Neither the Pettit (stage2) or AFSC will surpass 320whp. I doubt even 300whp for the AFSC.

 

Aero8,

SFR presented new information to me in his last post to try to explain away the discrepancy. "Oh wait, that HK guy actually used 0.7 bar. That's how he got the power."

He gives new information. I will give a new response. He's not my girlfriend. I don't have to just give in and let it die.

I don't buy his comment, but it still doesn't even clear up SFR's story that he has/had/will ever have a "380 WHP" kit.

-Mr. Wigggles

 

To play devil's advocate, how about this:
.7 bar = ~10.3 psi

In a perfect world, 220bhp * 1.7 = 374bhp. In this thread, the statement was 380bhp, not whp. That's pretty close to being on track, isn't it?

On SFR's website, their dyno claims ~320whp @ 9psi. There's no mention of acheiving 380bhp or whp, especially @ .4 or ~5.8psi.

All I'm saying is, those numbers are ballpark enough to not be laughable.

 

amen!

the thing i gotta say about SFR is that they have always handled the flaming and critisizim in a profesinal manner. i would have blown up already. i remember it was between ptp and sfr in the beggining but everyone jumped on the ptp band wagon because sfr has problems with the first car. as for the flaming, we have some angry people here on these boards.

as for the kit, its made out of some of the best materials. the rest is in the ECU although they had problems with in the beggining. $5500 + ECU is ok for 325hp. it could be better though im sure they didnt tune it for the max. the ptp is using a slightly larger turbine and gets 360+hp if i remember correctly for about the same price.

as for mazsport, i seriously doubt that they will hit the 400hp barrier with that turbine on pump gas. especially in calli. maybe if you upgrade ignition as well but i still think the hotside is a bit small.

i dont understand why there are so many people are convinced that the AFSC will put out more hp then a basic greddy kit. at sevenstock, they said that it will be in the 240hp range. its 600 cfm... what do you expect?

the petite stage 2 is supposed to get you to 300 hp but ive yet to see that as well.

 

pettit is only saying +60-80 for stage 2. they are thinking they may be able to break 300 with stage 3 but not positive.

 

I already post a link in this thread but let me post it again:

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/380whp-sfr-turbo-rx-8-hong-kong-101979/

And the title of that thread is?

"380WHP SFR turbo RX-8 in Hong Kong"

and the Author of the thread is?

SpeedForceRacing

and what is the stated pressure from the article?

0.3 bar

Now are those claims "laughable"?

-Mr. Wigggles

 

no, but you are, and you are very annoying, if you dont like him then **** off.. your the only person who seems to care, okay we get it, your a badass, you're not going to buy this kit.. derp
Kthxbye!

 

I specifically addressed this thread, and their website in separate paragraphs in my post. I didn't change the topic in either paragraph, so wherein did your reading comprehension lead you to re-post the link above and assert the same argument again? I read your argument before when I addressed it with the basic math as it relates to this thread, and their website. Why would giving me the same argument again be effective at persuading anyone's opinion? And if you're going to quote me, maybe try quoting all of what is written instead of picking and choosing what you like and ignoring the rest.

As for .3 bar relating to 380hp of any sort on an OEM Renesis being laughable...yes, it is and I don't think that's possible. But I already addressed that with the math in my post, so your question didn't need to be asked.

 

"new information"??? I read the link you posted and SFR clearly states that the 380 number was done at 0.7 bar. I'm not asking you to "give in", you've already stated your opinion on the matter so give it a rest already.

 

I'm new to the forum and I already see why there is so little aftermarket support for the RX-8. It's too risky considering the way forum members respond to vendors when a product is introduced. I've seen Turbo Xs and SFR create some quality products for our cars, yet someone always finds a reason to complain about the dumbest things. Considering the bashing SFR gets from MrWiggles, I think they handle themselves in a very professional manner.

Moving on...SFR, I'm interested in purchasing one of your "Tuner" kits without EMS. I would however, like to upgrade to a Turbogenics GT-K 350 turbo and larger intercooler if necessary. Can you send me a reply or pm letting me know if you can make that happen and how the price of the kit would be affected?

 

A GT-K 350 is probably too small, though I haven't seen a compressor map...how much power are you looking for?

 

It didn't sound like you read it the first time. My comment was to Aero8 not you.

I agree that 320 WHP is reasonable with 9PSI. What isn't reasonable are his comments in the past. SFR knows very well that some guy got the SFR kit Hong Kong went to a magazine and bragged about how bad *** it was. "Yo, yo, this car has a 'famous American SFR' turbo in it that does 380ps with only 0.3 Bar. I don't have anything to prove it but hey it looks tight."

Those claims were BS then are the claims now still BS? I dunno.

-Mr. Wigggles

 

You are misinterpreting what was said and what I have said. From my understanding 380PS is flywheel horsepower.I never , ever, ever, never claimed it made 380WHP in any post or on any board or when I have talked to any customer.I said 380PS which is what was told to me and at .7 bar. So that is my story, it hasnt changed and I am sticking to it. You can try to rearrange it any way you want and present as though I am making stuff up and that is cool.

 

SFR,

"I never , ever, ever, never claimed it made 380WHP in any post or on any board"

So who typed the title of the thread? Did a moderator type the title for you?

-Mr. Wigggles

 

After we pointed out how BS the info was, he retracted to some degree.

I guess we were being mean for questioning him then?

-Mr. Wigggles

 

That was a mistake on my part. I should have stated 380PS and not WHP. If you look on all the posts aside from the title of the thread,I never did make those claims and I am still not because at this time,with the turbo he has, it is not possible.What more do you want?

 

I missed the post he had made before that bringing up the .7 or whatever.

sorry for that.

either way, is there really a need to keep this **** going? as I said, the thread was in the past, he has said what the current kit should produce. just leave it at that. did you have a personal experience with this vendor or is it just this thread that upset you so much? you seem to be the only one fighting against sfr right now...and it seems very pointless. what are you trying to gain? I'm not trying to be an ***, but the vendor is now trying to get some news out about their kit, with actual data, and you are crapping all over it.

 

The GT-K 550 or 650 would be the turbo to use since the hotside would be a direct bolt-on to our headers and downpipe.And it is a close equivlant of the 60-1 we run now.I will send you a pm.FYI, I have learned to be as docile as possible when dealing with peopl on the internet.8-9 years ago I used to blow up and look pretty foolish.I still get angry and want to beat the crap out of some people but I maintain a civilized demeanor in order to stay professional.

 

Thank-you. That's all it took.

You can correct it. Go to the first post and push the edit button. The title will editable (make sure the change sticks though - some forums won't let you change the title of the first post only a moderator can.)

If you just now noticed the" WHP", wow. What do you think all of the "lol" were about in the first ten posts?

It's not an official press-release from SFR, but you should probably treat information you share very carefully.

-Mr. Wigggles

 

GTAW,

I've got a 600HP or so turbo I'd love to sell you.

Just give me $6K and it'll be at your door in no time. I promise.

-Mr. Wigggles

 

needs repeating.

ditto

 

jesus! who the hell cares wiggles, dont buy the **** then! lol ...........im gonna buy two sfr kits! and have each one pushin 380hp

 

Thanks for all the support from everyone.We feel more welcome here now.I dont mind taking some licks but to get repeated ***-kickings sucks.LOL.

 

well SFR, i cant say your product is for me, but it does seem you have a very good one.

beyond that, this thread blows.