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Old 09-20-2005 | 09:06 PM
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thinking about the greddy kit...

I'm currently deciding whether or not I should get the greddy turbo kit. I know people say money is not an issue for sum things, but it is, and I have found a great deal for the kit. I just can't decide one hundred percent if I should wait for another turbo kit to be released or go wth a sc kit like the pettit or the later Axial flow. Now that the interceptor is availible i'm really liking the greddy more and more. However, I'm aware of the potential problems with the kit, but just leaving it mostly at lower boosts (5-7 lbs) I think I can avoid most of them. Any suggestions?
Old 09-20-2005 | 09:30 PM
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don't get me wrong, i love turbo. turbo is, for me, the only way to make horse power out of a japanese car. affordable too. you say money is an issue, and i don't want to be your financial advisor, but getting a turbo kit for the 8 is just gonna cost you more money down the road. switching from a NA to a turbo powered car requires you to change your driving habits. maintenance is crucial. reliability falls dramatically. not tryin' to scare you or anyone considering turbocharging, but the 8 hasn't been out that long. companies are rushing to push turbo kits out b/c of the demand in power. IMO, i'd wait another year or so, see what other kind of kits come out.

just my $.02
Old 09-20-2005 | 09:52 PM
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thanks man, thats kinda how i've been feeling...it's just so damn hard to be patient when hp is so close!
Old 09-20-2005 | 09:54 PM
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GO with NA mods for now that will still be useful later on with a turbo. Save up enough money and get a better turbo later. Go with a flywheel, or high flow cat/midpipe for now. Those will both give you results you can feel, and can be used with a turbo kit as well, so you wont be wasting your money.
Old 09-20-2005 | 10:23 PM
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yea im actually looking at an unorthodox flywheel and rotary performance midpipe.
Old 09-20-2005 | 10:25 PM
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and/or the supercat.
Old 09-20-2005 | 10:37 PM
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You should use some of that money to upgrade your car to get ready to handle the extra power. i.e. get a street/strip clutch and flywheel, racing brake pads, and slotted rotors (or a big brake kit if you really want to stop). Get some suspension stuff done like lowering springs and sway and strut bars. And stuff like exhaust and high flow cats will help you now with a NA car but they will help even more then once you go to turbo your car.
A good way to mod your car is from the bottom up, so Tires, Suspension, Brakes, Exhaust, Transmission work, Then the turbo.

That’s the way that I'm going, and then after I get all that stuff, there will be better and more reliable turbo kits out, and they will have worked out all the bugs.
Old 09-20-2005 | 10:39 PM
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The stock breaks are good enough. Definitely no need for slotted rotors except for looks. flywheel all the way. I wish i could get one, but my car is a lease.
Old 09-20-2005 | 10:42 PM
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I suggest getting a flywheel, revi, ram air duct, high flow cat and exhaust. That would give you some decent gains for n/a.

I would wait til more fi options are avaiable before settling for the greddy turbo.
Old 09-20-2005 | 11:15 PM
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The stock breaks are good enough. Definitely no need for slotted rotors except for looks. flywheel all the way. I wish i could get one, but my car is a lease.
The stock brakes are good for daily driving and some racing around. But trust me after 30 minuets of hard braking from high speeds; the brake pads start to go out.

And slotted disk do help. One of the guys that I know has a Honda civic that has about 400 whp and he was in the San Jose that they just had and he has a big brake kit, but he got in a small crash and bent his front right rim and scratched the rotor so he had to put some non drilled or slotted disks on, and the heat got so great because the heat couldn’t escape, and his brakes caught on fire, and he almost slammed into the wall




you can see that he doesn't have his front drilled rotors


but you can see he does still have his drilled rear rotors
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I guess what my point is, for me

60-0 time > 0-60 time

If I'm going to be putting a lot of money into my car, I want to protect my investment.

