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Old 12-20-2004 | 06:33 PM
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I would like to agree with the above postings that mentioned how SC is good for certain applications, and Turbos are better for others. Straightine vs AutoCross Style Drivin vs Roadracings vs Daily Driving. What type of application are you looking for can deem which route is best for you.
Old 12-20-2004 | 10:19 PM
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Englisn is not my first language I am from China, and i do have a 8, it's in the shop getting the suspension done, i am pick it up in 12/23, i'll post my car on cardomain. Sorry if i made u guys feel mad. hate the game not the player i'll post picture soon as possible after i get it back this week Did i mention i am 16 ?so the 5000 dollar is my budget. Also i work in VONs, it's great place for first job, i save up a lot money , so u hater should stfu. I forget tell u guys, i got little accident last month, and i got few picture to show u guys :p damn, can someone tell me how to post picture on this forum, can't find the button for it. if you want i can send you the picture by email. Here is two picture of my crashed 8 in car domain.
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Old 12-21-2004 | 01:10 PM
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Now you really opened the door... Trying.... hard... not to say something...
Old 12-21-2004 | 04:41 PM
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I have 5000 dollar to spend on my next mod, but i don't know if supercharge better for the rx8 or the turbo is better? can anyone tell me what company make any of those or tell me which you think is good for rx8?
Forget making your car faster - right now, it's already faster than you are. By that, I mean that your driving skills are not capable of handling the speed the car already has (don't argue, you've already proved that).

What you need to do is make YOU faster, not your car. You need to learn how to drive - properly. With $5K, you could attend several performance driving schools, like Skip Barber, Bob Bondurant, Jim Russell, etc. offer. They put you in a real track-set up car, and teach you all about how to find the limits of the car and drive quickly and safely. Those courses will make you faster, they'll make you SAFER, and thus they will make EVERY CAR you ever drive or own from now on faster.

I'm serious - forget the Fast'n'Furious Crap you're pursuing with your current mod plans. Learn how to be a faster, better, safer, driver FIRST. You need to.

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Old 12-21-2004 | 05:02 PM
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This can't be a serious thread-- :o well if it is, driving school and performance driving school is your first step. Dare I ask how the accident happened?
Old 12-21-2004 | 10:44 PM
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If I were you after seeing those photos I would get a big rubber tyre and put it around my car. You obviously drive it like it is a dodge-em car. I agree with the comment that you should take the 5 grand and invest in driving lessons and do some track time, you will kill yourself if you are not careful.
Old 12-21-2004 | 11:21 PM
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That accident is not my fail because it's some drunk guy run red light, and i hit his back, and he was kept driving away, so he did hit and run. The police still try to find that vehincle, after they find him, he maybe going to pay for the repair I do want to go some drifting school, can someone tell me where they have it around san diego ? i would be happy to go
Old 12-22-2004 | 12:42 AM
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I do want to go some drifting school, can someone tell me where they have it around san diego ? i would be happy to go
Please read what I wrote again - drifting school is NOT a performance driving school. You need to learn how to DRIVE, before you bother learning how to jack around.

Again - drifting is NOT performance driving. It's stunt driving. Knowing how to drift will do nothing to improve your driving skills in everyday driving and traffic. No, I'm not talking about street racing either, because that's incredibly stupid. I'm talking about being able to handle your vehicle in emergency maneuvres, like accident avoidance. Nobody ever says "Hey, that guy just stopped suddenly, I'll throw the car into a drift to avoid him".

Check out Bondurant, Skip Barber, Jim Russell, etc. Get involved with autocross, not drifting. Those schools will make you a better driver. Drifting won't. Once you're a better driver (2 or 3 years, if you attend 1 or 2 schools per year and autocross regularly), then consider getting into drifting.

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Old 12-22-2004 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit
That accident is not my fail because it's some drunk guy run red light, and i hit his back, and he was kept driving away, so he did hit and run...
Sounds more like "he (got) hit and run." Hope you'll save this thread and look back on it in a few years. I think (hope) you'll understand at that point what an *** you appear to be. Console yourself with the thought that many of us were similarly afflicted at your age.
Old 12-22-2004 | 08:27 PM
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Sounds more like "he (got) hit and run." Hope you'll save this thread and look back on it in a few years. I think (hope) you'll understand at that point what an *** you appear to be. Console yourself with the thought that many of us were similarly afflicted at your age.
blah blah blah, thanx ***, i know u are just jeoulus because i am 16 and i got an 8 and u have to work your whole life to get one. TOo bad for u sucker, and don't put the hatred on me because u are a loser. I don't think drive school help anyone, it only teach u how to drive the speed limit and drive like a old person. I rather get in to a crash then go to a driving school, what a waste of time and money. I get into a crash , i don't pay for it, someone else will pay, so you think i care? once again, hate the game not the player.
Old 12-22-2004 | 08:33 PM
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I might have thought that, but now I hate the player.
Old 12-22-2004 | 08:41 PM
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Smile Just do us all a favor...

...and hang onto to this thread. If, in a few years, you realize what a jerk you are, you'll have the satisfaction of knowing you grew up. If not, and you haven't wrapped yourself around a telephone pole (or worse), you'll know you haven't. Good luck, son. You're gonna need it.
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit
blah blah blah, thanx ***, i know u are just jeoulus because i am 16 and i got an 8 and u have to work your whole life to get one. TOo bad for u sucker, and don't put the hatred on me because u are a loser.
The funny thing about this is that the last time I recall reading a similar discussion, the teenager said exactly the same thing as you.

