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Old 07-29-2005, 10:45 AM
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^^^^I feel ya man, but you still gotta find some time to go to a track. Gtechs will never be considered a substitute for track times.
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Hey Lschiavo, you've got a good car with good power. Whether or not you car ran a 13.7 or a 14.5, that's still quick. The strip isn't a place for the 8 anyway. The track and touge is.

With that in mind, just go to the track and get a slip. Do your best and represent. Cause remember, every time ... EVERY TIME an 8 goes down the strip, everyone is watching and saying the 8 is slow. They are saying ALL OF OUR 8s ARE SLOW!!!!

I'm not saying your G-tech is inaccurate. I'm not saying you didn't run a 13.7. If I had to race against you I would prepare to race someone who can run 13.7. So go run a 13.5 and get ALL OF US closer to the 11 mark and shut up our competition.
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Originally Posted by crimson-rain
Hey Lschiavo, you've got a good car with good power. Whether or not you car ran a 13.7 or a 14.5, that's still quick. The strip isn't a place for the 8 anyway. The track and touge is.

With that in mind, just go to the track and get a slip. Do your best and represent. Cause remember, every time ... EVERY TIME an 8 goes down the strip, everyone is watching and saying the 8 is slow. They are saying ALL OF OUR 8s ARE SLOW!!!!

I'm not saying your G-tech is inaccurate. I'm not saying you didn't run a 13.7. If I had to race against you I would prepare to race someone who can run 13.7. So go run a 13.5 and get ALL OF US closer to the 11 mark and shut up our competition.
I'll try my best today, will head to the track...! :D
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Originally Posted by Sigma
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

It takes considerably more power to go from 14.4 to 12.9 than from 15.2 to 13.7.



If we were talking about one-off occurences you'd be right. But if one consistently ran a 15.2 before and then could consistently run a 13.7 afterwards, the gain is real. Does that mean that you'd run a 13.7 at the track? No. But it means you'd probably shave something close to 1.5s off what you would have ran otherwise.
This was my entire point. Luis' difference from non-turbo to turbo was 1.5 seconds. So "in theory" somebody should be able to shave 1.5 seconds off their track time with the same turbo setup.

Ike, get a life. Usually I have respect for your opinions because you try to balance out all the fanboism in this forum, but this time it's just too much.

You'd disbelieve anything RX-8 related, especially if it's faster than your precious WRX. And like it or not, but Luis' car is. He hasn't even taken the time to do any weight reduction yet. His bodykit alone probably weighs 150 lbs.

Why not just a "Way to go!" or "Congratulations!" for once? Would that really hurt your pride?

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Old 07-29-2005, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Lschiavo
I havent gone to the track because I have things to do too. There is a track that opens friday night but sometimes i have other things to do than going there. I usually do my runs on my way home when almost nobody is around.

now, is that time slip from an rx8? Bottomline, i shaved 1.5 sec of my best time, i am happy with that.
Ike's timeslip is *supposedly* from a WRX. Who knows though, right Ike? You can't believe anything on the internet these days.
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???????

IKe what are you talking about?? nice try though....you posted on a thread where Polak posted his time slip for 14.3 or 14.4....selective memory I guess?? give me a break

Funny how every single mag has the 8 at 14.5-14.7 rougly and still we have guys not accepting that the car will run it......guess they used a different car
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maybe ikes slip is of an RX-7. :D
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX

Oh, and here's my slip from the first time at the track when I went semi stage 2. I'm on the left.

lol.....nice try.....Take another pic with your name written on it. I call bigtime bs on this slip. No car, no location.....shiit I could pull up thousands of slips like this for the 8......lol
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lol

Yah I know, anything related to the 8 that might be positive, he has something negative to say......hell I had a thread going just to compare the 8 to a 2001mustang GT, and wasn't getting into "street racing" and he cried about me posting Kills .....jesus there was an entire thread on the 8 vs the WRX??....so IKE get a life.
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If someone does something good he just looks for the negative side of it.
It's ok I guess. Let him or anybody else talk. Sometimes critics devulge useful information. The catch is to figure out what's useful.
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Someone asked for a slip so I posted one I had on my comp, it's not like I'm bragging about it.
I agree with you on the g tech argument but that slip is total bs and you know it.......I'm sure that WRX's with those mods will achieve that time but it's not your slip.....lol :p
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Originally Posted by Broker73
IKe what are you talking about?? nice try though....you posted on a thread where Polak posted his time slip for 14.3 or 14.4....selective memory I guess?? give me a break

Funny how every single mag has the 8 at 14.5-14.7 rougly and still we have guys not accepting that the car will run it......guess they used a different car
Funny, but Polak never ran a 14.3 nor 14.4, who has the selective memory?

