SFR turbo system-367WHP on Dynojet
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don't be naive, I can post a dyno sheet or timing slip showing anything I want it to, you call that proof? If a person is going to lie then everything is suspect. In this case I think SFR has made it clear that this is still a testing situation from an independent source and they're being cautiously guarded about making any wild claims. There's no need to start the negative BS machine folks.
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me personally i dont like sfr i dont feel there kit is a full kit they never posted proof of there gains from there kits, instead i saw a video of a person speeding down a busy road and a short video of a rx8 on a dyno ud think they would show a slip or something to show 287hp but no u just see the car on the dyno.
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I have met Tim @ SFR, looking for couplers for my Wife's turbo miata and found Tim to be very cool to deal with, had some very nice projects in his shop, as well as his turbo 350z. Made me seriously consider boosting my 8, I think I will still wait a year or two will my warranty has expired. I would do buisness with him.
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367whp
It's me with the 367whp rx8. My car is up at Archer Racing now due to my stock ecu overpowering or whatever the emanage, and it did one pull at 367 then another pull at 328whp and the shop i had it at had problems tuning the emanage and now the car doesn't pull boost due to wiring issues. At Dyno Tune USA which did the install and tuning, he said it was easily achievable to get over 400whp but he was having trouble with the emanage working with the stock ecu.
It's getting new engine management up at Archer Racing in Duluth (turbo xs utec, and hks ignition upgrades)when i get it back, i'll personally scan the dyno sheet onto this forum. engine upgrades include...(sfr turbo kit(t4 turbo, tim talked about), nitrous express intercooler kit, 9si on 93 octane gas, 3 inch test pipe-no resonators or cats with 3 inch mandrel bent single exit JIC exhaust out left rear side(like the JIC rx8), sr motorsport pulley's and racing beat flywheel, 550cc injectors, with greddy profec b boost controller, and greddy turbo timer, boost gauge and egt gauge by Greddy.
I'll have the car back sometime the last week of february, so don't anticipate dyno sheets till then, and if i can, i'll get some a/f ratios and stuff from the Utec system. I live in Sioux Falls, SD.
It's getting new engine management up at Archer Racing in Duluth (turbo xs utec, and hks ignition upgrades)when i get it back, i'll personally scan the dyno sheet onto this forum. engine upgrades include...(sfr turbo kit(t4 turbo, tim talked about), nitrous express intercooler kit, 9si on 93 octane gas, 3 inch test pipe-no resonators or cats with 3 inch mandrel bent single exit JIC exhaust out left rear side(like the JIC rx8), sr motorsport pulley's and racing beat flywheel, 550cc injectors, with greddy profec b boost controller, and greddy turbo timer, boost gauge and egt gauge by Greddy.
I'll have the car back sometime the last week of february, so don't anticipate dyno sheets till then, and if i can, i'll get some a/f ratios and stuff from the Utec system. I live in Sioux Falls, SD.
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That is Outstanding. This shop is so close to me my credit cards are heating up already! Cannot wait to see your results. Best of luck to you, I just may follow in your footsteps here...
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RX8 and a Truk....
So you 'used to have' a 367whp RX8, right?
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Did you ask him "If it was easy to get over 400whp, why are you having trouble?"
Nothing is easy. More-than-doubling the stock output isn't easy on ANY production car I am familiar with.
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he said it was easily achievable to get over 400whp but he was having trouble with the emanage working with the stock ecu.
Nothing is easy. More-than-doubling the stock output isn't easy on ANY production car I am familiar with.
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First I hear about this, but why don't you get the Intercepter-X and say goodbye to all your ECU problems? I know it aint cheap...but for Turbo's that's the only way to go right now, most of us think that anyway.
A 367whp RX8 would be impressive to say the least.
A 367whp RX8 would be impressive to say the least.
