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Old 03-09-2005, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SSR Engineering
The kit has been completed, the final numbers are 287WHP @ 8 PSI, the track results would be up to the customer since it was his car.
not laptimes, i meant maybe videos or whatever of a full track day just to demonstrate reliability, among other things
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I am not taking sides but is there a reason that you guys are hounding them so bad?? I did not see this type of aggression on the Greddy thread.

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Hou-Tx-Rx8 your right I don't understand why they are hounding them so bad. Maybe because I started this thread about the great HP figures and they thought the product was complete and ready to ship.. But we should cut them some slack its seems like a great kit, and for those who don't think so, fine you don't have to buy it, but don't try to put down the product or the company on this thread start your own thread, this thread was to give info on a new product if its good or bad , but not for personnel attacks .

For the guys who want to keep on the negative side of everything, Start a thread about Greddy, Pettit, and others on this thread that was suspose to provide products that are not finished yet... Geez

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Originally Posted by smrx8
i thought they were up to 12 psi on the other thread ????
That was with the new injectors and water injection...
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OK, I'm a little confused. Weren't we at 292 at 6 psi when the thread started? Did you back off timing or add fuel for some safety margin?

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I think SSR realized RP and RG were correct on the limits of output at 6psi. His 292 dyno was overcompensating for air pressure since the first pull was on a n/a car and the second was on a turbo (the air pressure effects turbos diffrently).
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SSR, I just want to say publicly what a GREAT job you've been doing fielding questions about your kit. A lot of people would have gotten pissed and/or gone away mad, what with all the agressive questions, naysayers, and negative attitudes. But you have stayed cool and done an excellent job of replying without taking offense.

Now post up that new dyno chart (and even better yet, maybe some time slips? :D) and sit back - the power junkies with money are going to be flocking to this kit. You've reset the bar higher for FI kits in general too.
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Originally Posted by Floyd
I think SSR realized RP and RG were correct on the limits of output at 6psi. His 292 dyno was overcompensating for air pressure since the first pull was on a n/a car and the second was on a turbo (the air pressure effects turbos diffrently).
Huh?
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^^what he said...if it's limited to 6 then why is the greddy kickin it at 7? also waht is up with the comment on teh dyno pulls and tryign to overcomensate for air pressure? that just made no sense to me...some one please explain it in english...or bad english as those are teh only 2 languages i speak:p
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Huh?
I think... He's saying that the numbers we got are impossible for the PSI we ran
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I've got to agree with "Omi". I just finished reading the last of this thread and I have to commend you SSR/SFR for still sticking around. I don't know much about FI for the RX8 but from what I see it looks like you guys have done a phenomenal job. If nothing else you've given us RX8 guys another option to look at for FI. Keep up the good work and I look forward to hearing results from Rotoman when he puts on of these bad boys on his ride.
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ok i thin it was 6psi without new injectors and liquid intercooler......
12 psi with new injector and liquid... SAFELY.... right TIM
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If the guinea pig car was returned to the owner when will we see the dyno of car after the turbo was installed?
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The turbo remained attached to the car. The owner got the system for free.
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but what were the final hp gains?
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Originally Posted by jwbond
but what were the final hp gains?

I think he mentioned 287whp at 8psi.


Also, good job for sticking around and answering everybody's questions.
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Any feedback from the owner? Does anyone know who it is and can ask them to post how they like it?
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I tried to PM him but I didnt get a response yet.

Let me try again...
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hey ssr, do you guys have a shop in san diego? i would like to go there and check out the turbo. i might get the ssr turbo instead of greddy. i like more power turbo
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Originally Posted by black-rx8-msbodykit
hey ssr, do you guys have a shop in san diego? i would like to go there and check out the turbo. i might get the ssr turbo instead of greddy. i like more power turbo
i think they constructed this kit with Speed Force Racing, they are located in Santee (outside of San Diego).
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do we have any idea on the cost and when it will be released?
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What? It is released and look at their website....

http://www.ssr-engineering.com (Special Price)

http://www.speedforceracing.com (Standard Price / Creators of the system)
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Wow. $7000 to get a system with fuel management (which you will need in all cases) just to get to 8 PSI and within 20 HP of what you can do with the Greddy kit.
Interesting.
That is double what it cost me to make my own system in the same power range.
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20 hp? What are you basing that off of? Do you not believe their hp rating?

Jon's RWHP = 240.4 rwhp
Jeff's RWHP = 225.0 rwhp (but he's still tuning)

That would make it at least 47 additional hp....
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I got 225 HP with only 5.5 PSI. I'm up to 9 PSI now and easily 275 HP or more.

They are claiming 285 HP (which is possible), yet they offer the fuel management as an option, which it absolutely isn't.
The fuel management is absolutely key to any kind of real numbers.


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