HiTMaNN

so if it easily removable than i can buy it and than just take it off if my engnioe gets effed up :D

Jump120MPH

They are waiting on Maurice(canzoomer) to develop the piggy back for it. Thats all they are waiting on. Maurice has to much on his plate at the moment. He still has not finished the batch of Stage 1.1 for the 2nd group buy. That order was placed the 1st of April and it suppose to be like another 3-4 weeks before they get finished So it could be months.

Jump120MPH

Well just an update. I went by there yesterday to take some pics of the 8, but it wasnt there. It was down at MC racing getting something put on. Larry said that Maurice is done with the piggyback and it will be back at the dealership sometime next week. Ill be back up there for work and am goign to stop by. I hope they get some dyno numbers soon on it. Ill give another update next week.

punishr

Cool, thanks for the update!!!!!!!!!!

IKnowNot'ing

I hope their engineering is better than their spelling (see picture in first post) !!!!

KCROTOR

Sunflower Mazda is just up the street from my house. I know Larry, he is a good guy. We have discussed this car many times. If you have some specific questions list them out for me and I will pop in and get some answers for you.

Hey SHOWOFF - is that you Art?

davefzr

I have a couple...

1. I was told that they would be finished by the EOM.. is this still feasable or will it be extended?

2. How far are they away from dyno figures?

3. Do they forsee this product being available to the public from east to west coasts before 2005? Or.. will it only be for local customers....

bowman

KCROTOR, here are some pending questions.

shelleys_man_06

I am starting to lean towards supercharging, well at least this week. I believe, since this particular supercharger is of a centrifugal type, full boost may be reached in the mid to upper rpm range. That is what I have heard from other tuners that use centrifugal superchargers. I remember when SCC did an article on their demo Civic, it produced somewhere around 277 hp, but it was all in the high rpm range. IMO, it defeated the purpose of bringing low-end power to the B16A. Can centrifugal superchargers be tuned to start boost at low-rpm? I know roots compressors have this ability, but what about changing the gear/belt ratios within the device to allow full boost at a lower rpm? Is that what Sunflower is trying to do? The Mazda RX-8 is in dire need of low-rpm power.

Jump120MPH

I was up there on Wed. The car was at MC Racing getting some things done to it. They were still waiting on the piggyback to arrive from Canzoomer. I would guess in about a month they would have it tuned and some dyno numbers. When I talked to Larry he said that he had people in Washington on the list to buy the kit. Im sure it will be availible to everyone. Im waiting to see some numbers. If they make 100-120hp like they are expecting Ill definitely be tempted to purchase it.

IKnowNot'ing

Do you have any info on this new Canzoomer piggyback (god, I hate this word!)? Does it feature a MAP input and close loop boost control? And what other features?

Jump120MPH

I dont know anything about it.

punishr

Hey Jump120mph, When you say that the car was getting some things done to it, What kind of things are you talking about?

IZoomZoomI

I might be really off on this but isn't a supercharger hp driven? So the rx8 doesn't really have much hp to begin with doesn't that mean there will be a lot of drag with this specific type of FI? Im pretty much sold on sc'ing the car just waiting for a positive displacement version.

IZoomZoomI

here's a really good read on s/c
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...t=supercharger

Jump120MPH

Im not sure what all was getting done. I think one thing was they were replacing the bracket that the SC mounts to. They were waiting on the piggy back to come in so I assume that they were going to install it and start tuning it.

shelleys_man_06

I'm confused about what you mean by hp driven. If you mean by engine driven, then yes. A positive displacement supercharger, such as a Roots blower (I think), might just give the RX-8 some low-end power where it needs it. Unfortunately, the boost will probably run out at mid to high-rpm. That's okay, because the tertiary ports would have opened by then .

rotarygod

Any type of forced induction is hp driven.

shelleys_man_06

I'm still unfamiliar with that term .

rotarygod

Eugene answer your damn phone!

shelleys_man_06

I misplaced my phone for the time being .

KCROTOR

Just a quick update:

I Stopped by and spoke with Larry at Sunflower Mazda this past weekend. Not too much new info to report, but here is what I got:
Maurice (Canzoomer) has a Procharged car and is currently in the process of tuning with his ECU. He has it tuned up to 6,000 RPM with no issues (no warning lights, no pings, etc.) He will be working on the 6,000 - up range this week and should have things completed very soon. Maurice is runnung 4-5 lbs right now and all indications are that this is not going to be a problem for the Renesis at all.
MC Racing has a car with a fully functioning kit on it, but running the stock ECU. Once they get the ECU from Maurice they should have a complete car ready to test. Larry thinks they should have this available sometime in August.
MC Racing has a dyno on site and has done some baseline runs with a stock RX-8. As soon as they have a complete car they will make some initial dyno runs for evaluation.
Larry indicates that the black project car they have is already sold and there are orders in for an addition 21 Procharger RX-8s. These orders are from all over the country despite the fact that Sunflower Mazda is the only dealership where any warranty work can be handled.
When asked what news is coming from Mazda he indicated that they are still saying they will bring out an "RX-7". When asked about engine changes such as larger displacement Larry indicated that Mazda believes the Renesis has a great deal of potential at 1.3l and they are working with a twin turbo set-up for the car. This has us both scratching our heads.
Larry also said he has a friend with a Nissan dealership and that the 350z sales are way off right now. The only thing they are selling are the convertibles. There are indications that impracticallity and harsh ride as is indicated in edmuns.com long term test is taking a toll.

shelleys_man_06

Are you talking about a sequential twin-turbo setup, or otherwise?

It's good to see Maurice, Charles, et al on top of the RX-8 game .

Do you know if there was any chance of exceeding 7 psi in the RX-8's current state of tune?

Speed Racer

I was browsing through the manuals for the Greddy eManage (aka Canzoomer) and they suggest adding their 3 Bar pressure sensor into the loop if you exceed the capacity of the factory air flow meter or MAP sensor. The pressure sensor can then be used for the scale of each Map table.

More info

bowman

That's pretty good since they have not published any performance specs or price.

Anyone on this forum one of those 22?