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
First I hear about this, but why don't you get the Intercepter-X and say goodbye to all your ECU problems? I know it aint cheap...but for Turbo's that's the only way to go right now, most of us think that anyway.
A 367whp RX8 would be impressive to say the least.
A 367whp RX8 would be impressive to say the least.
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emanage problem
The shop with the laptop plugged in had trouble getting the emanage to show rpm signals, and when he was tuning it, the stock ecu kept pulling timing, that's why he was only able to do two pulls with two different results. Then as i drove it home i got onto the Interstate and got on it in 2nd gear and fish tailed the whole way onto the interstate and part of third gear before i let off and the car started acting funning with the cruise control and it started to miss fire, only with the cruise control and i pulled over and had the trouble of restarting it. it seemed the emanage cut out and the stock ecu was trying to run with the 550cc injectors and it kept running way to rich and would take forever to start whenever i tried, so i just ended up trailering it back to my house until i brought it to Archer Racing.
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So you 'used to have' a 367whp RX8, right?
![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Did you ask him "If it was easy to get over 400whp, why are you having trouble?"
Nothing is easy. More-than-doubling the stock output isn't easy on ANY production car I am familiar with.
![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Did you ask him "If it was easy to get over 400whp, why are you having trouble?"
Nothing is easy. More-than-doubling the stock output isn't easy on ANY production car I am familiar with.
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MD, I understand that by having complete control over those larger injectors you control a much greater % of fuel than with the way Greddy had it set up. But when the ecu sees AFR that are richer than it likes, can't it still pull fuel from the other 4 injectors? Granted it won't be able to pull nearly as much, but if you are running an AFR already around 12 and pushing that kinda boost, I would think even a few % could cause problems.
One thing I'd like to know is instead of using the cold temp dongle to fool the ecu, which in my opinion is the single worst feature of the emanage setup, why not use a dongle similar to the air pump dongle. A dongle that alters the WB 02 signal to the ecu under boost so it has no idea whats going on.
One thing I'd like to know is instead of using the cold temp dongle to fool the ecu, which in my opinion is the single worst feature of the emanage setup, why not use a dongle similar to the air pump dongle. A dongle that alters the WB 02 signal to the ecu under boost so it has no idea whats going on.
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I estimate that the PCM can only alter the total fuel delivered under boost by about +/- 4% with the improved fuel strategy. From my tuning, I'd say that would be enough to raise or lower the AFR by about 0.3 or so. So, I really don't care too much if the PCM trims what fuel it can. But, my LTFT has remained unchanged. I never have the 'too rich' CEL that the interceptor guys have and I suspect they are tuning to the same AFR. I don't know why, but the PCM doesn't get pissed at this setup.
Last edited by MadDog; 02-08-2006 at 01:37 PM.
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intakedrotary: You have an emanage, but did you make the improvements that MadDog and MazdaManiac discovered?
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/definitive-greddy-turbo-fixes-here-they-81825/
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/definitive-greddy-turbo-fixes-here-they-81825/
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Originally Posted by MadDog
A lot of people without a turbo are sure quick to say one solution is "the only way to go". Kinda irks me. Are you keeping up with the progress being made on this stuff?
Keep up the good work.
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^ Haha. Glad someone noticed that. Watch for 10psi, coming to a sig near you.
He couldn't have had this setup if the PCM was still controlling his 550cc injectors.
He couldn't have had this setup if the PCM was still controlling his 550cc injectors.
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A lot of people without a turbo are sure quick to say one solution is "the only way to go".
Look, I don't know if your having a bad day or what but I won't apologize for my opinion that based on what I have read here most people agree the Inter-X is the best solution for Turbo's.
I won't lie to you, I don't come to this section often (because I'm not really ready to mod my 8 anyway) but last I heard the eManage was considered crap. If you all have figured out a way to use it (fixed it's issues) then more power to you all, heck it's cheaper and if 10psi is working that is impressive.
More power to the eManage...you relax and I'll go read up, agreed?