The Basics;

This turbo system is both Cobb AP and Adaptronic compatible. Biggest difference is where we put the MAF sensor location. Cobb AP will require extending the the OEM wiring upfront near the front, adaptronic may not.

Battery relocation is not required, a little bit smaller battery( not a mini is required however). If one does have their battery relocated, we can do the normal greddy style intercooler piping through the passenger side next to the radiator.

This system does not require the removal of the OMP, a sohn adapter will also work. The turbo system will fit both LHD, and RHD models, both 4/6port and automatic cars. It will also fit S2 Rx-8s, in which an adaptronic ECU is a must. We are currently building a kit for an S2 car also.

The intercooler core is a Garrett unit. We include vibrant couplers and T bolt clamps for the IC piping. We hardline all the oil/coolant feed and return lines for the turbo. We also hardline the turbo inlet duct, so there is no chance of any rubber components melting. The wastegate is a tial MVS, that is dumped to the atmosphere. If one desires at extra cost we can reroute with a flex section. We also supply a flex section for one to weld into their midpipe at no extra cost. The current downpipe is too short for a flex section.

The standard turbo configuration is a journal bearing water cooled CompTurbo Billet 58mm turbo( with a 360 thrust bearing). Turbine section is the same size as a Gt35R, and uses a Tial .82 or 1.03 turbine housing. We can also do a billet 61mm compressor if desired, or a GT30/GTX30/GT35R/GTX35R at additional cost.

We do modify the OEM( core required) motor mount bracket, and motor mount. We are working on an additional upper support( like OEM, just 2 piece). There is 1/2" clearance on the test vehicles we have done in house for turbine housing to firewall/frame clearance.

We would advise one of our inconel turbine housing heatshields for the turbine housing as it is close to the intake manifold. We are also working on a smaller OMP heat shield.

 

Thanks for posting.

Here is a greddy kit for comparison purposes:





But I have one huge concern about heat with the turbo being so close the the manifold and oil pan.... How do others feel. Does Turblown plan on offering heat shielding options?

What about integrating heat shielding into the top of the motor mount?

Also, can someone post some flow maps for said turbos?

Thanks!

Good to see a large low mount...

Can we get some more pics? Also pics of manifold if possible?

Really not a fan of the coldside piping IMO

 

Looks good, does it require any modification of the crash bar?

 

I completely agree with stinksause, I know you guys have a new cool thermo camera. Did you see much heat increase in the irons? I know the housing should be alright because they can dissipate the heat more but I would be worried about the irons absorbing that heat.

Also if you have any data on oil temps that would be helpful.

Thanks,
Jeremy

 

looks really nice!

 

Looks really nice. Good work!

P.S. I would bet it's a one oil line and one water line.

 

yes!!! im getting this!!

 

I cant wait for pics of my set up. You guys are doing a none standard turbo for me correct? I am looking forward to the pics of my heat shield set up as well.

 

in the words of some spanish speaking fellow I heard while in the city a few weeks ago : ooooo mamacita!

 

Lol, agreed!

Dammmmmn, that low mount looks sexy!

 

What will the price be on the "short" kit minus the intake piping for those who want to re-use their Greddy ones or fab their own ?

 

The intake piping on this kit is of a different size then the greddy one.

 

Can still be re-used

 

Facebook response to same question... "Turblown Engineering Short kit is $3500; modified motor mount bracket, turbo manifold, turbo, downpipe, wastegate, dumptube, vband clamps for inlet and outlet on tial turbine housings, and the turbo inlet duct( welded to compressor cover)."

 

Crash bar doesn't require any modifications, the intake actually sits on top of it. There are two things that require modification. 1) the intake hole needs to be widened, about double to fit both the intercooler piping and intake IF someone wants the stock battery location. 2) the front subframe's rear brace will not fit as-is. It would require some trimming, and at best a small brace added to the cut out section. The wastegate and dump tube are directly in its way. I tried to get away around it, but so far its not working.

Stinksause what do you not like about the cold side piping? Are you talking about the intercooler pipe that is along side the intake( one that mates to the welded U bend on the intercooler?) If so, as I mentioned that is the optionally intercooler routing to retain the stock battery relocation, we will mimic the greddy intercooler piping if one wants to relocate their battery.

