will bubble. Ask me how I know. Wrapping it will only make it worse. Plus, having the legs at different lengths but meeting in one spot is not a particularly efficient way to merge - this will be important when you are reaching for such a lofty HP goal and every bit counts.

Furthermore, just because it is taking a long time, doesn't mean it is being done "right". It just means you are not a priority.
A shop like that who really wants to get a project like that out the door (for exposure or floor space, whichever is the actual priority), will do so in about two or three weeks.
The only reason it is taking so long is they either don't know what to do or they don't really care that much.
Real R&D would mean they would be on their 3rd or 4th build by know - taking a long time for the first build is not R&D.
You should have already had it back to them for your third round of tuning and fabrication by now. (Or they should have been running it around if they didn't want to deliver prior to meeting your goals.)
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PTP's manifold looks a lot better than what they have done for you.
For the amount of money you are sinking into this you should expect a lot more from them and alot higher quality.
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fastest rotaries

Originally Posted by KJ238
Actually the fastest rotaries are in Australia (IMO)
You're wrong... Australia has good cars, but the fastest are from Puerto Rico and one from U.S.A.

World fastest 2 rotor 13B turbo, Sporty 7.34 @ 180mph P.R.
world fastest 2 rotor 13B n/a, Kamikaze 8.05 @ 160mph P.R.
World fastest 3 rotor 20B turbo, Flaco's RX8 6.76 @ 204mph U.S.
World fastest 3 rotor 20B n/a, Chimikui 7.77 @ 171mph P.R.
World fastest modified 13B turbo, Anais 7.37 @ 181mph P.R.
World fastest 2 rotor 12A turbo, Dereck racing 8.18 @ 157mph P.R.

P.R. fastest 3 rotor 20B, Major League 6.81 @ 202mph & Siguel 6.89 @ 199mph

Maximum horse power (to the "wheel")
3 rotor 20B, Flaco's RX8 1,565 hp. (street port, turbo)
3 rotor 20B, Major League 1,360 hp. (pheripheral port, turbo)


For those who thinks that is "impossible" to get 1,000hp from a 2 rotor;
*2 rotor 13B-RE, Fabiola N.G. 1,016 hp (pheripheral port, turbo)
*2 rotor 13B-RE, Quiles 918 hp (street port, turbo)

*new projects, no nitrous.

Any questions let me know.

Amen.
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Originally Posted by Braco66
You're wrong... Australia has good cars, but the fastest are from Puerto Rico and one from U.S.A.

World fastest 2 rotor 13B turbo, Sporty 7.34 @ 180mph P.R.
world fastest 2 rotor 13B n/a, Kamikaze 8.05 @ 160mph P.R.
World fastest 3 rotor 20B turbo, Flaco's RX8 6.76 @ 204mph U.S.
World fastest 3 rotor 20B n/a, Chimikui 7.77 @ 171mph P.R.
World fastest modified 13B turbo, Anais 7.37 @ 181mph P.R.
World fastest 2 rotor 12A turbo, Dereck racing 8.18 @ 157mph P.R.

P.R. fastest 3 rotor 20B, Major League 6.81 @ 202mph & Siguel 6.89 @ 199mph

Maximum horse power (to the "wheel")
3 rotor 20B, Flaco's RX8 1,565 hp. (street port, turbo)
3 rotor 20B, Major League 1,360 hp. (pheripheral port, turbo)


For those who thinks that is "impossible" to get 1,000hp from a 2 rotor;
*2 rotor 13B-RE, Fabiola N.G. 1,016 hp (pheripheral port, turbo)
*2 rotor 13B-RE, Quiles 918 hp (street port, turbo)

*new projects, no nitrous.

Any questions let me know.

Amen.
are those all RX7s?
Old 02-10-2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadstar
are those all RX7s?
there are all mixed you have RX-3s, 7s from all years and a 8
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Sporty=94 FD rx7
Kamikaze=miata
Flaco=RX8
Chimikui=datsun fastback
Anais=toyota starlet
Dereck=datsun fastback
MajorLeague=RX8
Siguel=94 FD rx7
Quiles=94 FD rx7
Fabiola=94 FD rx7

All full-drag racing cars.
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We'll see what happens. Because I am not an expert when it comes to turbo's or rotory motors. Anyways any extra information that can be provided would be appreciated.

C.J.
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Originally Posted by Braco66
You're wrong... Australia has good cars, but the fastest are from Puerto Rico and one from U.S.A.