Maz, I don't see what's so unbelieveable about it, but ok...
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Originally Posted by khtm
...and DAMN IS IT FAST! :D

(background info in this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/dyno-might-have-read-wrong-what-about-mid-13s-1-4-mile-67666/)

Especially in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd...it pulls very strongly starting around 3k RPM and all the way to redline.

Holy ****. Huge difference from stock...huge.

I had to be careful when I got into tighter traffic because I didn't want to WOT it and rear-end anyone by accident. :p

I don't know if he mentioned this before, but here's something interesting:
- he has the GT version in Canada LOADED, which is leather, moonroof, NAV, etc.
- he has the MazdaSpeed bodykit
- when I drove it, Luis and his girlfriend were in the car.

So I'm just guessing, but if he ran a 13.7 with all this extra weight (minus girlfriend), I wonder what the same turbo setup would do on a barebones RX-8 at sea-level? I hope I'm not just being optimistic in saying that he would be into the 12s.

Well done Luis! You definitely have yourself a "rocketship" there.
From your reaction, it seems like this car is a whole different animal. I've been waiting for the SFR dyno sheets to determine whether or not I'll buy it. On the other hand If there is a kit that could possibly get me in the low 13's possibly high 12's that would be perfect for me. :D Great feedback.
BTW I do have barebones RX-8.
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slip

IKE, check out the thread a while back.....he posted his time slip...jesus you even commented on the fact that it was nice to see a slip in the mid 14's....my god man, you can't even remember what you said, and we are suppose to take you seriously......yah ok
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IKE, check out the thread a while back.....he posted his time slip...jesus you even commented on the fact that it was nice to see a slip in the mid 14's....my god man, you can't even remember what you said, and we are suppose to take you seriously......yah ok
YOu didn't claim that Polak ran a "mid-14" you claimed he ran a "14.3 or 14.4". Ike said that he never ran a 14.3 or 14.4 stock. Ike is right, Polak ran neither a 14.3 nor a 14.4 -- he ran a 14.58.
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Time slip

IKE seriously, are you saying you don't remember talking about him posting his time slip??.....what amazes me is you speak like your word is god, yet also fail to produce any hard facts, just your expert opinion

like I said, I have only seen one mad time with the 8 at 15sec, every other time has been close to mis 14's.....currently reading the July R&T speed addition and they also have the 8 at 14.6

I thought you were actually ok until this thread, when you claim to not remember comments you POSTED......

guys like you are totally transparent, posting 1000's of posts on a site where you don't even own the car? Tell me who needs help? :o

Go back to your WRX club, and have fun.......dam I wish you were in town, I'd gladly run my stock 8 against you any time. Stock for stock of sourse :p
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Lschiavo good luck with that. if you are happy with your car injoy and for the haters get lost is not your car is his. thank you [QUOTE]
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Anyhow, goodluck at the track Luis, wasn't trying to be a "hater". I just had some problems with the screwy math some people were doing, and I am not much of a fan of the G-tech as you can tell. G-techs can be fun, but one of the best baseline you'll get is from making a few passes at the track and then going back to the same track and comparing times after you do some mods. Plus it's a heck of a lot mpre fun going to the drag races, I love it :D
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guys like you are totally transparent, posting 1000's of posts on a site where you don't even own the car? Tell me who needs help? :o

first helike sigma said he remembers polak's thread better than you apparently . read sima's post above. second i had 500 posts on here berfor ethe first car wa sbuilt. ther are lots of peole on here with hundreds and now thousand sof posts who still dont own the car. that has never been a pre requisite for being a member of this site.
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Originally Posted by Lschiavo
I'll try my best today, will head to the track...! :D
Did you make it out?
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Originally Posted by Moostafa29
Did you make it out?
Sorry didnt go...
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Originally Posted by Lschiavo
Sorry didnt go...
Luis,

[sarcasm - on] I hope you learn your lesson. Never ever post on the RX8 forum again!! No matter how good you car performs. There is alway pressure to go to the track so others can feel vindicated that their arm chair racing fantasies are fulfilled. It not like you have a life outside the RX8! [sarcasm - off]

BTW your Gtech results prove enough for me that the Greddy made some massive gains in power. Thanks for posting
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Originally Posted by Magic8
Luis,

[sarcasm - on] I hope you learn your lesson. Never ever post on the RX8 forum again!! No matter how good you car performs. There is alway pressure to go to the track so others can feel vindicated that their arm chair racing fantasies are fulfilled. It not like you have a life outside the RX8! [sarcasm - off]

BTW your Gtech results prove enough for me that the Greddy made some massive gains in power. Thanks for posting
LOL, comparing apples to apples (gtech to gtech) is good gains...
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Lschiavo do you drive fomula one car style ? You are the race driver right...
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Ike reminds me a bit of a guy called Chris Johnson, LOL :D


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