Mr.Wiggles,


The thing you are not taking into consideration is that I didnt even read or understand the article. The owner relayed the info to me via email in which he said he was running .7 bar and made the 380ps.

 

The car currently has around 20K miles withthe turbo kit.The only thing he had some trouble with was the steering rack and it was because we didnt connect up the power supply when we relocated the battery We figured out what was going on and fixed it.

 

and that's just one example ...

 

this kit looks nice! I don't know why people are bashing an RX8 turbo? People love a certain S/C and are quick to tout how awesome Mazsport is, but then bash these people? What gives? It's even cheaper!
I, for one, am very interested. And the fact that their test vehcile has over 20,000 miles on the turbo kit speaks volumes...

Dave

 

look lets just settle it like this, sfr will give me a free kit and kit everythings kosher ill advertise it more. how about that huh. just gotta make sure it works on an A/T. =p

 

Looks like a nice kit but I don't understand why turbo kits without EMS systems go for 5k + for the RX8 and other cars.

 

I agree. We have an unusual number of whiners on this board.

 

i think it's great that companies like SFR are pushing the boundaries with turbo technology for the rx-8. but, honestly don't know much about turbo'ing an rx-8 or how it would affect things long-term. the rotary engine is already a unique object of itself. and, given the large number of ppl here who've blown up their engines with turbos, i don't think i would be willing to risk my car unless there was some sort of proof -or- warranty -or- guarantee ensuring that a turbo-converted engine (with regular maintenance of course) could run without issues well into 100k, 150K+ mile ranges. (well-made cars last at least 10+ years, right?) otherwise, it's fairly easy to claim that a turbo modded engine runs great for 2 years and fool people who aren't mechanically-inclined or knowledgeable in this area (like me). i can imagine that extra stress on components could be slowly build up over time and wear down parts gradually and eventually make the engine ripe for a blow up in year 3 or year 4 or year 5 etc. how would and does one know? so, until any turbo conversion has some sort of guarantee or warranty, i dunno if i would ever dare risk it. but, that's just me. a car is an expensive investment to experiment with- esp with my hard-earned money. but, if a warranty and proof can be made, i might be more open-minded to it, generally-speaking.

 

No performance company in their right mind would provide a warranty to a kit they build then ship out and let someone else install and tune. There is alot to be said for a company to make something like this, but you still need to find someone educated with the car to install it. They cant warrant your choice of people who work on it. If they want to warrant strictly the kit parts I kind of understand.

I think it is great they have this kit made, and I think it is a shame people bash everytime they mention it. I think people here have strange bonds to companies because they post alot in other parts of the forums. To me currently there are 2 kits even worth considering, this and mazsport.

 

I don't know Tim personally but he is pretty active with the Porsche 944 Turbo (aka 951) crowd. One thing to note about SFR is that they really do use some of the best materials available for their kits. Look at the stainless they spec for the turbo manifold for example.

People always talk about the limited aftermarket support that our cars have. There are only a handful of companies dedicated to making products for us and we should be more open to what they all have to offer.

 

We do offer a full one year warranty on all parts of the turbo system.We dont offer a warranty on your motor though.

 

that prolly why we have no "aftermarket" becuase of bitches, same thing happend with Turboxs, and guesw what, they left too, im not bashing mazport, or petit or Af, i think they are great comapinies, but we have SO many Fanboys on here.. Racing beat is another one.. it always seems if something is recommended as a differnent alternative other then those companys, a **** fest gets thrown around. my god people if someones wants thi kit. rather then the mazport.. then why are trashing them? is it YOUR money they are spending? is it YOUR car they are going to be slappin the turbo on? no. mazport is good for 400 whp, cool.. thats great, but the one kit costs 10k... without tax. sure its a "complete kit" but 10k without tax for 400whp and hasnt been out over a year.. or.. 5500 without tax for 330~whp and has been proven to NOT blow up the motor for 2 years...
so you get the power gain.. cost lets say almost half as much as the mazport, Way more reliable then greddy, and gets 70-60 ish WHP less..

also everyone says mazport is good for 400whp.. i have yet to see a dyno showing that its capable of it. and im also curious on how aggressive the tune is

 

Ah you caught that. Most people dont even know what 321SS is.We will build these manifolds in inconel too.