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You're wrong those arent even fast

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...itage04&bhcp=1
Fastest in 1986 was Jim Mederer on the long course at Bonneville with 2 run avg of 238.442 mph in this car which ran 1 bar of boost and made 530 hp at 8500rpm



here's a later run in a 3rd gen that ended badly
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/rx7.html

following up on that Jim mederer went back in 1995 with this car


it made 760hp at 8k rpm witha 13g turbo'd engine runnign 1 bar and set the new (and current) long course record at 242.005


http://www.racingbeat.com/Gallery/95Bonneville.htm
http://www.racingbeat.com/FRphotos.htm
http://www.racingbeat.com/FRphotos.htm
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Originally Posted by zoom44
You're wrong those arent even fast

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...itage04&bhcp=1
Fastest in 1986 was Jim Mederer on the long course at Bonneville with 2 run avg of 238.442 mph in this car which ran 1 bar of boost and made 530 hp at 8500rpm



here's a later run in a 3rd gen that ended badly
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/rx7.html

following up on that Jim mederer went back in 1995 with this car


it made 760hp at 8k rpm witha 13g turbo'd engine runnign 1 bar and set the new (and current) long course record at 242.005


http://www.racingbeat.com/Gallery/95Bonneville.htm
http://www.racingbeat.com/FRphotos.htm
http://www.racingbeat.com/FRphotos.htm
Sporty Racing from puerto rico makes 1080 hp from 13b and hold word records of 7.32 1/4 mile there is no racing beat junkies just puertorican made. i never hear that's racing beat their have a cars runs in the 7's with a 13b motor.
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cj's "major project" thread just got turned into a "PR rotaries versus the world" thread... lol. yeah, yeah, yeah, goin' straight really fast is fun, but try slidin' 'round corners doin' 80 mph. now that's a rush! hang onto yer butts! lol

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Originally Posted by Eightman1977
We'll see what happens. Because I am not an expert when it comes to turbo's or rotory motors. Anyways any extra information that can be provided would be appreciated.

C.J.
Hi Eighman ones of the bigger problem with renesis is it side housing and the port desing there are very weak and has no enough room for port as soon you're boosting the engine above 18 psi it come to start breaking side housing due to a very high exhaust temperature above 1600 f and the apex seals can,t handle this high temp too. The renesis engine is a great motor with a great HP potantial maybe in the future someone may start to manufacture some high perfomance side housing with a big ports and with thinner walls in this case you will able to produce more HP inclusive more than the periferals exhaust ports.
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Originally Posted by Eightman1977
We'll see what happens. Because I am not an expert when it comes to turbo's or rotory motors. Anyways any extra information that can be provided would be appreciated.

C.J.
Hi Eighman ones of the bigger problem with renesis is it side housing and the port desing there are very weak and has no enough room for port as soon you're boosting the engine above 18 psi it become to start breaking side housing due to a very high exhaust temperature above 1600 f and the apex seals can,t handle this high temp too. The renesis engine is a great motor with a great HP potantial maybe in the future someone may start to manufacture some high perfomance side housing with a big ports and with thinner walls in this case you will able to produce more HP inclusive more than the periferals exhaust ports.
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Originally Posted by rgonza
Sporty Racing from puerto rico makes 1080 hp from 13b and hold word records of 7.32 1/4 mile there is no racing beat junkies just puertorican made. i never hear that's racing beat their have a cars runs in the 7's with a 13b motor.
there is a difference between quick and fast. those cars you posted are quick. the record holders i posted are FAST
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^^ you mean acceleration over a set distance (1/4 mi) versus flat out top speed.
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I forget who it was and I don't think it was ever official. But there was a White FC out at the Bonniville salt flats. I believe he reach 210 mph before the car decided to flip over. Thanks for the info Rgonza. I'll see what we can do to address this issue. Besides that I need to sit down and have a talk with Ray anyways. This project needs to get a MOVE ON! WOOHOO!

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Originally Posted by zoom44
You're wrong those arent even fast

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...itage04&bhcp=1
Fastest in 1986 was Jim Mederer on the long course at Bonneville with 2 run avg of 238.442 mph in this car which ran 1 bar of boost and made 530 hp at 8500rpm



here's a later run in a 3rd gen that ended badly
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/rx7.html

following up on that Jim mederer went back in 1995 with this car


it made 760hp at 8k rpm witha 13g turbo'd engine runnign 1 bar and set the new (and current) long course record at 242.005


http://www.racingbeat.com/Gallery/95Bonneville.htm
http://www.racingbeat.com/FRphotos.htm
http://www.racingbeat.com/FRphotos.htm

Hello, Im talking about 1/4 mile records, NOT flat out top speed records.

Ok, anyway we got the QUICKEST rotary powered cars
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Originally Posted by Ryan13b
That was a stock bodied FD with a Racing Beat installed 20b.

It hit 231 miles an hour and took flight.
and i posted a link to the vid in my post just a page ago
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Originally Posted by Braco66

Ok, anyway we got the QUICKEST rotary powered cars
yeah ya do
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I sense the thread has been hijacked a bit.
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Originally Posted by Ryan13b
That was a stock bodied FD with a Racing Beat installed 20b.

It hit 231 miles an hour and took flight.
No that was an 86 FC! Like I said a white FC. Didn't know about the FD though. But going from a high horsepower RX-8 to quickest and fastest rotories, how the hell did that happen? lol. Anyways I'll try to get it back on the right track. Oh yeah, stopped up Rays shop today and the motor it coming out . Still have a ways to go, but it's making progress.

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The motor is out and apart right now. Looking at a couple of different possibilities of how to work with this motor. This may be the last time I post for at least a couple of weeks. I found out today that my grandmother may have breast cancer, and one of my aunts had to go on life support today because of some health issues. So it's not been a great week for me. I'll try to get back to guys when I have the chance.

C.J.
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Wow, sorry to hear that Eightman...hope everything turns out well...


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