So I got to drive Luis' car last night...
07-29-2005 | 12:40 PM
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Hey Lschiavo, you've got a good car with good power. Whether or not you car ran a 13.7 or a 14.5, that's still quick. The strip isn't a place for the 8 anyway. The track and touge is.
With that in mind, just go to the track and get a slip. Do your best and represent. Cause remember, every time ... EVERY TIME an 8 goes down the strip, everyone is watching and saying the 8 is slow. They are saying ALL OF OUR 8s ARE SLOW!!!!
I'm not saying your G-tech is inaccurate. I'm not saying you didn't run a 13.7. If I had to race against you I would prepare to race someone who can run 13.7. So go run a 13.5 and get ALL OF US closer to the 11 mark and shut up our competition.
With that in mind, just go to the track and get a slip. Do your best and represent. Cause remember, every time ... EVERY TIME an 8 goes down the strip, everyone is watching and saying the 8 is slow. They are saying ALL OF OUR 8s ARE SLOW!!!!
I'm not saying your G-tech is inaccurate. I'm not saying you didn't run a 13.7. If I had to race against you I would prepare to race someone who can run 13.7. So go run a 13.5 and get ALL OF US closer to the 11 mark and shut up our competition.
07-29-2005 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by crimson-rain
Hey Lschiavo, you've got a good car with good power. Whether or not you car ran a 13.7 or a 14.5, that's still quick. The strip isn't a place for the 8 anyway. The track and touge is.
With that in mind, just go to the track and get a slip. Do your best and represent. Cause remember, every time ... EVERY TIME an 8 goes down the strip, everyone is watching and saying the 8 is slow. They are saying ALL OF OUR 8s ARE SLOW!!!!
I'm not saying your G-tech is inaccurate. I'm not saying you didn't run a 13.7. If I had to race against you I would prepare to race someone who can run 13.7. So go run a 13.5 and get ALL OF US closer to the 11 mark and shut up our competition.
With that in mind, just go to the track and get a slip. Do your best and represent. Cause remember, every time ... EVERY TIME an 8 goes down the strip, everyone is watching and saying the 8 is slow. They are saying ALL OF OUR 8s ARE SLOW!!!!
I'm not saying your G-tech is inaccurate. I'm not saying you didn't run a 13.7. If I had to race against you I would prepare to race someone who can run 13.7. So go run a 13.5 and get ALL OF US closer to the 11 mark and shut up our competition.
07-29-2005 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sigma
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way.
It takes considerably more power to go from 14.4 to 12.9 than from 15.2 to 13.7.
If we were talking about one-off occurences you'd be right. But if one consistently ran a 15.2 before and then could consistently run a 13.7 afterwards, the gain is real. Does that mean that you'd run a 13.7 at the track? No. But it means you'd probably shave something close to 1.5s off what you would have ran otherwise.
It takes considerably more power to go from 14.4 to 12.9 than from 15.2 to 13.7.
If we were talking about one-off occurences you'd be right. But if one consistently ran a 15.2 before and then could consistently run a 13.7 afterwards, the gain is real. Does that mean that you'd run a 13.7 at the track? No. But it means you'd probably shave something close to 1.5s off what you would have ran otherwise.
Ike, get a life. Usually I have respect for your opinions because you try to balance out all the fanboism in this forum, but this time it's just too much.
You'd disbelieve anything RX-8 related, especially if it's faster than your precious WRX. And like it or not, but Luis' car is. He hasn't even taken the time to do any weight reduction yet. His bodykit alone probably weighs 150 lbs.
Why not just a "Way to go!" or "Congratulations!" for once? Would that really hurt your pride?
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07-29-2005 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lschiavo
I havent gone to the track because I have things to do too. There is a track that opens friday night but sometimes i have other things to do than going there. I usually do my runs on my way home when almost nobody is around.
now, is that time slip from an rx8? Bottomline, i shaved 1.5 sec of my best time, i am happy with that.
now, is that time slip from an rx8? Bottomline, i shaved 1.5 sec of my best time, i am happy with that.
07-29-2005 | 01:26 PM
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???????
IKe what are you talking about?? nice try though....you posted on a thread where Polak posted his time slip for 14.3 or 14.4....selective memory I guess?? give me a break
Funny how every single mag has the 8 at 14.5-14.7 rougly and still we have guys not accepting that the car will run it......guess they used a different car
Funny how every single mag has the 8 at 14.5-14.7 rougly and still we have guys not accepting that the car will run it......guess they used a different car
07-29-2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Oh, and here's my slip from the first time at the track when I went semi stage 2. I'm on the left.
lol.....nice try.....Take another pic with your name written on it. I call bigtime bs on this slip. No car, no location.....shiit I could pull up thousands of slips like this for the 8......lol
07-29-2005 | 02:03 PM
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lol
Yah I know, anything related to the 8 that might be positive, he has something negative to say......hell I had a thread going just to compare the 8 to a 2001mustang GT, and wasn't getting into "street racing" and he cried about me posting Kills 
.....jesus there was an entire thread on the 8 vs the WRX??....so IKE get a life.
.....jesus there was an entire thread on the 8 vs the WRX??....so IKE get a life.
07-29-2005 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Someone asked for a slip so I posted one I had on my comp, it's not like I'm bragging about it.
:p
07-29-2005 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Broker73
IKe what are you talking about?? nice try though....you posted on a thread where Polak posted his time slip for 14.3 or 14.4....selective memory I guess?? give me a break
Funny how every single mag has the 8 at 14.5-14.7 rougly and still we have guys not accepting that the car will run it......guess they used a different car
Funny how every single mag has the 8 at 14.5-14.7 rougly and still we have guys not accepting that the car will run it......guess they used a different car
Maz, I don't see what's so unbelieveable about it, but ok...
