sixgen3sgte

Hi, i had the SFR kit on my car. i actually bought it from SSR and had a few problems from the start from that guy. the kit was manufactued by SFR though

as far as quater mile times there is no way to say that this is hp makes a car this fast, with the same hp one car might run 14s on crappy street tires, stock supension, and a bad driver; vs another car with the same hp on slicks, drag suspension, a good driver and any other mod thats adds to perfoamnce but not power

I unfortunately never had the chance to run mine at a track as it didn't last that long, lol.
not to say thats the fault of the SFR kit but more likely my tuner

but if i did then my time would have sucked as well, as first off i didn't get 320whp, and i have crappy suspension and tires right now lol


my car lasted a few months with the sfr kit before it blew and it only lasted a couple days at full potential after tuning before a decline

this is most likely the cause of a faulty intake manifold problem that has nothing to do with the turbo kit, and the fact that my tuner had never used an interceptor or even Micro tech




other than getting the wrong parts, includeing a fake hks BOV, there was not flange on any of the pipes so i had to send it back and get one put on, I got the wrong turbo which i didn't find out about untill much later like after it was on and the motor blew up(i paid for a BB and didn't get it), never got a fuel pump, took forever to get money back for the emanage(the guy at SSR told me every couple days "it is going through today"), it took many months to get all the parts, and variouse other small things

The problem i had with SFR though is that alot of stuff didn't fit and i never got alot of the hardware

i had to make countless trips to home depot for bolts and such for all kind of stuff.
like the bolts for the mass air were different than stock and it didn't come with them, didn't come with any bolts for the turbo, no new bolts for the mounting bracket, anf i'm sure there are more

the intercooler didn't fit, i had to drill new holes and get my own bolts, lower radiator hard pipe didn't fit, had to use a flex pipe that cost me like $40, some of the intercooler pipes were too short, some just didn't line up, had cut and chop and not even use on pipe, some of the couplers and clamps never showed up. didn't come with any new hoses or anything

so it is in no way a bolt on kit

and the thing is i didn't even post here to complain but it sure looks like that now lol

i didn't even mind some of this stuff as i'm pretty easy going guy, and i like to make things my own anyway, but it got rediculouse at a point

cornrowdpantha

Did you ever get an explanation for any of these discrepancies? Also, was this early on in distribution when they may have possibly not had all of the bugs worked out?

sixgen3sgte

this was one year ago so after they had the kit out for a year, imo they should have had all the bugs out by then

SSR has since closed and i have not been able to get in touch with them so i am basicly screwed i guess but its in the past now and not much i can do, i'm an inginuitive person so made it work but the only thing that really bothers me was about the turbo
i got the real hks in the end so i didn't get screwed on that

sixgen3sgte

alot of the little stuff i never even asked about but cause it wouldn't be worth it like the bolts and stuff, just easier to get my own.

its just that it says bolt on, but its not

Red Devil

Wow, I always was under the impression that you were really satisfied from your previous posts. They appear to have a good rep on the z forum.

sixgen3sgte

like i said i'm an easy going guy and not the type to complain, but i just thought others should know you might not get a "Bolt on kit" even though thats what is stated

sixgen3sgte

the other parts mistakes were not the fault of SFR just the fitment issues and hardware absence (as far as i know, the hardware may be SSR's faults too

SpeedForceRacing

I wish you would have called us directly. We will still support the product even though you bought the kit through another vendor. There was alot of miscommunication through Albert and us on certain things and some of them had nothing to do with your turbo system at all. I know Albert was trying to souce some of his own parts to drop the price of the kits on his end and we had similiar situations with Spec-v turbo systems to the point where we just stopped selling them to SSR altogether because there was no money in it.We have learned alot along the way and we supply parts checklists, instructions, etc........ so that people dont end up with a missing bolt or a missing coupler.That really sucks when that happens! As far as not being a bolt-on,we have not had any issues that we have heard about.There are some guys that purchased the kits for RHD vehicles and we told them before they bought the kit that they would have to modify the downpipe in order for it to work on their vehicles.We have installed a few systems here and everything goes pretty smoothly.

GRapify

i cant find any dyno proof???

maxxdamigz

iTrader: (1)

As stated in this thread, they have a posted dyno chart on their website.

nucleus

Well, I think this kit looks like the very best to me. I don't understand the attitude of people who go on about bogus HP numbers and the price.

When you have top quality materials put together with excellent workmanship the pirce is higher, but really I think it saves you money in the long run.

Sure you can cobble something up, but do you really save money when you count the value of your time? Hey if it is your hobby have at it, I am building a plane so I understand; but when you look at the development time that people with lots of experience have to put into turbo kits to iron out all the rough edges (think two years), then you start to get an inkling of how much of a challenge it is to do it yourself.

I have a friend who is on home made turbo manifold number three that he has built, the others worked but the new one is an improved design.

My experience with turbos is that you can spend lots of time and money tweaking just the tuning, boost control, etc. I say start with the best you can buy and you will save time and money by not having to bolt better stuff on later.

I think this SFR kit looks like the $hit to me.

Nucleus

sosonic

I think it would be better if this had a cover for the battery box. Most people are going to put items in their trunk, so its wise to make sure the battery and cables are covered.

BOOSTD 7

SpeedForce guys, as the owner of this site I just have to shake my head sometimes at how the people who in one breath wish for more aftermarket support ... and then in the next push the support we do have away.

I'd encourage you to start a new thread here about the kit, put all the good info in the first post - dynos, pictures of the kit and the install, details about components included and the EMS. If you do that, I'll try to help keep the people with nothing to contribute out of your thread.

SpeedForceRacing

Thanks for that. I will put some stuff together and make a new post this weekend.We really want to help the RX-8 community but sometimes it is a bit tough when you have the people who like to thrash on you, us, them, etc.........But we do not give up so easily! Our lunchtime discussion at the shop today was buying an 06' 8 and throw everything we can at it until something breaks or gives out

Im_DANomite

iTrader: (1)

wanna use mine for testing?

LabDad

Looking forward to seeing your new post. Make sure to include info/details on the Engine Management you're using. Take a look at the GReddy's E-manage vs Int-X thread to see the pros and cons of each and let us know how yours compares.