 

We can make more power then we did. No problem. Run a larger turbo and intercooler which we have available and turn the boost up. However, we dont want people to have a grenade on their hands

 

You guys should make an aluminum upper intake manifold to go with that turbo set-up. I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in that idea, myself for one. Besides that, I was also wondering, do you guys have any other mods on the car besides the turbo set-up. For example; exhaust, exhaust manifold, radiator, etc.?!

 

Tim, when I had my 951 I lusted for that 321SS turbo manifold. I'd probably have gotten it if I didn't sell that car.

 

Can you tell us more about how well this unit works with the turbo . I know it is pretty good N/A but I wonder how well it deals with boost in the lower rpm ranges when you would normally be in closed loop.

 

That's why I asked what I did.

it's great that they had the turbo on for 2 years, but I could throw a turbo on and let my car sit in the garage for 2 years

SFR, thanks for your response!

 

^ sfr said they drove like 20k miles?

still low for a daily driver.

 

^ true, it is still low, but imo if you are looking to go to this much power, you either should have this as a daily driver, or if you do, expect that things will start to fail. mazda didn't design this car to handle a turbo for 100,000 miles. that's not saying it can't, but it is another reason why places like sfr, mazsport, etc. can't warranty the whole engine when their kit is installed.

My 8 is my daily driver, and while I want more power, I also need the car to last a long time. if they had this car up to 50-60k with the kit on it I would be very eager to jump. but if i do go fi I will probably go with pettit's sc. less power = less stress.

 

320 whp is still nothing to scoff at for the levels they are running it....I say great job and the kit itself looks very sexy installed!

Definately one of the top two options currently out for the 8.....who care's about that one article....don't have to thread crap on every page wiggles....damn man just wanted to say his car is two years running and hasn't blown...jeez...

Hell my 05 has 20 some odd thousand miles....so 20K miles wouldn't be low for me

 

I second the vote for an aluminum upper intake manifold. Would look extra trick, and be more function when you're running boost. Could be included in the kit or bought seperate??

Dave

 

yes, exactly what i thought. 320whp is a lot for the RX-8, mazsport hasnt achieved 400whp. And i dont think the "soon-to-be-released" superchargers will outpower this figure by too much, if at all.

Exactly, it was just a HK tuner mag article! why is everyone throwing the 380ps figure at SFR for? its just a figure reported, and i think there are posts by the car owner that clarified that hp number.

About the price, 5K seems to be reasonable when compared to other kits. Arent the SCs gonna be in the 4k range as well?
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Oh, so you are familiar with the owner. Do you think he made "380 WHP" at 0.7 bar?

You don't have to answer that. Anyway, lets get back to the article.



The above states:

The article doesn't give any data to prove the claim. Its the customer's comments.

Sorry sir, happy customer(s) aside, your kit doesn't make 380 WHP at 0.3 bar and I seriously doubt it makes 380 WHP at 0.7 bar either.

So you can't read Chinese? Neither can I. A co-worker translated for me and how he translated it was exactly how I made it out the first time: 380ps at 0.3BAR (+4.4PSI). I've rolled my eyes at some of your comments in the past. This article, which YOU presented, was simply the most obvious example of your exaggerations or at the least lofty expectations.

This forum will trash posters for stupid reasons, but it will also be hard on those who are simply hyping for their own interests.

-Mr. Wigggles

 

at any point in this thread is he claiming to be producing that much, no. it was in the past, let it die. if you don't like the company don't buy their product. you have made your point to anyone that reads this thread that some people don't trust the company. we understand that, now move on.

renesis 8, i know the pettit sc is $5k with a map for your ems if you already have one, otherwise you can pay more to get an int-x from them.