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Old 09-21-2005 | 12:26 AM
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I think it really depends on your priorities. Like you said there is a $ concern here. A lot of posters can say just wait & get the PTP or SFR kits, etc. (Not pointing anyone out). It's easy to say you want something, but when you have to actually pay the money for it, it's a different story. When I was calling out SSR/SFR for the pricing on their kit (at the time in excess of $7K) there were some people saying I had an axe to grind, etc. I didn't, I just know how hard it is for probably 90% of this board to buy a kit that is $7K+. It really is apples & oranges. On one hand the Greddy is a good & viable street kit for $2900. If you have the cash then of course the PTP & SSR/SFR kits will be better or give more hp, they will also cost twice as much. In this world it is true that you pay for what you get. If 240-260 whp is adequate for you, or are you looking for a 350 whp monster ? Personally for me this is my everyday drivers car, & I rarely track the car, or go down the 1/4 mile. I was looking for an increase in everyday low/mid range, at an economical cost. No way I was spending $7,000 (on equipment alone) on a turbo kit. If you can get the kit for a great deal, then go for it, but like some of the posters above said it needs upfront tuning. No kit is plug & play. Unless you plan on tracking the car, there is no need for brake upgrades. Larger brakes don't reduce stopping distance, they reduce fade. Get a good set of tires, NA mods (that will be useable with a turbo), and determine how much you are willing to spend & go for the turbo that best fits for your style of driving & your wallet size.
Old 09-21-2005 | 11:41 AM
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like what fanman said, what is ur hp goal?
Think about that first, then decide on the turbo kit.
If you can afford other parts down the road, then go for it.
Other wise, just get NOS.
Old 09-21-2005 | 03:52 PM
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I can say I do not regret buying the Greddy kit. I would say, from my experience on here, at least 85% of fellow turbo'd rx8club members are also happy with their decision. The Greddy kit gives you an excellent/cheap kit that can be upgraded later. Mazsport now sells the interceptor, and a turbo upgrade that you can get down the road and they plan to also come out with a few other upgrades. So if the Greddy doesn't give you enough, you can always upgrade later and still spend less then the SFR kit costs.
Old 09-23-2005 | 02:20 PM
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well, i already have a b&b exhaust, k&n intake, rp short shifter and tein s-tech springs. i know there is alot more na mods i could do, but by doing those i would inversley set myself more steps farther back from my fi goals. i dont want to make my car a monster, but i do really want to get extra punch in the mid range like the greddy kit would provide and still be reliable for every day use. i found the kit for $2799 on rx7store.net, and by far is the best price i've seen, which also makes it very tempting at the moment. me and a buddy could do the installation, and i think it would be really fun, so as of now the greddy kit is looking good.
Old 09-23-2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by OfficerFarva
i found the kit for $2799 on rx7store.net, and by far is the best price i've seen, which also makes it very tempting at the moment.
Talk to thew! :D
Old 09-23-2005 | 02:47 PM
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I don't think you will regret the GReddy kit. My goals were to make the car more fun, surprise a few 350Z's (i hate these new 'sponsored links') and do better at the track, while not sacrificing drivability at all. I was really scared at first, given all the complaining that a few people have done with regards to the emanage. But my experience has been nothing but positive.

I did the install in about 10 hours on jack stands. The feeling of accomplishment and the fun of the install were part of the reason I wanted to go turbo. My eManage blue works just fine - the car feels totally stock except for that massive kick in the a$$ whenever I go into boost. There are no idle or stalling issues, even with my VTA BOV. My LTFT under boost has been at -4% for the two weeks I've had it in there. MY AFR is 10.5 across the board (conservative, I know. But that's was GReddy's goal. I'll tune it after driving a few more weeks)

If you do it, I highly recommend getting an AFR gage permanently installed to keep an eye on things.

One 8 owner who drove my car said his NA 8 felt totally pathetic after driving mine - and I am only running 5.5 psi! :D He also said there were absolutely no issues with drivability.

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Old 09-23-2005 | 03:32 PM
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I vote do it if your prepared to learn a few things in the process. Some things work and some things dont. You'll just have to play with it a bit like I'm doing now.

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Old 09-23-2005 | 03:49 PM
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hopefully i will be getting the kit smtime before december...i really hope it could be before november too! anyway, i hope to get it soon. since mad dog said his emanage is working fine, i'll give it a fair chance instead of going wth the ultimate or interceptor. I hope to get the same positive and fun results as you guys, and if not i'll try not to bitch as much as soe of the other peole
Old 09-24-2005 | 12:58 AM
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what gauge setup does any1 reccomend? i found some good defi gauges on fasterthanthem.com, but jw if any1 has sum suggestions, thanks.
Old 09-24-2005 | 01:11 AM
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If you are gettin defi gauges to match the stock gauge cluster, make sure you they are "defi bf" gauges, because they have quite a few lines.
Old 09-24-2005 | 10:11 AM
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I just have all the sensors running to the Profec e-01. I didn't want a big ole' gauge pod.


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Old 09-24-2005 | 11:22 AM
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but that thing is ugly...
Old 09-24-2005 | 11:32 AM
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well, i know the d gauges are mechanical, but i found them for really cheap. Any1 know any bad things about the d-gauges?
Old 09-24-2005 | 01:20 PM
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I think the E-01 looks neat in the car running the graph with the boost, AFR, and RPM. But that's just me


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