For many of us, it's not a matter of working our whole life to get an RX-8 - the RX-8 is priced pretty cheaply. I think the average price of an car in the united states is around 30k. It's a matter of deciding if we want to buy one or not.
Old 12-22-2004 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit
blah blah blah, thanx ***, i know u are just jeoulus because i am 16 and i got an 8 and u have to work your whole life to get one. TOo bad for u sucker, and don't put the hatred on me because u are a loser. I don't think drive school help anyone, it only teach u how to drive the speed limit and drive like a old person. I rather get in to a crash then go to a driving school, what a waste of time and money. I get into a crash , i don't pay for it, someone else will pay, so you think i care? once again, hate the game not the player.
Wow, I really pity our youth if this is the general attitude most of them have.

On another note, I am going to go with a supercharger since I believe it would be better for ME since I use my 8 for autocrossing. A supercharger delivers power consistantly throughout the RPM band where as a Turbocharger is mostly on the top end of the RPM spectrum.
Old 12-22-2004 | 11:18 PM
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Wow, I really pity our youth if this is the general attitude most of them have...
Two reasons for optimism. First, I know a number of considerably more mature 16 y/o's than is in evidence here. (Actually, I've met a number of elementary school kids with greater maturity. ) Second, I suspect most of us will admit that our views at 16 underwent significant change within a few years. Our young friend will, in all likelihood grow up, much as we all did.
Old 12-22-2004 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit
I don't think drive school help anyone, it only teach u how to drive the speed limit and drive like a old person. I rather get in to a crash then go to a driving school, what a waste of time and money.
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You really have NO ******* clue, you know? Go READ what I wrote about driving schools - you see the specific names I mentioned? Those are NOT your high school drivers ed classes - those are strap-your-know-nothing-*** into a race car and head out on a race track performance driving schools. They teach you performance driving.
Take a minute to pull your head out of your ***, stop dreaming about ridiculous Fast'n'Furious nonsense and dorifto stunt driving bullshit, and check out these web sites for REAL PERFORMANCE DRIVING SCHOOLS:
The Bob Bondurant School
Skip Barber Racing School
The Jim Russell Racing School

Right now, it's painfully obvious from your attitude and ignorance that you are a dangerous driver - dangerous because you don't know how to drive (sure you can step on the gas, brake, and steer - that's NOT real driving), but you think you're hot stuff. It would be hilarious to see you get your *** handed to you at an autocross where you'd realize how little you know, how bad a driver you are right now, and how much there is for you to learn about performance driving.

You should really lose the attitude and take some well-intentioned advice - we were all 16 at one time, and we remember how we thought we were great drivers just like you do now. We also can look back with embarrassment at how little we actually knew and how stupid we were - just like you now.

Best of luck, warn me if you're ever coming to this part of Canada so I can stay well away from the roads you're on! :p

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Old 12-22-2004 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
You should really lose the attitude and take some well-intentioned advice - we were all 16 at one time, and we remember how we thought we were great drivers just like you do now. We also can look back with embarrassment at how little we actually knew and how stupid we were - just like you now.
Amen, at 16 I thought I was the shiznit.. until I rear ended 3 cars in 6 months.. But I learned my lesson and wised up. No accidents or tickets in 13 years

but he'll learn his lesson pretty quick once his insurance ends up higher than the tuition at any college
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Why do people insist on talking as though turbochargers are not superchargers? Turbochargers are just centrifugal superchargers that are driven by exhaust gasses.
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I'm 17 and i try to keep it safe. my parents pay for me, so yea i realize im a spoiled brat, but that makes me be extra careful. dont want to have my parents pay for my bad ****.

as for this turbo or super... i'd go super just because of the spread of power throughout. but the higher power of the turbo is tempting...
Old 12-23-2004 | 12:05 AM
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I'm 17 and i try to keep it safe. my parents pay for me, so yea i realize im a spoiled brat, but that makes me be extra careful. dont want to have my parents pay for my bad ****.

as for this turbo or super... i'd go super just because of the spread of power throughout. but the higher power of the turbo is tempting...
I suspect that if you want to achieve the objective stated in your first paragraph, your best strategy is to avoid either one, at least for awhile.
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HAHAH good one jsh1120

i'm guessin' you're right :p
Old 12-23-2004 | 12:36 AM
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Why you take this so serious, i just asking if i should get sc or turbo, and u guys start talking **** and start the hatred. you guys are not helping here, you guys just act like *** hole, not answer the question and talking gay ****. and why some of u say i am not careful driver, it's the guy who run red light, not me. i would listen to you guys warning, but i am still getin the supercharge no one can stop me. i'll drive more careful on the street next time, thank you guys being so nice to me ...
Old 12-23-2004 | 01:06 AM
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Why you take this so serious, i just asking if i should get sc or turbo, and u guys start talking **** and start the hatred. you guys are not helping here,
We take any requests for advice seriously.

We're not talking **** - the advice to skip forced induction power and focus on improving your driving skills so that you can handle the power you've already got, never mind the power you want, is extremely good advice. You're the one talking **** about drifting etc, and completely ignoring what a good performance driving school could do for you.

Again - learning performance driving skills will make your RX-8 faster, it will make any car YOU drive faster, it will also make you safer. Guaranteed. Think that's **** talk? You're wrong.

No hatred - just trying to offer advice for YOUR benefit. Ignore it to your detriment. We are helping, even if it isn't what you want to hear, it's still the best advice you'll receive as far as modifications to your car are concerned. So it might not be as cool to your friends? Forget them - when it comes to cars and performance, chances are they are just as ignorant and learned all they know (relatively nothing) from Fast'n'Furious etc. Be smarter than them - improve your driving skills. Then challenge them to an autocross, and blow their doors off. Now THAT is cool.

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Old 12-23-2004 | 01:47 AM
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No point in having the extra horses if you don't know how to control them.............
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whew! so...turbo charger or super charger, whaddaya think?


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