I don't feel there will be a problem with heat for the oil pan, or the motor mount unless one is road course racing. There is a lot of airflow in the area, and its straight open below the manifold. We do offer the standard turbine housing enclosure for the intake manifold, and working on several other options.

Comp turbo won't release the flow maps unfortunately. They claim the airflow is 20% more than the standard cast wheel of same dimensions. We put a similar turbo on a 3rd gen a few weeks ago and fuel consumption mirrored CompTurbos claims.

We do off a short version as someone else pointed out that can be mated to the greddy intake, intercooler plumbing and intercooler. We offer it with and without the oil/cooland feed and return lines if someone wants to make those themselves and save a few bucks. This is $3500 with the coolant lines. One would just an adapter coupler to mate to the greddy intake( ours is 3").

 

why so much pipe work?

 

to retain factory battery location.

 

Are they staying dump to atmosphere? I wouldn't appreciate the wastegate dump like that..other than that..looks like a nice well thought out system. Some interesting "Macgyvering" in some areas......can't wait to see some data

 

I have been facebook stalking this and loving everything you are saying.. I will probably swap this in place of my greddy setup. Absolutely lovin it! Keep up the good work.
Can we get some close ups of all the oil/coolant hard lines? Most interested in the oil return. Looks nice!

 

so you cant do similiar routing of intercooler piping as the greddy AND retain the battery location?

And is there and option to re-circulate the wastegate?

 

Holy charge pipe, batman!

Turblown, you guys just keep getting fresher and fresher!

 

I think they changed it up to be able to run the Sohn adapter.
He said they offer flex pipe that can be tied into your midpipe. Downpipe is too short.

 

1. Although, not a problem with Adaptronic, with Cobb AP, the length of the piping will cause a major lean spike if you are transfer from cruise to WOT quickly. I am experiencing this issue with the Cobb with the Greddy kit, and I am yet to find a way to tune it out. Your piping is longer, the issue will be exacerbated, shorter piping = less of an issue. Not that you necessarily care about this as you have Adaptronics to sell. The Adaptronic is far superior to the Cobb AP, however, I am hesitant to say that at 3 times the price it is 3 times better. However, other people will have a different "compromise thresholds."

2. What's up with that 180 degree bend before the inter-cooler? I understand that the piping could not be fit due to diameter and battery akin to the Greddy kit ... Could you show us the non battery version?

3. Just general amount of bends.

The greddy piping is smaller diameter, so they were able to get it to fit in better locations.

One huge improvement over the Greddy kit is the outlet of the turbo itself. The 90 degree angle is absolutely horrendous, and I applaud you for improving on that by leaps and bounds.

That being said, I feel that there are a lot of sections that can be smoothed out. Getting the batter out of the way will also help tremendously no doubt.

I can also see and understand that a lot of compromises had to be made in order to fit this piping.

I think that the larger diameter of the pipes will overcome the length. However, if the Greddy did not have the 90 degree bend right on the outlet of the turbo, it would be very difficult for me to decide which design I like better. Nonetheless, with that 90 degree bend there, it is Turblown, hands down!

I have not discussed the exhaust manifold yet, as I would really like to see a picture, but I am pretty sure almost anything that is welded together will be superior to the Greddy.

I cannot speak for other members, but I am looking for specifically a road racing application. Cooling will need to be upgraded, no doubt, but I hope that if you are road racing, you know how to do some modifications DIY.

I think road racing is really the only place where you would deal with the issues of a low mount vs a top mount. Why? Weight distribution. Another reason is heat. However, you are solving some issues and at the same time, making others.

However, with this set-up I will also be worried about cooking the rear iron. Oddly enough, it is made out of iron, and iron conducts heat REALLY well. The rear iron gets cooled last in terms of how coolant flows through the motor. It also has a transmission bolted to the other side of it containing the heat. This heat will be conducted to the side seals and probably help with side seal wear, warping and a bunch of other nasty things.

Nonetheless, I am reserving judgement until after the heat shielding is revealed. I hope that the heat shielding correctly addresses the three areas:

LIM
oil pan
rear iron

Also, I am a bit concerned about the rubber cover for the maintenance port, having that fail will not be fun.

Still ... Good job! This is not something I could have come up with myself. My hat is still off to you guys at Turblown.

 

Me likely. So tempted...

 

Not convinced with the proposed number figures