07-29-2005 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by khtm
...and DAMN IS IT FAST! :D
(background info in this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/dyno-might-have-read-wrong-what-about-mid-13s-1-4-mile-67666/)
Especially in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd...it pulls very strongly starting around 3k RPM and all the way to redline.
Holy ****. Huge difference from stock...huge.
I had to be careful when I got into tighter traffic because I didn't want to WOT it and rear-end anyone by accident. :p
I don't know if he mentioned this before, but here's something interesting:
- he has the GT version in Canada LOADED, which is leather, moonroof, NAV, etc.
- he has the MazdaSpeed bodykit
- when I drove it, Luis and his girlfriend were in the car.
So I'm just guessing, but if he ran a 13.7 with all this extra weight (minus girlfriend), I wonder what the same turbo setup would do on a barebones RX-8 at sea-level? I hope I'm not just being optimistic in saying that he would be into the 12s.
Well done Luis! You definitely have yourself a "rocketship" there.
(background info in this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/dyno-might-have-read-wrong-what-about-mid-13s-1-4-mile-67666/)
Especially in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd...it pulls very strongly starting around 3k RPM and all the way to redline.
Holy ****. Huge difference from stock...huge.
I had to be careful when I got into tighter traffic because I didn't want to WOT it and rear-end anyone by accident. :p
I don't know if he mentioned this before, but here's something interesting:
- he has the GT version in Canada LOADED, which is leather, moonroof, NAV, etc.
- he has the MazdaSpeed bodykit
- when I drove it, Luis and his girlfriend were in the car.
So I'm just guessing, but if he ran a 13.7 with all this extra weight (minus girlfriend), I wonder what the same turbo setup would do on a barebones RX-8 at sea-level? I hope I'm not just being optimistic in saying that he would be into the 12s.
Well done Luis! You definitely have yourself a "rocketship" there.
BTW I do have barebones RX-8.
07-29-2005 | 10:58 PM
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slip
IKE, check out the thread a while back.....he posted his time slip...jesus you even commented on the fact that it was nice to see a slip in the mid 14's....my god man, you can't even remember what you said, and we are suppose to take you seriously......yah ok
07-29-2005 | 11:06 PM
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IKE, check out the thread a while back.....he posted his time slip...jesus you even commented on the fact that it was nice to see a slip in the mid 14's....my god man, you can't even remember what you said, and we are suppose to take you seriously......yah ok
07-29-2005 | 11:08 PM
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Time slip
IKE seriously, are you saying you don't remember talking about him posting his time slip??.....what amazes me is you speak like your word is god, yet also fail to produce any hard facts, just your expert opinion
like I said, I have only seen one mad time with the 8 at 15sec, every other time has been close to mis 14's.....currently reading the July R&T speed addition and they also have the 8 at 14.6
I thought you were actually ok until this thread, when you claim to not remember comments you POSTED......
guys like you are totally transparent, posting 1000's of posts on a site where you don't even own the car? Tell me who needs help? :o
Go back to your WRX club, and have fun.......dam I wish you were in town, I'd gladly run my stock 8 against you any time. Stock for stock of sourse :p
like I said, I have only seen one mad time with the 8 at 15sec, every other time has been close to mis 14's.....currently reading the July R&T speed addition and they also have the 8 at 14.6
I thought you were actually ok until this thread, when you claim to not remember comments you POSTED......
guys like you are totally transparent, posting 1000's of posts on a site where you don't even own the car? Tell me who needs help? :o
Go back to your WRX club, and have fun.......dam I wish you were in town, I'd gladly run my stock 8 against you any time. Stock for stock of sourse :p
07-29-2005 | 11:29 PM
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Anyhow, goodluck at the track Luis, wasn't trying to be a "hater". I just had some problems with the screwy math some people were doing, and I am not much of a fan of the G-tech as you can tell. G-techs can be fun, but one of the best baseline you'll get is from making a few passes at the track and then going back to the same track and comparing times after you do some mods. Plus it's a heck of a lot mpre fun going to the drag races, I love it :D
07-29-2005 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Broker73
guys like you are totally transparent, posting 1000's of posts on a site where you don't even own the car? Tell me who needs help? :o
first helike sigma said he remembers polak's thread better than you apparently . read sima's post above. second i had 500 posts on here berfor ethe first car wa sbuilt. ther are lots of peole on here with hundreds and now thousand sof posts who still dont own the car. that has never been a pre requisite for being a member of this site.
07-30-2005 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lschiavo
Sorry didnt go...
[sarcasm - on] I hope you learn your lesson. Never ever post on the RX8 forum again!! No matter how good you car performs. There is alway pressure to go to the track so others can feel vindicated that their arm chair racing fantasies are fulfilled. It not like you have a life outside the RX8!
[sarcasm - off]BTW your Gtech results prove enough for me that the Greddy made some massive gains in power. Thanks for posting
07-30-2005 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Magic8
Luis,
[sarcasm - on] I hope you learn your lesson. Never ever post on the RX8 forum again!! No matter how good you car performs. There is alway pressure to go to the track so others can feel vindicated that their arm chair racing fantasies are fulfilled. It not like you have a life outside the RX8! [sarcasm - off]
BTW your Gtech results prove enough for me that the Greddy made some massive gains in power. Thanks for posting
[sarcasm - on] I hope you learn your lesson. Never ever post on the RX8 forum again!! No matter how good you car performs. There is alway pressure to go to the track so others can feel vindicated that their arm chair racing fantasies are fulfilled. It not like you have a life outside the RX8!
[sarcasm - off]BTW your Gtech results prove enough for me that the Greddy made some massive gains in power. Thanks for posting