So I got a ride in a turbo today....
06-05-2004, 09:18 PM
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So I got a ride in a turbo today....
A turbo what you might be asking? Well, a turbo RX-8!
Here's the abreviated story: (no need to Viggen me
The guy that posted here before that was doing a turbo on his WB car is local to me. So I gave him a call and since he was in the shop today, I stopped by his place to get to know him and check out the place. This is a pretty much dedicated rotary shop he's at. The stacks of housings, rusted rotors and other misc parts where a pretty good indicator. Of course, the Second Gen drag car, the multiple 3rd, 2nd and 1st Gens also hinted at it. I got a chance to check out his 3 rotor FD while there, etc. Basically, I'm saying the guy knows rotary's. SO I got to check out his Blue RX-8.
Upon opening the hood, it looks like he just has a K&N intake on it. However once you remove the engine cover you see there's some extra tubing there, and not a straight pipe from the air filter over to the cars intake. When you start getting on your knees you can see the intercooler in front of the radiator. The turbo itself is pretty much invisible, in the rear left quadrant of the engine bay. It's a super clean install. If you didnt pull off the engine cover you'd never know whats happening with the car.
Next, sitting in the car. The Boost controller is sitting in the ashtray location. The cr runs buttery smooth when cranked. I mean it idles better than stock IMHO. The noise is also very nice as it is almost stock (with the turbo manifold muting the intake so it isnt as loud as a short intake), with that distinctice turbione whistle in the background. Driving it around without going nuts is very nice. Not loud at all, and you only hear the blowoff valve doing it's thing. Car is very well behaved. But lay the hammer down and lookout! Spools up by 3500RPM with the current settings and using a G-tech, pulled a 12.3 1/4 mile. Same G-tech on a stock FD showed a 12.8 I beleive. The noise as it spools up is amazing, and the car just takes off like a bat out of hell. Traction control needs to stay on cause it really hauls *** now. The specs as it is running now is 6 PSI, everything stock on the engine with a custom built piggyback computer unit. This is good for about 100HP estimated. This is NOT the final tune however. Final tune is planned for 12PSI using a stock engine, just upgrading the fuel injectors. No Seals are changed, nothing else is done to the engine
Hopefully he will have the car ready by the end of the month. When he's done tuning it and finishes all the details (making the kit look pretty and such) I'll take some pics and post them up.
So I'll say this. Hot damn! Cant wait for my warranty to finish out, and save some money! This should be awesome. BTW, if anybody is in the SoFla area, he's a cool guy and isnt shy about showing it off. Let me know if anybody else wants to see/hear more about it.
Here's the abreviated story: (no need to Viggen me
The guy that posted here before that was doing a turbo on his WB car is local to me. So I gave him a call and since he was in the shop today, I stopped by his place to get to know him and check out the place. This is a pretty much dedicated rotary shop he's at. The stacks of housings, rusted rotors and other misc parts where a pretty good indicator. Of course, the Second Gen drag car, the multiple 3rd, 2nd and 1st Gens also hinted at it. I got a chance to check out his 3 rotor FD while there, etc. Basically, I'm saying the guy knows rotary's. SO I got to check out his Blue RX-8.
Upon opening the hood, it looks like he just has a K&N intake on it. However once you remove the engine cover you see there's some extra tubing there, and not a straight pipe from the air filter over to the cars intake. When you start getting on your knees you can see the intercooler in front of the radiator. The turbo itself is pretty much invisible, in the rear left quadrant of the engine bay. It's a super clean install. If you didnt pull off the engine cover you'd never know whats happening with the car.
Next, sitting in the car. The Boost controller is sitting in the ashtray location. The cr runs buttery smooth when cranked. I mean it idles better than stock IMHO. The noise is also very nice as it is almost stock (with the turbo manifold muting the intake so it isnt as loud as a short intake), with that distinctice turbione whistle in the background. Driving it around without going nuts is very nice. Not loud at all, and you only hear the blowoff valve doing it's thing. Car is very well behaved. But lay the hammer down and lookout! Spools up by 3500RPM with the current settings and using a G-tech, pulled a 12.3 1/4 mile. Same G-tech on a stock FD showed a 12.8 I beleive. The noise as it spools up is amazing, and the car just takes off like a bat out of hell. Traction control needs to stay on cause it really hauls *** now. The specs as it is running now is 6 PSI, everything stock on the engine with a custom built piggyback computer unit. This is good for about 100HP estimated. This is NOT the final tune however. Final tune is planned for 12PSI using a stock engine, just upgrading the fuel injectors. No Seals are changed, nothing else is done to the engine
Hopefully he will have the car ready by the end of the month. When he's done tuning it and finishes all the details (making the kit look pretty and such) I'll take some pics and post them up.
So I'll say this. Hot damn! Cant wait for my warranty to finish out, and save some money! This should be awesome. BTW, if anybody is in the SoFla area, he's a cool guy and isnt shy about showing it off. Let me know if anybody else wants to see/hear more about it.
06-05-2004, 11:08 PM
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Yowza! 100HP at 6PSI is nice . I'm not so sure about pushing it up to 12PSI, but it's good to know somebody is out there doing all of this testing for us!
. I'm not so sure about pushing it up to 12PSI, but it's good to know somebody is out there doing all of this testing for us!
06-06-2004, 12:08 AM
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Genom has been to the top of the mountain. And is it good.
that's awesome that there's a quick and running turbo out there...i have 234465432 questions, but i think now I need to make a trip down south!
that's awesome that there's a quick and running turbo out there...i have 234465432 questions, but i think now I need to make a trip down south!
06-06-2004, 12:28 AM
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For cryin out loud. Just when I think this car can't make me any poorer...... The worst part is, you know you have to get it when it comes out, no matter how much it costs. I can't wait.
06-06-2004, 12:52 AM
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someone needs to get videos, im very happy to hear such a great 1/4 time, but it just doesnt seem that 100hp=over a 3 second drop in 1/4 time....just seems a little odd to me.
06-06-2004, 01:48 AM
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Was it a rolling start or dead start to the quarter mile G-tech run? If it showed 12.8 for a stock 3rd gen then it is a second too fast. A stock 3rd gen with a perfect launch does 13.8. I could estimate this RX-8 doing a realistic 13.3 or so which is GREAT!!! running with stock EVO's and STi's now...
There are 13B's running 16-20 psi and more with stock internals, just proper fuel and tuning and this is with 9:1 or less static compression ratio. I don't see any trouble on bringing the Renesis up to 12 psi as long as proper fuel and tuning is added as well... IT"S ALL IN THE TUNING!!!!
Great job!
There are 13B's running 16-20 psi and more with stock internals, just proper fuel and tuning and this is with 9:1 or less static compression ratio. I don't see any trouble on bringing the Renesis up to 12 psi as long as proper fuel and tuning is added as well... IT"S ALL IN THE TUNING!!!!
Great job!
06-06-2004, 08:10 AM
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Yep Its turborx8 aight.Ive spoke with Adrian as well and seems to be a sharp guy.He told me basiclly the same thing with one difference.He said that the 12psi setup moves a motor mount and will not be sold to the public.It will be and in shop install only for now.The 6psi he is running now will be sold and they are working on the motor mount thing to make the install easier.He will not be posting anymore here and i cant say i blame em.
I dont think he was selling anything as thier kit was at least 2 monthes out from his last post.People here scream for info and when he gives it he is expected to pay to do so?He would have been happy to pay for advertising when he had something to sell.Shows where the real interest of the owner of this site is.Sad
I dont think he was selling anything as thier kit was at least 2 monthes out from his last post.People here scream for info and when he gives it he is expected to pay to do so?He would have been happy to pay for advertising when he had something to sell.Shows where the real interest of the owner of this site is.Sad
06-06-2004, 11:08 AM
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The 12.3 time was with 10PSI, not 6. My bad, didnt explain myelf properly. The car has run 10PSI, just not too well since it still needs to be fine tuned. Thats pretty much all thats missing. That and polishing the manifold :D
Edit: Once the car is tuned to the end specs, I'll be getting some video's and pics of it on the dyno, etc. Some in car video's would be nice as well I'd imagine.
Edit: Once the car is tuned to the end specs, I'll be getting some video's and pics of it on the dyno, etc. Some in car video's would be nice as well I'd imagine.
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06-06-2004, 09:31 PM
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Epitrochoid, guy321... you guys wanna caravan out to this shop one day??? Maybe next sunday? I REALLY need to check this out. 10 psi sounds like exactly what I need You guys up for it?
You guys up for it?
06-06-2004, 10:12 PM
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12.3 1/4 MILE !? You are halling *** there buddy. Evo's and such are 4 wheel drive and the 8 is known for wheel hop. I mean a 12.3 aint far fron a sub 12 1/4 mile time!
I'm not doubting what ya saw man and I appreciate the time it took for ya to get this info to us but its just hard for me to believe that this car has the possibility to do a sub 12 1/4 mile with the tires and rear end setup this car has.(in stock form). Still a working turbo and no ecu problems is great news! Keep us posted!
olddragger
I'm not doubting what ya saw man and I appreciate the time it took for ya to get this info to us but its just hard for me to believe that this car has the possibility to do a sub 12 1/4 mile with the tires and rear end setup this car has.(in stock form). Still a working turbo and no ecu problems is great news! Keep us posted!
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06-06-2004, 11:06 PM
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Keep in mind those are G-Tech numbers, and from the benchmark he listed for a stock FD, it appears to be 0.5-1 second faster than reality. I don't want to downplay what he has going on there though...it is the best news we've had on the FI front yet!
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06-07-2004, 08:06 AM
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ive ran gtech for a couple years now, and whenever i go to the track its always dead on, or 1/10th of a second off....so i believe those if they are used properly